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I know what you mean @monzo but either way the casting vote belongs to soundcloud IT unfortunately.
Thinking about it though, maybe this is an omen..?
Thank you so much. It's because of all the tips & tricks you (all) shared with me through your critiques of last months song that helped me shape how this one ended up. Like you suggested, I now listen to similar style stuff that's been professionally mixed to get an idea of where I should be heading. I do enjoy doing the drums so I'm glad you enjoyed them too. Cheers again.
OK, turns out was me typing in the wrong password, so my apologies to SoundCloud, on this occasion.
Have uploaded two versions for this month, the same track in different versions. The way the track as put together is quite different in that I made lots of little unrelated SunVox track and them import them into the main track to sequence.
This one is the latest instrumental version. I built a few bits in SunVox to try and work with some ideas I picked up from some recording and mixing websites mentioned by other forum members. Not sure how successful that was but it does give me a few new tools to play with.
And this is a version I tried to do a bit of warbling over. Vocals recorded straight into Cubasis using the iPad mic and chopped around from there. Plainly I have little idea how to record vocals and wasn't particularly enamoured with the result but sometimes you just have to go with an idea.
As usual, all comments gratefully received and I will do a big relisten and comment on everyone else tracks later.
Thanks for the fab review. Beginners luck! I'm sure as the months tumble by, I will find it increasingly difficult to eek out music content from this mashed brain. Again, I tip my safety pinned bowler hat to you (all) for managing to achieve this. My Pharmacist (a real one haha) said t'other day that I'm 30 odd years out of date with this dirge. I played him this years Frank Carter album to show him that there are some punk embers still flickering. That it evokes memories for you (hopefully good ones) makes me feel very good. Cheers.
Sorry, I've been meaning to ask, what mic did you get & how are you finding it? Much difference?
@Jocphone Well spank me with a nail brush! A vocal!!?!! Woo hoooo!! Excellent,& for you and what I've heard over the last months I would call that some real experimentation!:D
(No,not the spanking me with a nail brush!:D that's just a regular Saturday night...um,ok now this is getting weird!!)
Anyway...i really enjoyed both tracks.The first one towards the end made me think of "Bond" I think it's the main little melody (also the bass lends itself to the bond melody) you also had that final little wawawawawaaaaa sound you often get at the end of old spy movies.
The second one,well for me it was just great to hear you have a go with a vocal.You sang well man & You stayed true to your style by weirding it up a bit:) good on you mate.Dont worry I'm not expecting a vocal every time now but it's great to hear something a bit different every now and then (he says...to one of the main SOTMC dudes who to my tastes ALWAYS bring the "something a bit different"!!!:D )
Anyway,thanks for posting them man and great job.
This is a WIP in a three acts (Tell them you're going to tell them a joke, tell them the joke, tell them you've told them the joke.). The first one is someone sure that his girl is going to leave him. The second, perhaps years later, is the same guy wishing his girl would come back home. The third is a short piece of information only available to us, the audience, explaining what happened to her and why she won't ever be back.
@Jocphone If you spank LostBoy85 with a nail brush then I will take a heavy duty bass broom. Great track sir. Very clever. You've managed to tease out a melody from all the lovely juddery, jaggedy elements. Mutant Jazz Rock!
The deep bass is scrumptious & I particularly like the echo you've put on parts of your vocal. Indeed, without any effects applied it sounds like you have a very good singing voice. It certainly added another texture over the instrumental version & it's definitely a song.
To marry all these aspects together must take a vivid imagination. Keep imagining because I wholeheartedly enjoyed these, your songs.
@JohnnyGoodyear great story and feel. Rock opera in the making. Which one's Pink? I think it is great. Could listen to an album.
@Jocphone both takes are cool. Dig the vocal elements in the second track. Both work for me.
@Jocophone: I preferred the second version, although the style is not really my bag.
@JohnnyGoodyear: Nice laid back vibe. Reminds me a little of Lou Reid in places
@LostBoy85 and @Bluepunk, I know people fall into roles in a forum like this. I didn't realise I was going to be the Cynthia Payne round here. Oh well 'rolls up sleeves..'
@LostBoy85 great comments. I hadn't noticed the Bond connection but I see it now you've mentioned it, probably the brass stabs give it that flavour. And thanks for the thoughts on my attempts at singing. I'm quite self conscious about it and have to resist running away instead so it's a great relief to hear that it wasn't a total disaster.
@Bluepunk thanks, it means a lot when you take the time to discuss someone else's submission and I was a bit cheeky in asking people to listen twice. The fact that you enjoyed the tracks as well is the "cherry on an ironing board!" for me.
Thanks rkmonkey appreciate the encouragement.
And thanks @AlterEgo_UK I understand that. Though, to be honest, I think I've mislaid my bag some time ago and I'm not sure I could give name to a kind of music that I like anymore. Thanks for listening.
Very good as usual, and I like the one with vocals best. The rhythm is a stroke of genius - no idea what's been used or going on (you say you used SunVox but you could have been prodding a giraffe for all I can tell) - sounds like the whole moon in there, but it really works and underpins the whole track in good honest rickety fashion. Nice melody too, and the vocals complement the track perfectly. Pure creative joy, and I bet you had fun doing it.
