Kirnu cream in review

JohnnyGoodyear

@Wally said:
I'm only a betatesting user so I dont know why Cream isnt showing in Apple store search ,
But the Audiobus FB page link worked for me :
http://ift.tt/1JsG5OK
Doesnt this work for you ?

I know how hard the dev has worked on this . In fact I've realised since I posted about " his 9 months hard work " , that was ONLY since we started betatesting . Goodness knows how much longer he spent coding the alpha ?!
He has been very responsive to suggestions to make Cream the best possible , and there is much more to be implemented .

There are Youtube tutorials for Cream VST & even a PC Demo version on Kirnu site.
There is also a manual , although I admit non native English makes it a little confusing .

I hereby apologise to Arto & new users that I never quite found the time to finish Tutorials , Manual rewrites or Videos that I may have optimistically hoped to do . I'm still embroiled in learning a graphics app to complete a planned graphic tutorial on the ChordMem slots which I outlined in boring words earlier , & I dont yet have necessary video kit or skills .
I have even more admiration for single handed devs who manage all of this in addition to their coding ( & maybe dayjob & family ) .

I am here to help as best I can though . Cream has a unique feature set missing in our IOS toolbox , it is a hybrid of other arp & mono/chord sequencers & can be a primary creative , interactive midi compositional tool . The release has not been ideal but CreamMobile is worth support for the creative benefits it brings.

@wally I am all about the polish, but when it comes to videos, simple, straightforward, step by steps, garner far more word-of-mouth return.

Show us how to and, if the app is all that, we will.

BiancaNeve

Idiots guide needed urgently. I can't get a sound out of it

[Deleted User]

In cream tap the settings wheel/star, and select as midi output network session 1, as has been said above, in thumbjam select cream/clock as midi in.
Tap a key/s

BiancaNeve

Ah ha.

Edit
It works much more as you would expect in v1.01 you can see the list of sources and destinations.

RJB

@Kirnu Thanks for getting this out for Christmas and looking forward to the update. Any chance of sneaking Link into the next update?

Carnbot

@Wally said:
Oops , seems a much earlier version has been released .
The correct version 1.01pics is shown on appstore , with better Touch UI , well implemented midilearn functions , Panic button , ALL button , numeric Knob values & saveable midi connections ;
another few months of improvements & fixes are DONE & only an update away , on the positive.

Midi Connection problems :
Have you enabled " Connect Midi Devices automatically" in Settings / Settings
(top right corner CogWheel ) . This will add any active virtual/external midi port to Midi Input/Output lists in Settings .
I have Virtual synths Animoog, Addictive & Sunrizer all working fine here, as well as my usual @15 external midiports .
Remember to set each Tracks MidiOutput channel to match receiving synth .

Also as I mentioned previously Track Note Range is important. It is the ( editable) range of INPUT notes each Track will respond to . Cream defaults to small seperate keyboard zones for each track to simplify INTernal Keyboard use , so check you are not playing outside that zone or the engine will not play . (INPUT )Playable range is C2 -C8 . C1-C2 is used for Pattern changes from keyboard so dont play too low on keyboard ." Base" , next to NoteRange in TopLeft Corner can be used to lower or higher the OUTPUT range of the engine .

Hi Wally, I have the settings enabled but never get anything in the list except internal and network session 1. Perhaps you are on a newer version where this is fixed?
I can still connect to other apps if I do it from the external synth but would be good to select from Cream.

Starting to like this now! the first 10 minutes or so is not easy. Needs time wth red wine The multitrack is the killer feature here over SPA so will get the in app purchase.....not sure about the built in synth yet. Like midisteps this would be great with au.

Audiojunkie

@Kirnu said:
Just to inform you about Cream Mobile release: The initial version had incorrect binary from 6 months ago. v1.01 will be released soon with correct binary. My bad

I wonder how the old version works this good even though we have fixed many, many bugs after that

-Arto
Kirnu Interactive

Hey Arto, any chance for an iPhone version for us iPhone plus users?

Wally

I am using the same paid for, incorrect release version from Appstore , and it was working fine when last I wrote I swear , but I've since had @Littlewoodg 's crash scenario , so after a delete and install maybe it's better for the moment to leave " Connect midi devices automatically " off .
Loading Cream last , after any virtual synths & external midi devices , seems to have them all appear correctly in Midi Input/Output lists in Settings & work correctly with @crzycrs method of using Network Settings for Cream Output port & select Cream as input in virtual synth .

I hope this thread doesnt turn into a long bug report, unnecessary of course because they're already fixed & much improved in the next release , but In the interests of solidarity in a holding pattern until then , I should warn users of a graphics issue with Step On/Off
( orange dots under lanes ) buggy behaviour on QuickEdit page . It doesnt appear you've turned them off , but goto Mainpage & they are off , go back to QuickEdit & NOW they are off .

audiblevideo

@studs1966 said:
It's a job for TSTR me thinks?

Doug is a self confessed Midiot (his words)

Seangarland

@audiblevideo said:

@studs1966 said:
It's a job for TSTR me thinks?

Doug is a self confessed Midiot (his words)

Yeah, with all due respect to Doug, I think this app requires a Let's Play from Tim Webb or maybe Jakob Haq. Doug can tickle the ivories with the best of them, but once you start getting into MIDI and "under-the-hood" settings, things occasionally go awry for Doug.

Kaikoo

Doug does not like complicated matters, except the SB Obscurium!

RUST( i )K

Well if the wrong app is released --- I think it is a NO BRAINER that ALL OF US who bought it to support it right out of the gate deserve FREE FULL UPGRADES?

