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So can anyone who bought it tell me if there's MIDI in for non Arturia controllers?
I dunno it looks pretty sweet so far and nothing at wrong with iap's to support development ect. Plus it comes loaded for bear with kits already and they are indeed tweakable! The song perform options are very capable also. I can not imagine anyone being seriously disappointed actually.
'Aflac!'....... does it have side chain?
It has background audio correct?
I mainly use acoustic drums, apart from electronic kick and hats sometimes. I only need one drum machine to get what I need. When using Attack I never got a sense of any flow while making beats with it and have not had any real success when trying to sync it or use MIDI with it. I liked the interface for iElectribe, much more of a flow, but the sounds were too limited, particularly on the acoustic side.
iSpark looks like an excellent combination of the two, as I only have 16GB I have deleted the other 2, If I had more space I would probably keep all 3.
Which is absolutely fair,don't you think so?It's TEN bucks and Rolf was working on it for two years (as someone wrote here).Minus 30% to apple and an unknown amount to Arturia
(of course it's also possible that he got a one time payment,who knows...)
To me it looks like there are enough options to shape the sound,it's mainly a drum machine and not a synthesis monster like SMP.Plus you can use your own samples.
You are really hard to satisfy sometimes
Midi in for notes but I can't control anything else as far as I can see
anybody want to confirm that rumor I didn't start yet about how good the side chain is?
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Sometimes Only?
Everything can allways be improved, that's the way of the ever-changing world.
Once we stop seeing ways to improve things we might as well give up completely
Trying hard to resist but every time I watch another tutorial on ispark I feel like the Borg are making resistance futile. It does look like this is highly capable on so many levels in fact. The pad options look real nice for effects
I agree, but damning things with faint praise can also take the air out of the room somewhat. As always it's a balance between constructive criticism and encouragement. I think in this case the developer has earned the right to be encouraged etc.
Agreed.It's pretty much complete as it is now and a lot of bang for buck.But i admit Samus suggestions always belong to best,well put and detailed description.Suggesting improvements is one thing though but wanting more features (at launch day) a totally different story.As we all know there is not really a good way on iOS to develop further/implement new fearures AND earn some extra money for all the development time.So,who's gonna pay Rolf then?i doubt Arturia is open for a lot of new features (at this point) and that's absolutely fine i think.I also doubt they would add new fearures via IAP (only more kits).But @Samu ,please don't hesitate to move on with suggestions etc.All good stuff.I just think we should be more realistic with our expectations sometimes
definitely would like some sample editing like trimming. Other than that it's quite capable.
The video from soundest room showed trimming I think already there.
They did what iMaschine should've been from the start.
Full featured drum machine with SYNTH.
Fully integrated controller.
Cross compatibility between desktop and iOS.
Do you want more?
ACP, Recording, etc
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for 9 freaking bucks.
Great automation per sample options as well! Woot!
Hadn't it been for the downpour of drum machines in recent times....
Yes the automation is great, really easy to record and edit.
It does what it does really well, just a pity no midi in for the knobs or tone keyboard. Only midi in for the pads I think.
Yepp, I've got nothing against iSpark.
Been messing around with it for the last 3 hours or so until my iPad battery ran out.
All praise got to Rolf @nlog & Arturia for bringing it to the iPad.
I guess the 'expectation bar' was set maybe a bit too high considering how amazing iSem and Nave are and what we have available for drum-synthesis on iOS in the likes of Attack, Stroke Machine, SeekBeats Elastic Drums etc.
It has to be said that the UI in iSpark is the cleanest of them all and looks really nice.
The sample-editing capabilities have been discussed to death here at the forums so all the features that most of us look for have been brought up already but not many have materialised in the apps we have today but the situation is improving slowly but it's improving.
Once the user-manual for iSpark hits the Arturia web I will read it thru more than once to see if I missed something.
Some things are just too hard to figure out without a manual with some in-depth info (how to set the threshold/velocoty levels for sample-switching as there are upto 6 layers per pad).
And how to export audio, since the Project export option saves a project file.
Sooner or later I will have a complete picture of what the iPad version of Spark is capable of
...and it is an Intro price
It's possible to set the start and endpoint for playback but it won't be 'trimmed away' from the recorded-sample meaning if there is a lot of 'dead space' it can't be removed.
The current 'set playback location with markers' is handy for playing segments from a sample. (If there was a 'filepicker/open in...' for the recorded sample it would have been possible to send the sample to another app for further editing and then back again).
