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Blocs Wave, a new app from the Launchpad for iOS team

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  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @BiancaNeve said:
    Well I like the option of being able to type in tempo.

    Ditto.

  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited March 2016

    @BiancaNeve said:
    Well I like the option of being able to type in tempo.

    Aye! me too.

    EDIT: err, I mean +1!!!!

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Everything I see looks useful, especially the filtering by key and tempo,

    It is not filtering, it is real-time time-stretching to match tempo, and real-time transposing to match key.
    The missing real-time time-stretch is what was making it impossible to add link and Midi Slave to Launchpad, now they have an engine that supports both that and real-time transposition. If that gets incorporated into Launchpad, WOW WOW WOW WOW.

    My advice would be to buy it now for £4 before the price goes up, get Launchpad for free and buy the Audio Import IAP for £5 and the MIDI Clock IAP (up to £5 can't remember the actual price) and download MIDI Link Sync and your good to go using Launchpad as clock master to Midi Link Sync and then use Link for your other apps to Midi Link Sync
    You can then sit there all smug each time an update arrives and more amazing features get added to both.

    Love the enthusiasm. Would love to see some Launchpad pack crossover for sure.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Everything I see looks useful, especially the filtering by key and tempo,

    It is not filtering, it is real-time time-stretching to match tempo, and real-time transposing to match key.
    The missing real-time time-stretch is what was making it impossible to add link and Midi Slave to Launchpad, now they have an engine that supports both that and real-time transposition. If that gets incorporated into Launchpad, WOW WOW WOW WOW.

    My advice would be to buy it now for £4 before the price goes up, get Launchpad for free and buy the Audio Import IAP for £5 and the MIDI Clock IAP (up to £5 can't remember the actual price) and download MIDI Link Sync and your good to go using Launchpad as clock master to Midi Link Sync and then use Link for your other apps to Midi Link Sync
    You can then sit there all smug each time an update arrives and more amazing features get added to both.

    Love the enthusiasm. Would love to see some Launchpad pack crossover for sure.

    They published the key and tempo settings for the launchpad packs as a document to allow you to do it yourself, I guess they will be going through the packs and adding the Meta Data to them then re-releasing them, hopefully as common packs between the two with free upgrade for those who already purchased the LP pack.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @AndyPlankton said:
    It is not filtering, it is real-time time-stretching to match tempo, and real-time transposing to match key.
    The missing real-time time-stretch is what was making it impossible to add link and Midi Slave to Launchpad, now they have an engine that supports both that and real-time transposition. If that gets incorporated into Launchpad, WOW WOW WOW WOW.

    My advice would be to buy it now for £4 before the price goes up, get Launchpad for free and buy the Audio Import IAP for £5 and the MIDI Clock IAP (up to £5 can't remember the actual price) and download MIDI Link Sync and your good to go using Launchpad as clock master to Midi Link Sync and then use Link for your other apps to Midi Link Sync
    You can then sit there all smug each time an update arrives and more amazing features get added to both.

    All good points and I'm right there with you, except that my setup requires Launchpad as MIDI slave (or reacting to Link tempo changes). I do get your point about buying in early though.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    It is not filtering, it is real-time time-stretching to match tempo, and real-time transposing to match key.
    The missing real-time time-stretch is what was making it impossible to add link and Midi Slave to Launchpad, now they have an engine that supports both that and real-time transposition. If that gets incorporated into Launchpad, WOW WOW WOW WOW.

    My advice would be to buy it now for £4 before the price goes up, get Launchpad for free and buy the Audio Import IAP for £5 and the MIDI Clock IAP (up to £5 can't remember the actual price) and download MIDI Link Sync and your good to go using Launchpad as clock master to Midi Link Sync and then use Link for your other apps to Midi Link Sync
    You can then sit there all smug each time an update arrives and more amazing features get added to both.

    All good points and I'm right there with you, except that my setup requires Launchpad as MIDI slave (or reacting to Link tempo changes). I do get your point about buying in early though.

    If you need it as slave then your on a non starter at the moment I agree. Why do you need it as a slave if you don't mind me asking ?

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @AndyPlankton said:
    If you need it as slave then your on a non starter at the moment I agree. Why do you need it as a slave if you don't mind me asking ?