I really like the first section - very strong vocal tune with an interesting wibbly effect on them. Nice and clear even with the wibble. Didn't feel the join between first and second quite worked - felt it needed fading from the phasery first bit into clean piano bit more gradually. Preferred the first part, but 'clean' piano section well played. I liked the noises coming in at the end (well I would, wouldn't i) and think it would have been nice to bring some weirdness into the main piano section.
Good track though, you and @jocphone are making me think I need to brush up on my singing...
Thanks for the notes. I have (me, me, me) been all over the place these past few weeks. Not in any bad way, but creatively. I've been down this road before and it's normally a good sign. All kinds of things fighting for their spot in the day to day duties. I feel a little guilty as regards this submission for SOTMC because I like a lot of what's going on (or the thoughts behind it) but this is no more than about 20% done, BUT it wouldn't have made it this far, even with the rusty joints/connections between pieces if it HADN'T been for SOTMC. So, you poor folks are somewhat my procrastination buddies/conscience this month and in the longer term I hope/think I'll be grateful for that.
As for singing, with honorable exceptions, it needs to be done and we have to look no father than the example of Our Fearless Leader to see that some concentrated steady effort goes a long way....
It has long been a bitter irritation of mine that he got to Perfect Day first
It always surprises me, how deeply some people can understand the motivations behind a piece of work. You seem to have a particular knack for this monzo and that is why it is always a pleasure to hear your feedback.
I do think that I am getting into my stride a bit, both with SunVox and in reaching a place where the noises I am playing with are starting to make sense. I had more ambitious plans for the vocals but the month turned into an unholy shitstorm again, which tends to sap the creative will a little. Overall though I think I gained from doing this so thanks for the encouragement.
Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you liked the guitar. I'm not much of a player, but I love the qualities some real instruments can bring to the digital realm.
Thanks as always! I see what you are saying with the feet squeaks killing the chill. I left it in because I am at the point where I don't want things to sound too polished and digital.
@JohnnyGoodyear I'm glad it lived up to your expectations. It's funny, that's the second time my stuff as gotten a Police reference. That's not a bad thing, I really like the Police, but that is probably the last place I would look to when purposely finding inspiration. I guess it's the years of listening to the police as a kid in the backseat of my parents cars.
Having taken the first steps it now seems a lot less daunting so if you have the slightest yearning to add your built-in noisemaker to the mix, just do it.
The vocal adds so much to the piece, without it it's actually hard for the track to hold my interest because of the chaotic structure and the atonal nature of the sounds, but with the vocal there is that essential element of human interest that makes me want to listen. You definitely shouldn't feel self-conscious about your voice, it's great.
And yes I'll update the first page as soon as I can, hopefully today
The transitions are a little bit jarring, when the piano comes in it sounds a little sudden, as does the section at the end, I think that could be fixed with a little more thought in the arrangement, but it's really good to see that you are adding more parts to your songs. I also like the blend of noises bookending the start and finish contrasting with the softer music in the middle. I also felt that musically this is one of the strongest entries you have made to date.
Vocals are excellent as usual. For me this is one of my all-time favourite SOTMC entries so far. You're becoming a very good (and very interesting) songwriter IMO.
To me the choice of vocals or not is never cut and dried. I listen to mainly music with vocals/singing but do think the music has to stand up for itself and couldn't listen to a great singer if their music was awful. My own vocal effort here was far from great. I didn't get to spend half the time I wanted to on the vocals but I do enjoy singing and can nearly hold a tune, when concentrating, so that's probably half the battle.
Even so, it is heart warming to hear such positive comments from everyone on my first public solo outing especially considering the fear that preceded it and because the comments come from people I have learned to trust on this forum/sotmc.
All downhill from here..
thanks for the updating, will try to get round to some more listening/commenting tonight
Part 1. Top marks for how you gently built up the vocal dynamics to lovely harmonies. Your tone & style slotted in perfectly above that wistful, wonderful underbelly.
Part 2. You kept me guessing.....what's next? Answer....a cwtchy, comforting song that is good enough to have been released on its own. Gorgeous piano, softened bass & tight, steady cross sticking beat to allow the music to flourish. Your vocal sang us the story very well & you blended all these perfectly in the mix. I particularly liked the chorus both in sound & feel. Those chords were made to be played next to each other.
Part 3. Oh shite..........she's gunna die!
Marvellous stuff & I look forward to the sequel.
No need to worry monzo, have spent enough years railing against technique and uniformity that I don't think I will suddenly get my head turned by a few tips on how to boost certain frequencies etc.. And there is plenty more experimentation to come, I don't settle that easily.
Yeah browsing the forum's a bit if a chore on a phone now, too much vertical padding and increased leading = more scrolling.
I have a rule about software updates/improvements; give it a month. Suspect we will not want our toys taken back, but will always feel nostalgic for the somehow simpler days of clumsy little bits of mark-up etc.
Forum-wise, if this fine institution continues*, I have also found this kind of 'upgrade' to lead to a Before and After feeling ("You kids and all your cyrillic smileys, back in the day we usta hafta to communicate with the Queen's English and nothing else...").
Still miss the plus one button however.
*For the record this is taken already....