That is fair and very real world customer support in my opinion.

We obviously took the leap within the first 12 hours of release. That shows support and trust on our halves.

Carnbot

A delete and reinstall fixed my midi settings issues.

Littlewoodg

@Carnbot said:
A delete and reinstall fixed my midi settings issues.

Same here, and also making sure a certain synth wasnt lurking unseen in the background (love the synth, don't want to impune it's good name)

JohnnyGoodyear

@Seangarland said:

@audiblevideo said:

@studs1966 said:
It's a job for TSTR me thinks?

Doug is a self confessed Midiot (his words)

Yeah, with all due respect to Doug, I think this app requires a Let's Play from Tim Webb or maybe Jakob Haq. Doug can tickle the ivories with the best of them, but once you start getting into MIDI and "under-the-hood" settings, things occasionally go awry for Doug.

Actually I think that it's about time we saw that boffin Colin up front and center...

Kirnu

Special Christmas offer to all Cream Mobile owners:
Contact us and you'll get access to latest TestFlight version. This is the same version which is now included in the 1.01 version.

support at kirnuarp dot com

• Arto Vaarala
  Kirnu Interactive

Kirnu

@Kaikoo said:
Hi there,

Kirnu Cream people, somebody come out to say a word, why there is no international app purchase? Few people asked you many times? You are really on silent side?
I wonder what is your customers services?

Well, I think our customer service is best it can be. Sometimes I have other things to do and don't have time to read all forum threads.

I'll enable the app in all countries when the next version is released.

-Arto

Kirnu

@Audiojunkie said:

@Kirnu said:
Just to inform you about Cream Mobile release: The initial version had incorrect binary from 6 months ago. v1.01 will be released soon with correct binary. My bad

I wonder how the old version works this good even though we have fixed many, many bugs after that

-Arto
Kirnu Interactive

Hey Arto, any chance for an iPhone version for us iPhone plus users?

I have never used iPhone plus so I can't say for sure but I think the UI needs at least iPad screen.
If someone have good ideas how to fit the UI to smaller screen please let me know.

-Arto

Carnbot

@Kirnu said:

Hi Arto, not sure if mentioned yet but any plans for Link support? Great app btw, look forward to the update.

Tritonman

Any newbies finding love for this yet?

BiancaNeve

Having taken advantage of the offer above to get the TestFlight version I'm liking it a lot better thanks.

pierre

Can't find the support at kirnuarp.com.

BiancaNeve

Replace the at with @ and the dot with . It then becomes their email addy......

pierre

Thanks !

JohnnyGoodyear

@Kirnu said:
Special Christmas offer to all Cream Mobile owners:
Contact us and you'll get access to latest TestFlight version. This is the same version which is now included in the 1.01 version.

support at kirnuarp dot com

• Arto Vaarala
  Kirnu Interactive

Hello Arto:

Thanks for the offer, intelligent and kind I like your app, think it offers much and am looking forward to the next version. No terrible hurry as there's some kind of pagan festival taking up all the time right now. When do you hope/expect the 'corrected' version to get propagated? (If it's going to be ages and ages I will follow up on the Testflight offer etc .

Thanks.

Littlewoodg

@Kirnu said:
Special Christmas offer to all Cream Mobile owners:
Contact us and you'll get access to latest TestFlight version. This is the same version which is now included in the 1.01 version.

support at kirnuarp dot com

• Arto Vaarala
  Kirnu Interactive

Availed myself of this offer, as @JohnnyGoodyear put it so well, an offer both intelligent and kind...

Bang boom pow it works beautifully (in other words exactly how I wanted it too: point midi notes and clock to Cream from MTS, Cream points its midi magic at Addictive synth, AB flows Creamed, Addictive, audio back into MTS.).

Will test: When Cream and Addictive are set in separate AB paths into MTS, I'll get Cream's own drum loops and synth on a separate audio track into MTS...Edit: yep, dead sexy and shit-hot.

Now: Too giddy with the magic to test the possibilities of all four tracks at once.

gsm909

Can the horrible orange/blue iPad skin be swapped for the much more pleasant silver skin of the VST version?

JohnnyGoodyear

@gsm909 said:
Can the horrible orange/blue iPad skin be swapped for the much more pleasant silver skin of the VST version?

Thinking about this very thing last night (albeit to do with Mister Rim and his piano roll design @WaveMachineLabs): How much of what we feel and also achieve is connected to the look 'n' feel rather than the explicit functionality? How much do I enjoy driving my car because of the way it looks beyond just its capabilities beneath hood?

RJB

To everyone who purchase Cream and were disappointed please do yourself a favor and take up the developers' offer of downloading the TestFlight version. Works right out of the box and it's a lot of fun. Merry Christmas to all!!

Kirnu

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@Kirnu said:
Special Christmas offer to all Cream Mobile owners:
Contact us and you'll get access to latest TestFlight version. This is the same version which is now included in the 1.01 version.

support at kirnuarp dot com

• Arto Vaarala
  Kirnu Interactive

Hello Arto:

Thanks for the offer, intelligent and kind I like your app, think it offers much and am looking forward to the next version. No terrible hurry as there's some kind of pagan festival taking up all the time right now. When do you hope/expect the 'corrected' version to get propagated? (If it's going to be ages and ages I will follow up on the Testflight offer etc .

Thanks.

Thanks for your kind words.
The new version status is currently 'waiting for review' and because it's Christmas time and all it could take longer than normally to get the new version approved.

-Arto