I'll mess around more to see if there are other work-arounds
You can export the song from the sequencer page. It exports to the iTunes folder.
It seems to work ok but looks like a bug, when I press export it just keeps repeating quickly through the sequencer endlessly, not sure if I'm doing it right. But a recording does appear in the iTunes folder.
For me all that ends up in the iTunes folder is a Spark (*.ispk) project file and the 'Recorded' samples are in the 'Recordings' folder. I'll experiment further...
Sooner or later, we'll all work out how it all works
I've got most of the drum machines out there and I'll be sure to be adding this. Let's just say It tickles my fancy!
I think you've used the export from the menu browser top left. There's also an export button on the sequencer page, did you try that?
Thanks! Works better.
Sometimes I'm 'blind' and my logic fails. 'Export' & 'Delete' soooo close to each other
Quite funny that 'export' button creates the file instantly before the dialogue even pops up asking me what to do with it? (My 'logic' would create the file after choosing what to do avoiding filling up the iPad).
The 'Delete' button however has a menu that stays up and waits for me to make a selection on what to do.
Another 'Logic Fail' for me is how to change the 'type' (Analog / Sample) of a pad without having to load an 'instrument'? (So in order to replace a sound on a pad using 'analog' with a custom sample I first need to load an instrument that uses sample as base and then replace the instruments sample with my own, there seems to be no 'clear/reset/init pad'?!).
Hopefully the iSpark manual will be available for download soon.
Manual is here I am told.
https://www.arturia.com/products/ipad-synths/ispark/overview
@ Samu:
Re manuals I'll check with the Arturia guys.
Re sound editing: iSpark is missing the modular (in fact Spark is a modular synth!) UI which has been introduced in Spark 2. We skipped it for timing reasons. But the idea is to deliver that later.
Too buys now to follow up all the other aspects. Hope to keep up later.
Hey that'd be awesome if it got the modular synth aspects later on. Good work @nlog
I guess no midi learn is to get people to buy the SparkLE or is that something that might be added too?
Ten? How do you get that number?! Don't you mean eight? Let me explain:
Shouldn't we all be buying iTunes cards at 20% discounts?! These offers are not rare on US cards, at least.
That would make iSpark eight bucks. I like to think of it as paying the developer 75% instead of 66%, because they still get their full amount.
In iSpark's case with IAPs, the "regular" price is $26 for the whole kit and kaboodle, but 20% off is $21 with a discount ($20.80, to be exact). I bought my Yamaha RX-
IAPs are actually where these discount iTunes cards really shine. While many apps go on sale, some IAPs never go on sale. It's definitely worth looking for these cards, especially when you think about the total you've spent on apps and IAPs.
Finally, I'm a huge Apple fanboi, but let me tell you all something, Apple doesn't give a crap about the iOS music ecosystem. Sure, they'll port Novation Launchpad to Garageband (oversimplified, I know), but they don't care if MIDI works, or if we can bus some sound through some other effect. Maybe a little, but not much.
It's the developers who care. This ecosystem is small enough that we personally interact with developers quite a lot, and we know their realities. I appreciate that musicians, historically have been completely raped by corporations at all level. iOS is not like that. If you think of even the most crazy "company" decisions discussed on this board, at the end of the day, we're often talking about one individual, a brave developer who is likely struggling to pay his or her bills. The products of these individuals would exceed the expectations of any sane musician even just 5 years ago.
I get that many musicians are struggling to make ends meet. This diatribe is not directed at you.
To those of us with disposable incomes (e.g. able to afford starbucks): my first drum machine, a Yamaha RX-11 cost me $275 in 1986. Today, it's one of 30 or so kits in Funkbox. We are getting incredible value from these developers. Don't buy something if you don't need it. Seriously. But there's no need to quibble about beer money over the value of these apps. If something just doesn't fit into your workflow, there's no need for a charity buy.
But from my seat, I've enjoyed dropping 5s and 10s on hard-working developers, even if just to check out their app to see what is possible, or what other developers think an app should be.
Now, I'm going to go check out what Rolf thinks a drum machine should be. My guess is that I'll be sticking with Patterning and Different Drummer right now for personal reasons. But I hope Rolf keeps coding, and maybe his next app will be more aligned with my own workflow.
Jeez, I sound like a moralizing asshole, sorry.