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  • edited May 2016

    My first (and so far only) rap record. It tells the story of a cock roach trying to seduce a pastry at a French cooking school. Some have called it "Frank Zappa meets hip hop." I laughed a lot coming up with these lyrics. Features special guest Smoov Keef as Roach Pierre.

  • Who has the largest vocabulary in hiphop? Nerdy analysis/visualization: http://poly-graph.co/vocabulary.html

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  • So many good young rappers coming up. It's good to see it keep evolving..

  • @syrupcore said:
    Who has the largest vocabulary in hiphop? Nerdy analysis/visualization: http://poly-graph.co/vocabulary.html

    image

    did they list the words cause that's a hard one to believe, most condensed use of words would be easier to agree with imo but most of his words aren't unique imo.... looks like they didn't even include Paul Barman?

  • I didn't realise William Shakespeare was a rapper , my bad lol

  • I'm fairly certain by "unique" they mean different, as in some words will be used dozens of times, but here it is counted as one word. And the inclusion of Willie S. doesn't mean much - his plays were written for the common man and he likely avoided using unusual/less common words. Aesop Rock on the other hand likes to use his dictionary.

  • @kobamoto said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Who has the largest vocabulary in hiphop? Nerdy analysis/visualization: http://poly-graph.co/vocabulary.html

    image

    did they list the words cause that's a hard one to believe, most condensed use of words would be easier to agree with imo but most of his words aren't unique imo.... looks like they didn't even include Paul Barman?

    Barman has as many studio records as Biggie, who was excluded for not enough official material. (2 proper albums).

  • @carol said:
    I didn't realise William Shakespeare was a rapper , my bad lol

    Notorious B.A.R.D.

  • @carol said:
    I didn't realise William Shakespeare was a rapper , my bad lol

    He was the OG.

  • @Icepulse said:

    @carol said:
    I didn't realise William Shakespeare was a rapper , my bad lol

    Notorious B.A.R.D.

    Nicely done!

  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @Icepulse said:

    @carol said:
    I didn't realise William Shakespeare was a rapper , my bad lol

    Notorious B.A.R.D.

    Nicely done!

    Bigger
    And
    Roper;
    Defer

  • Nottz featuring Joy Denalane - How Long Will It Last?

    Nottz featuring Pete Rock - Turn It Up

  • Something so rich with so many overwhelmingly white people discussing "rap".

    I am sure that Grandmaster Flash is somewhere laughing.......................

  • don't know about rap but the purpose of hiphop is unity, white people have always been a part of this.

  • And something doubly amusing about how deep it runs in the blood of some of those white people. But then again, I don't just talk about it. I turn it out. ;)

  • Of course, I used to light up w/ Melle in the Yankee's bleachers, back in the 80's, sooooo....

  • Melle is out of his mind. he definitely got pushed to close to the edge

  • but he 'is' the 'one'

  • @kobamoto said:
    ... the purpose of hiphop is unity, white people have always been a part of this.

    I think hip hop is too large and means too much to too many people. As such, actual definitions are impossible. But! This is very much my personal definition.

  • good thread here. not sure if Ursus Minor has been mentioned. Their Zugzwang album (2005) is worth a listen.
    Dave King from Minneapolis on drums and some fine Jeff Beck guitar augment some excellent rap and poetry... brilliant work IMHO.

    lists

    burn one down

    le soldat range

    wont stop raining

    square dance rap

    sterner stuff

    she cant explain

  • yikes. just read through this thread...
    still love me some Ursus Minor...

  • @Moderndaycompiler said:
    yikes. just read through this thread...
    still love me some Ursus Minor...

    All you need is love. (Lennon, J.)

  • Ursella Rucker.
    Great rap and poetry.

  • edited May 2016

    @syrupcore said:

    @kobamoto said:
    ... the purpose of hiphop is unity, white people have always been a part of this.

    I think hip hop is too large and means too much to too many people. As such, actual definitions are impossible. But! This is very much my personal definition.

    Dream Warriors – My Definition Of A Boombastic Jazz Style

  • Of course that might mean going here:
    Vanilla Ice – Ice Ice Baby (also, as was the previous vid, on top of the pops)

  • edited May 2016

    And I suppose that this counts too
    KLF – 3am Eternal (on top of the pops)

    I have a theory, which one day I’ll have to write up as a one-off television documentary, and that is there’s a certain “scale” to a successful top of the pops performance. It’s not a small performance, but more so, not too big. A TOTP performance should err on the small side. I think a lot of the reason that acts have failed on TOTP over the decades (especially foreign acts who didn’t grow up watching it every week) is that they imagined the scale of the performance incorrectly (often too big). It’s a matter of matching the scale of the performance to the relatively small human scale of the pipe or conduit that carries the televisual experience. There are some acts who just get it correctly and this match-up of expectation leads to perceived success. I always hold up KLF as an example of an act that gets a TOTP performance exactly correct. Of course by the time we get to Last Train to Trancentral, it is all more grandiose, more people, more costume spend, etc, but yet still a perfect match to the information that the TOTP environment can accommodate, media-channel-wise. The Vanilla Ice example before is an unusual instance of a foreign act getting it exactly correct – a pretty near perfect TOTP payload.

    The KLF - Last Train To Trancentral

  • @Nathan said:

    @u0421793 said:
    The KLF - Last Train To Trancentral

    >

    Coincidentally, I read 'KLF Chaos. Magic. And the band who burned a million pounds - John Higgs.'

    Not only does it tell the expected story, but it's liberally littered with absolutely brilliant comments or examples on reality and how we are all manipulated for good or ill. Highly recommended.

    I got that for Xmas , brilliant - an eye opener even though I was already familiar with their history . I'd also recommend Bill Drummonds books , in particular '45'

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