    I'm predominantly a live looper and adjust tempos on the fly. My DJ guy uses Live (or Launchpad in this case) for transitions between live looping sessions. So we need Launchpad to adjust to the live looping "main gig"--Live w/ Link works great for this purpose now. Would love to augment with Launchpad/Blocs/etc.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton
    edited March 2016

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    If you need it as slave then your on a non starter at the moment I agree. Why do you need it as a slave if you don't mind me asking ?

    I'm predominantly a live looper and adjust tempos on the fly. My DJ guy uses Live (or Launchpad in this case) for transitions between live looping sessions. So we need Launchpad to adjust to the live looping "main gig"--Live w/ Link works great for this purpose now. Would love to augment with Launchpad/Blocs/etc.

    Right OK I get you.

    How many loops are you using within a transition ? I ask because with Wave you have 8 loops and can adjust the tempo on the the fly, and it has tap for tempo too. That is if all your transition loops are audio and not midi also.
    From what they are saying I think link will definitely make it into Wave, they have the real-time time stretching and have also mentioned that BPM will go from 1-999 BPM which was done because it is needed for link support.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @AndyPlankton said:
    How many loops are you using within a transition ? I ask because with Wave you have 8 loops and can adjust the tempo on the the fly, and it has tap for tempo too. That is if all your transition loops are audio and not midi also.
    From what they are saying I think link will definitely make it into Wave, they have the real-time time stretching and have also mentioned that BPM will go from 1-999 BPM which was done because it is needed for link support.

    We definitely use less less than 8 loops per transition. For this reason and the fact that Wave has real-time stretching, I'm thinking it could be a good fit. I also like the Wave UI for Live situations. The simplicity makes a lot of sense, especially since we aren't using hardware controllers at the moment.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    How many loops are you using within a transition ? I ask because with Wave you have 8 loops and can adjust the tempo on the the fly, and it has tap for tempo too. That is if all your transition loops are audio and not midi also.
    From what they are saying I think link will definitely make it into Wave, they have the real-time time stretching and have also mentioned that BPM will go from 1-999 BPM which was done because it is needed for link support.

    We definitely use less less than 8 loops per transition. For this reason and the fact that Wave has real-time stretching, I'm thinking it could be a good fit. I also like the Wave UI for Live situations. The simplicity makes a lot of sense, especially since we aren't using hardware controllers at the moment.

    I don't think you can go wrong for £4. From the videos they have posted and comments made, it certainly looks like slicing is coming too, which could also be useful for transitions.

  • Igneous1Igneous1

    I'm probably an atypical user for this app, I bought it for importing my own sounds and making loops out of them. I presume if I import them at 120 BPM, there will be no time-stretching ?

    Like everyone else, I thought to buy it at the intro price and look forward to future changes.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @Launchpadforios said:

    @kobamoto said:
    once the app gets the slicing update I hope the bpm will be updated to be able to go lower than 60bpm. hopefully 10-25bpm.

    Actually I believe we've added 1-999bpm (as this is required for link support). So yes. We've already implemented that.

    oh didn't know this about Link, wonderful and thank you.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @kobamoto said:
    is there a way to copy from one slot to another?

    Select the pad you want to copy, press and hold for menu to pop up with copy/paste options, select copy, thenm select the pad you want to copy to and do the same (selecting paste instead of copy of course ) :)

    Gracias !

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @kobamoto said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @kobamoto said:
    is there a way to copy from one slot to another?

    Select the pad you want to copy, press and hold for menu to pop up with copy/paste options, select copy, thenm select the pad you want to copy to and do the same (selecting paste instead of copy of course ) :)

    Gracias !

    You're welcome :) , btw you can do this between projects as well.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    so are the in key options in the app automatic like the mixed in key app or do you have to tell the app what key a sample is in originally?

  • kobamotokobamoto

    Clip envelopes for fx Mmhmmm, you know you want it.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @kobamoto said:
    Clip envelopes for fx Mmhmmm, you know you want it.

    Internal Resampling, On the Fly, in sync -so that you can just choose an empty pad, record a performance on the other pads and Resample into that empty pad without stopping the music, and then play that pad with everything in sync..... May we have this?

