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  • ah its a new day
    i have been looking for that 4 ever :D

  • @lala said:

    Les McCann sample here.

  • edited May 2016

    I don't know but when got male rappers so bad and the girls so good?
    haven't listen to hip hop for a few years ...

    I can't connect to the guys anymore?! haha
    I understand the girls though.

  • @Icepulse said:
    Robert Palmer vids showed women in the most demeaning way of all. Identical, carbon-copy objects. Totally subservient. All white, in heels w/ matching dresses.

    Women in Prince's band A) actually were involved in the performance, and some in helping define his sound. Wendy & Lisa, Sheila, etc. B) Were far more dominant, and brought their own style to the affair. They often were shown dominating him!

    totally different issue.... we were only talking about whether salt and peppa dressed like hookers vs the women in that robert plant video vs vanity 6... nothing else whatsoever...
    vanity 6 were the only ones dressed like hookers imo... but that was never a bad thing to me, I like how hookers dress.

  • edited May 2016

    what are women supposed to dress like to not look like hookers?
    no make up, jogging outfit and ponytail? :D

  • Then there's the greatest. > @kobamoto said:

    @Icepulse said:
    Robert Palmer vids showed women in the most demeaning way of all. Identical, carbon-copy objects. Totally subservient. All white, in heels w/ matching dresses.

    Women in Prince's band A) actually were involved in the performance, and some in helping define his sound. Wendy & Lisa, Sheila, etc. B) Were far more dominant, and brought their own style to the affair. They often were shown dominating him!

    totally different issue.... we were only talking about whether salt and peppa dressed like hookers vs the women in that robert plant video vs vanity 6... nothing else whatsoever...
    vanity 6 were the only ones dressed like hookers imo... but that was never a bad thing to me, I like how hookers dress.

    Feel better?

  • edited May 2016

    @syrupcore said:
    Can't believe this thread got worse. There's just plain old racism on display in parts of it.

    I'm not so sure racism can change but how we handle it can, if you know anybody that knows somebody that knows somebody else who knows what I'm sayin ;)

  • @Icepulse said:
    Then there's the greatest. > @kobamoto said:

    @Icepulse said:
    Robert Palmer vids showed women in the most demeaning way of all. Identical, carbon-copy objects. Totally subservient. All white, in heels w/ matching dresses.

    Women in Prince's band A) actually were involved in the performance, and some in helping define his sound. Wendy & Lisa, Sheila, etc. B) Were far more dominant, and brought their own style to the affair. They often were shown dominating him!

    totally different issue.... we were only talking about whether salt and peppa dressed like hookers vs the women in that robert plant video vs vanity 6... nothing else whatsoever...
    vanity 6 were the only ones dressed like hookers imo... but that was never a bad thing to me, I like how hookers dress.

    Feel better?

    always.

    now when it comes to talent, the women Prince have had around him have always been ridiculously talented, I'm not even sure if he could stand it any other way.

  • @kobamoto said:

    @Icepulse said:
    Then there's the greatest. > @kobamoto said:

    @Icepulse said:
    Robert Palmer vids showed women in the most demeaning way of all. Identical, carbon-copy objects. Totally subservient. All white, in heels w/ matching dresses.

    Women in Prince's band A) actually were involved in the performance, and some in helping define his sound. Wendy & Lisa, Sheila, etc. B) Were far more dominant, and brought their own style to the affair. They often were shown dominating him!

    totally different issue.... we were only talking about whether salt and peppa dressed like hookers vs the women in that robert plant video vs vanity 6... nothing else whatsoever...
    vanity 6 were the only ones dressed like hookers imo... but that was never a bad thing to me, I like how hookers dress.

    Feel better?

    always.

    now when it comes to talent, the women Prince have had around him have always been ridiculously talented, I'm not even sure if he could stand it any other way.

    Well.... Except for Apollonia.

    I dig Ingred Chavez a lot. She still makes interesting music.

  • she did provide the film presence he needed though... none of the others could have

  • edited May 2016

    I would really like to know where the oh c`mon yeah came from
    thats another classic

  • rap music is the only kind of music that prince did terribly!

  • Shameless plug for a conscious rap track I'm working on.

  • edited May 2016

    i really like kiss
    its such a great production
    its sounds like he is singing at home while scrubbing the toilette on xtc - great!

    it sounds ultra queer and prince didn't give a shit
    got more ladys than anyone else with that number, lol
    so thats extra cool

  • @raindro said:
    Shameless plug for a conscious rap track I'm working on.

    I like the music
    but the mix is really strange, the vocal verse is completely on the left side and not on both speakers ...

  • edited May 2016

    Much of my respect for krs-one is due to his ability to slice right through the BS of the planet. Speaks out strongly against violence, ignorance, apathy, inequalities, greed, etc. Doesn't discriminate.
    And his positive message and enthusiasm can be infectious which ain't a bad thing.

  • I'm just going to leave this here. > @kobamoto said:

    rap music is the only kind of music that prince did terribly!

    That's a good point, but I think you're dead wrong about Apollonia. Vanity was supposed to take that role, but they broke up. She would have been much better. Hell, Jill Jones was better.

  • @lala said:
    i really like kiss
    its such a great production
    its sounds like he is singing at home while scrubbing the toilette on xtc - great!

    it sounds ultra queer and prince didn't give a shit
    got more ladys than anyone else with that number, lol
    so thats extra cool

    That and "If I Was Your Girlfriend". Dorothy P has my vote for best production.

  • @Redo1 said:
    Much of my respect for krs-one is due to his ability to slice right through the BS of the planet. Speaks out strongly against violence, ignorance, apathy, inequalities, greed, etc. Doesn't discriminate.
    And his positive message and enthusiasm can be infectious which ain't a bad thing.

    Blesssssss

  • @Icepulse said:
    I'm just going to leave this here. > @kobamoto said:

    rap music is the only kind of music that prince did terribly!

    That's a good point, but I think you're dead wrong about Apollonia. Vanity was supposed to take that role, but they broke up. She would have been much better. Hell, Jill Jones was better.

    I disagree, Vanity couldn't act her way out of a paper bag, she would have definitely pleased my eyes better than apollonia but she would have been looking at the camera all the time :D

  • her acting in this was awful.

  • Great thread.

  • Still a big fan of 90s hip hop, love MF Doom. One of my favorites from more recent times Shabazz Palaces are touring with Radiohead (actually 2 favorites as Dawn of Midi also on some dates)

  • Have to post some music from the much ridiculed English Rap genre

  • Thank you, gentlemen and gentlewomen, I learned a lot inside of this thread, really nice stuff to listen to (among other). I just felt bored with the kind of "cult" around rap and hiphop, it's just being pressed into my personal reality too much, and, of course, not always the best examples of actual artistry, but the "loudest" and "harshest" voices... . Thus I am very appreciative of these examples here, now I feel again like "the world is not lost yet" (please understand I am too old nowadays to still be in touch, like I used to). The world is a nice place. This is a nice place. Thanks.

  • edited May 2016

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