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Hey, @LostBoy85: nice song, specially because of your performance. You're really a good singer: nice tone, perfectly in tune and with a good reach. The lyrics are also good, and the result is a song that will stay on my playlist. Congratulations to you, and also to @marcel for the backing track and co-authorship: this is by far my favourite entry this month.
@Igneous1
Thanks for your comment, remixing is always challenging, I think vocals, but also production needs to be modified, will see what's bring version 2
@LostBoy85
I would recommend DRC synth to replace your strings...Just test it
I see your point, and I must admit that I agree, but my problem actually is mainly about the chorus, not vocals...OMO there's still too much notes on the chorus, I've tried to hide the poorness of my chaining harmonies with lots of notes, I have to rework that part harder with silence...
As crouchie said, he'll work on new vocals based on the music, but I think I have to make some "improvements" also.
I usually hate fade out with songs, because, to me, a song has a beginning, a middle, and an end. The way you coming into the sound is the path to your mind, if you're going out just by fading out, it's like a plane pilot is running away from his own plane saying :
I can assure you that I won't fly with that company anymore !
But sometimes it's also a nice figure of speech, (even for fade in for the beginning of a track) and in this case I like it. So it is the case for your track, so I'm good with it, so no problem.
But very often it's because the producer has been lazy, OMHO, thinking "it's gonna be okay, they got my point, I'm hungry now..."
@theconnactic Ah,thanks very much mate.Thats very nice of you to say,although I think you might have been a bit generous with "perfectly in tune!"
let's just say win or lose,I left it all on the court!
@crony thanks for explaining your ideas about fades,I must admit I've never really thought about it.I just do them (often badly) because a lot of the music I listen to does it (I'm a right "follower" me!:) )
Regarding your remix.I think you might be on to something with making your music less busy in the chorus.It kinda makes sense cos Crouchies vocal is busy enough for both of you.Maybe slow and sexy like your verse music would serve the track better? Who knows? It's worth a go though right? The down side is that maybe YOU don't get to show off as much...hmm...but like I said to Marcel,whatever serves the song best is the way to go.IMO
Anyway,I'm rambling,but you guys don't need my advice I know you'll figure it out just fine and I can't wait to hear it.
@LostBoy85, really nice job on the vocals. It's an excellent tune, but I felt I needed a bit more variety, though the solos do help to break it up. Mix is very good, but I think the drums could have come up in the mix, they're a bit lost.
@crony, love that. My one complaint is that in the chorus, the "scratch" sound is a bit too hot, and eats at the vocal a bit. But love the mix overall. Brilliant sounds.
P.S.: this song's progressions are actually simpler than they sound: the verses are actually a static Gm throughout, and the chorus uses E7, D7, C7 and G7. I use a lot of intervals like 9, # 9 etc, so that's why it sounds more complex than it really is.
All the best,
Dimitri.
Is it genre specific maybe, I don't know but an interesting & important part of the song writing process. Could always give the fade treatment to both ends of the song. Off the top of my head like Hawkwind Silver Machine. I'm sure there's a wee, wee fade into the "Quo" riff part after the initial synth thing start.
Crash in & Crunch out for me but that's more because I'm a div on the technical stuff.
Don't be so modest, and you're welcome!
I think it's interesting the small pieces of information to be gleaned. 'All on the court', hmmm some kind of tennis player or other racquet-y type fellow. Maybe basketball I suppose. No muddy ruggerbugger would say anything but 'the pitch'
Basketball @JohnnyGoodyear Go Mavs!!
Put me in the game coach. Here's my inaugural submission. A tune called salt.
Already loved the beat. Oh, nice touch to include your pseudonym in the intro. There is a crackling throughout the song, like it was being played from vinyl: is that deliberate? If so, it was also very effective for achieving the overall retro feel of the song. Nice submission: simple, short and quite enjoyable. Congrats!
@theconnactic
Thanks for the feedback. The static was intentional. I ran a breakbeat chopped sample from BM2 through AB into cubasis with an effect on it for that scratchiness. Cheers!
@ma_therapie I am also simple and short. Not entirely convinced by the string sample. Maybe half a hair too short or maybe the notes are one off; not clever enough to figure it out. I would, of course, have liked some more samples (vox) sprinkled about to tell me a story. This is my weakness admittedly, or preference. I think this is a creditable first effort, but at this point in musical history it might be considered a bit generic and thus (all I'm doing here is rationalizing my own interests
) some words would make it distinctive/unique etc. What were your tools of choice on this one?
@JohnnyGoodyear I tend to agree, it is a bit basic. That was the point, but the feedback on the strings is well taken. Good use a lift there. That was my third string arrangement after scrapping the previous set last minute. I'm actually into hip hop so this will get lyrics some day. Tools: BM2 for drums, Nave, AB and Cubasis. My go to set up.
Not a hip-hopper myself ('until today' as Mrs. Goodyear always says as regards anything she feels she may be universally closing herself off to etc), but listening to it again I can very easily imagine a hip-hop-meets-Lovers-Rock declamation over this...keep at it.
