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Sadly, the musicians in hip hop are usually overlooked for their talent, even to the extent that they are termed "producer", while the MC is usually the one referred to as the "artist". This is frustrating as hell.
Guys like Premier, Pete Rock, etc. are real visionaries, creating razor-sharp, percolating grooves from little more than scraps of musical flotsam.
I couldn't agree more. Underground Rap/Hip Hop is free of the corporate controlled, filtered, meaningless lyrical content so prevalent in mainstream music.
I used to play that track at parties, think the sample made it, as the beat was pretty standard, was really into the rave scene, for me a very magical time when all the boundaries got dropped for a few years and people could just be themselves and not worry about the mundane affiliations. Think the point I was making which you also make is it is hard to tell where the origins are, as there is so much borrowing, cross pollination, people making stuff their own and outright passing off of other people's flow.
Reducing culture to colour, sex or religion etc, is a fools errand, as good ideas travel a lot faster than people, especially if you think jung had a point, which I do after dabbling in mind altering substances. One of the reasons I'm hopeful for the future, even though the tards are at the wheel and heading towards the cliff, is I experienced what happens when peoples conditioning is no longer an issue and what I saw was very beautiful and universal.
I prefer Grebo to rap. Rap wasn't stuck in a mold during the '80s. PWEI did their own thing with it.
Pop Will Eat Itself | Def Con One
Can't believe this thread got worse. There's just plain old racism on display in parts of it.
how does race matter now?
you can't even tell if I am male or female or black or white or yellow or str8 or queer
looks to me like right now we are just humans infront of a display
Po.
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
its the language barrier again
ah, i c
I'd chalk it up to ignorance before I floated outright racism into the scenario.
Hip Hop doesn't "speak" to folks in the same way Langston Hughes or Ralph Ellison doesn't speak to them. Meaning, such writing openly addresses the issues that face the African-American community, and how those issues shape their lives. And certain people are not interested in that reality. It's a form of willful ignorance, because hip-hop is VERY confessional; in a way that is usually only found in literature, and almost never found in other genres of music. So I'd agree that likely the same people that don't want to hear hip-hop are the same types that don't want interact w/ black urbanites under any conditions.
Anyone who's ever told me "rap sucks" has, invariably, gotten around to making racist remarks at another juncture. It never fails.
But that's their privilege.
Yes, it's true.
Really ? I hadn't noticed , thought it was all pretty calm and the criticisms of the genre based on personal taste of the musical content itself , rather than the race of those making it
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Problem is, the content varies widely. So generalizations are stereotypes.
huh?
c`mon, lol
Im gonna play u gay dance hits till the cows come home
and if you don't like the music Im gonna tell you you are a heterosexual pig.
If you are not with me you are against me.
thats bs
That won't work. I love Grace Jones & Pet Shop Boys.
It's when you disparage an entire genre that eyebrows go up.
lol
but u get my point ...
But again, anyone who takes my observations personally would do better to spend even one second looking at themselves, than to dismissing the assertion outright.
Not really, because if you played it, as you say, "till the cows came home", and I couldn't find something to like, you'd probably be right to call me that. Clearly, the unifying characteristic of all those songs would be the "gay" part.
To be honest there are many good tunes in every single genre. It's just a matter of personal taste
i can't resist
its not hip but you can sure do the hop to it
Here's the track that that first one was stolen from. At least hip-hop tries to mix it up a little bit!
oh nice dig
this is lifted from "the twin peaks theme"
the voice is lifted from "dead can dance"
looks like I am more interested in the sound of hip hop and not the rapper
I'll offer these two as an olive branch, because I think it can change your mind. Then I'm out.
BDP - Like A Throttle
KRS-One - Mortal Thought
arrrgh i always have to look for another source
I can't watch half of the stuff here in germany
fucking youtube geofence & GEMA
What Lala said