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Here's the video of the Ableton announcement for Push 2, Live 9.5, and Link:
Worth a watch if you're interested in Link, you can see how Ableton thinks of this working and see it in action.
Yes. That is also a very good way to see how it differs from MIDI Sync with regards to quantisation and workflow/start and stop behavior. You can also see me chew bubblegum at the end. The part about Link starts roughly at 42 minutes into the video. //cc @Michael_R_Grant
Fixed it for you ;-)
This is such good stuff, can't wait for Link
Looks awesome. Being able to start any app at any time, in time, gives so much more possibilities than midi syncing and no messing with clock send and receives etc
So Excited, like a big 43 year old at Christmas
Nice demonstration but is it just me or was it not THAT tight when he synced Loopy with Gadget? ;-)
I think that the loopy cymbal loop was just badly trimmed IMO. I thought the same thing, and when I got a demo of it later with a different loop, works fine.
manually?
I haven't had the chance to play with different link enabled apps by different developers running on the same device, but I think you could always make apps play at the same time by tapping the respective play button in the Audiobus connection panel and get the effect of everything playing at once.
It will make jamming with my wife, each on an iPad, so much fun.
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It's amazing that a 3rd party developer has to solve this issue on iOS instead of Apple. That must mean that Ableton could release Link for Android and Windows Mobile to leapfrog them into productive music making. I wonder how this will affect Apple's AU development? AU or VST on the desktop solves the MIDI sync issue automatically when activating plugin synths, drum machines, etc.
First rule of sync club: always blame DM-1.
^ is why I'm glad you do what you do.
So, at this point anyway, LInk doesn't support any sort of SPP or 'continue'. Correct?
If correct, sounds like a brilliant solution for loop based music or live improvised electronic music but not yet a full replacement for MIDI's (potential) full suite of sync capabilities.
omfg
I thought ableton lost it years ago, but looks like they're back on track.
go go go - los los los
This kind of thing is common:
Does this mean, if I am only on one iOS device I start ab, load in whatever apps that support link, hit go and I am ready to burn the town, (no more set it all up, midi clock blah blah)?
getting rid of the master slave relationship is such a great idea
Assuming all the apps support Link, you just need to turn it on and you're good to go.
Fuck yeah!
thx for the info
Congratulation, respect, this is a major breakthrough!
@sebastian the Vimeo url video thing is broken again...
I just updated my live 9 lite version to 9.5 and the updates the simpler is pretty amazing. Once link gets up and running, I have a feeling my entire workflow will change.
I've watched the keynote and everything was sure very impressive! One question: if, say, 3 devices are linked together, each of which have different tempos on their running apps, and everyone hits play on their device at the same time, who wins?
The filter is Cytomic's goodness too!
The chances of 3 people all hitting play at exactly the same time is minimal, but I would guess like in real life, it ends in a god awful racket and everyone blames the drummer! Lol
If they are linked they cannot have a different tempo.
So the first device to set up the link sets the tempo, in other words?
This is something that Ableton has to explain in their FAQs. I don't want to create any myths because I don't know the exact implementation.
Good demo, I understand it a lot better now and why it is different.
I have wondered about this too. To take the example to the worst scenario I can think of, What happens if one player increases tempo, while another decreases ? I guess the same thing as if that happened between members of a band. Everyone looks at each other confused, then collectively either stops playing or nominates a 'leader' and follows them.
I hope that Link just responds to the last tempo change it receives and does not try and nominate a leader for itself, that way WE as players still have complete control over who is the leader at any given time. That is what the demo in the keynote looks like is happening, they didn't however have two people trying to change tempo at exactly the same time, but then why would they, it is not a normal condition.
If as a collective you do try and change tempo in different directions at the same time then learn from your mistake and don't think that link will do ALL of your communicating for you.
@AndyPlankton. 'I guess the same thing as if that happened between members of a band. Everyone looks at each other confused, then collectively either stops playing or nominates a 'leader' and follows them.'
Nah, they all just keep smiling and try to hold the tempo back. If it is the drummer who speeds up then God only knows who can stop him/her.
But seriously, I really like the idea of no master, it really doesn't matter as long as everything chugs along in time. Unless I'm jamming with my 5y.o. daughter then I'd rather be the master or she'd be messing with the tempo for the hell of it.