If you intend to turn this one into a rap song, @ma_therapie, that clever touch of including your pseudonym makes even more sense. It's common practice in the style. Looking forward to listen to the final product. All the best!
Hey all, I've been pretty busy and not doing much iOS lately, but just working on realizing my music which seems to incorporate iOS into Ableton. Anyway, here is an all iOS constructed track that kicks off my new EP that I put together this month. It is the intro to my EP, "Do You Like the Brightness?". iOS constructed, Ableton mastered. I used a Linked fugue machine to play an 80s synth in Synthmaster, and then I noodled some iSem over it in Garageband on my Rock Band Keytar for added authenticity. I used the new Drummer mode in Garageband to construct the pummeling drums.
https://m.soundcloud.com/bvsmv/sets/do-you-like-the-brightness-ep
Thanks for listening and keep on fighting the iOS good fight.
Hello,
Ok, with new vocals from Paul and your advices I modified the track we did
The previous version for reminder :
I add much space in the mix, changed some parts, add silence...
Enjoy !
@ma_therapie
I love the production, dirty samples, dirty bass, it's a nice loop but it deserve much more work.
I'm not crazy about the sample of violin that makes a 4 notes motif, it's just out of tune to me, and it's coming very ofter in the sound, just take it off, OMHO it'll sound better.
Needs a bit of structure, I want to hear more !
@BvsMV
Love the long intro, maybe more effects on some parts should be interesting ?
But then it also make sense with the 80's beat, wich is very refreshing. Synths maybe a bit too loud ?
Then I'm a bit disappointed that it does not keep going bigger and bigger with a bass part, some vocals...
@ma_therapie Welcome. Got me all in a quandary here. It's those string chords/notes. Whether it's out of tune or not (I'm not noteworthy enough to know) the more I listen to them, the more they seem to fit in an edgy way. They can't be a million miles away but enough to notice that there is something different going on. Seems to fit with the style & coolness of your tune.
I'm a huge fan of dirty, disgusting, vicious bass although the section 1.40 to 1.50, on its own, sounds too in yer face, alone even, to me. But if you do decide to add some Hip Hop lyrics it will probably sit/feel more comfortable underneath things. Looking forward to those vocals & good luck with it all.
I like it. I wish (in a way) I'd never heard the original because you catch yourself making comparisons rather than being able to judge it on its own merits. But I think different mixes are always an interesting and freeing experiment. Music is so fluid, but I find songs tend to create their own 'dogma' in some ways and one plays safe with the obvious direction etc.
Critique: Personally I don't like the 'snare' sound, if that's what it is; perhaps just too modern for me. I think I might have add more top to the vocal EQ also, but that is, of course, a highly subjective matter. Good effort.
@ma_therapie, it's a cool vibe, but definitely needs a bit more something for me. Drums are a but up in the mix as well, overpower everything else. Love the scratch sound as well, nice texture there.
@BvsMV, nice mix and sounds, but took too long to get going for me, and then it needed a bit more something as it progressed. The style is not my cup of tea as well.
@crony, love the new mix. Love his voice, and the way it all moves together. Stellar bit of music there.
@crony Boys! This is much better IMO,the music is f@cking fab! Great retrack of the vocals Crouchie.I like the additional singing bits a lot.So yeah,the Stars have aligned and you have made it work....HOWEVER,don't hate,but I want the vocal louder In the mix.If you compare both tunes (I'm listening on Sony mdr 7506's) the vocal is much quieter on the new one.It cuts through ok but,it's just not loud enough to my ears.Was this intentional Crony? Did you use reference tracks? I'm happy to be wrong of course as getting levels right is my own worst enemy,but I'm just flagging it up for you is all.
So to recap....I love the new version but I want the old vocal volume on it.
Great work guys
Leo
@LostBoy85
Thanks
Yes I lower the voices on purpose...It's because I reminded a (very) old discussion/war about french and english sound engineers : english tend to lower the voices, french put them louder (too much ?).
So as I'm French, but working with an English, I thought I had to lower a bit the voices...
But I might put them louder yeah
I also need to test the mix in my car to see if it sounds good there...
@rickwaugh
Thank ou very much for your comment
I must say I've instantly been very inspired by the Paul's vocals, it's a pleasure to work with such good material. The other positive thing working with someone else is that you don't want to disapoint him. Someone giving you his voice to work on, so I've been much more methodic...
I also must say that IOS ecosystem is getting really mature and inspiring. Modstep with exporting loops synced with Link helped me a lot in my workflow. (now AUM does that also, such a cool feature...)
I could not have been so fast with testing some musical ideas without all these great Apps...And being fast helping to be really much more creative, and not getting bored with technique...
I'm sure this "song of the month" club will get better submission every months.
Hey, @BvsMV : nicely done. Congrats!
Hey, @crony: I think you nailed it with your latest remix. Nicely done!