  • BiancaNeveBiancaNeve

    How big is the sample set for Realivox Blue? I think it would put a dent in most iPads.
    You can get a version of Vocaloid in the Japanese store, but it's in Japanese.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Nathan said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Each pack looks to be at a BPM suitable for the genre, don't forget these will timestretch to whatever tempo and transpose to whatever key you are using for your project, even when you are previewing the packs on the store :)

    Sure, and I appreciate that. For the intro price it's a steal. All I'm saying is the devs have an opportunity here to either ramp up production of in house loops, and/or do some deals with the various loop makers to offer LOTS of options as reasonably priced IAP's. Hundreds, or preferably thousand via the major makers. Everybody wins.

    Personally, I have zero use for the generic EDM styli loops, or similar bog standard dub step or electric bleeps, 'cause who wants thier music to sound exactly like everything else. But if the devs did something different, old school psychedelic sounds (not trance), Trojan reggae, rare and classic 70's soul, ethnic instruments that haven't already been done to death, voices (not some berk yelling) and holy of holy's a Realivox Blue type of realistic programmable vocal, I'd be first in the queue for buying those IAP's. Again, everybody wins.

    In one of the threads/comments here @launchpadforios has said that they are now working with some smaller content producers as well as the bigger ones in order to provide more varied content :)

    +1 for Trojan reggae, some old jamaican ska would be cool as well.

  • robosardinerobosardine

    I like this app- what I have been hoping for in many ways. But yes- the lack of master export makes no sense to me- why is this not possible?!? Please change this Novation.

  • Igneous1Igneous1

    @Nathan said:

    Personally, I have zero use for the generic EDM styli loops, or similar bog standard dub step or electric bleeps, 'cause who wants thier music to sound exactly like everything else.

    >

    Same here, I'm more interested in what this app can do with one's own content (or more imaginative sound sources). Personally, I hope the focus is extended beyond soundpacks - which is what they've focused on with Launchpad so far (IMO).

  • BiancaNeveBiancaNeve

    I kind of like the Avanna vocaloid.

  • AmpifyxNovationAmpifyxNovation
    edited March 2016

    I decided to do a quick nord performance with blocs wave. I couldn't think of an ending...

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @BiancaNeve said:
    I kind of like the Avanna vocaloid.

    I've still got the install CD for the Miriam Vocaloid, I spent hours/days/weeks messing with that :D

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @Launchpadforios said:
    I decided to do a quick nord performance with blocs wave. I couldn't think of an ending...

    Nicely done.

  • BiancaNeveBiancaNeve
    edited March 2016

    @Launchpadforios that was pretty slick.

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @BiancaNeve said:
    I kind of like the Avanna vocaloid.

    I've still got the install CD for the Miriam Vocaloid, I spent hours/days/weeks messing with that :D

    Poor old Miriam she's had to be retired now. You can't upgrade V1

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @BiancaNeve said:
    I kind of like the Avanna vocaloid.

    I've still got the install CD for the Miriam Vocaloid, I spent hours/days/weeks messing with that :D

    Poor old Miriam she's had to be retired now. You can't upgrade V1

    I haven't got a music making PC anymore anyway :| You brought back fond memories though :)

  • anicktanickt

    Really nice so far but:

    1. The interface is too dark in daylight situations
    2. Would be nice to reverse a loop

    Otherwise I like it a lot.

  • WillWill

    @Launchpadforios said:

    @Philippe said:
    2- tempo adjustment on the main screen is a bit a pain, no way to scroll. It is even worse in the "attribute" box; having to type a bpm with a keyboard is somekind of a joke. (sorry but that's the way it feels with "todays touchscreen standards").

    Good point. Messages received and noted.

    There have been as many messages if not more (ok, way more) posted here about the frustration of not being able to directly enter a tempo into many many apps. Not to take away from Philippe's understandable desire to swipe but there's definitely another side so thanks for the direct entry box.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Hafta say that here in the gathering gloom of a Friday night I've been pulling out loops (yeah, pain, having to perfect trim them in AS) and then putting them on Launchpad....pretty interesting once you use the key changes etc.

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