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very interesting video, I do declare I have a soft spot for hip hop, two of my favs...
Talking about kindergarten melodies
Of course I have everything Richard d. James (aphex twin, afx, ...)
This is nicely mocking hip hop and the plastic hip hop video cliché and the white man have no funk shit
I doubt it was Jay. Mellow Gold dropped 2 years before the first Jay-Z record.
Nah, lots of awesome rap/hip hop still being made, but of cause if you only listen to the mainstream stuff i understand your argument.
Aesop Rock has a brand new album out!
I do love window licker, I remember seeing the stickers everywhere when it came out, I also thought though both aphex twin and squarepusher were heavily influenced by these two guys.
I think they all heard this, but I am not sure
It's hard to tell who came up first with this weird groove
Funky drummer and amen have been sampled to death in 80s hip hop already
Lol I just found the original, lol
There are so many versions of this lol
This is the "mtv version"
I am totally wrong and you are right, good sir. Apologies. It was Chuck D of Public Enemy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loser_(Beck_song)
Last poets and KRS-One...get it started right
I can't connect to this. I think it's pretentious. Meh.
Valid. Toast. I love Baudelaire but I think Byron's all hype and posturing, all that but he joined the Greek War of Independence to fight the Ottoman Empire shit. Oh sure, he had a thing going on with the ladies:
She walks in Beauty, like the night
Of cloudless climes and starry skies;
And all that's best of dark and bright
Meet in her aspect and her eyes:
Thus mellowed to that tender light
Which Heaven to gaudy day denies.
But that's just soft pussy stuff for me. It's true that his daughter Ada worked on Babbage's Analytical Engine which many consider to be a founding document in the field of computer science which brought us the iPad after all, but his rhyme game was weak bro.
^^ lol I commented on another video
But redo changed the video according to his screen name
Haven't read any Byron, but I liked gothic (the movie), Baudelaire I only read les fleurs du mal, but that was 20 years ago, don't ask me anything ^^ there was something with an owl with red eyes or something I liked that ^^
As usual I have no idea if you are laughing at me or with me ^^
I enjoy your responses so much more than my own. I think you should maybe consider a "ghost writer" service for this forum. I'd totally pay you.
I see your "all of this is the same" and raise you one...
what can I say...redo gonna do what redo do.
I rather liked this, when it was released into the hit parade, although all my colleagues and friends working at ST World magazine (an Atari ST mag) hated it, preferring to listen to their Dire Straits and Pink Floyd forever.
And funnily enough it was only last year that I heard (and really saw the point of the sparsity in) the original version of this (Run DMC Its Like That):
But this lively Kraftwerk tribute somehow passed me by completely when it came out just over 30 years ago (oh yes) (nice image though):
edit: found out where the above image came from: http://robricketts.bigcartel.com/products
It's not the cultural thing I don't get , and I like a lot of the backing music in rap . What I don't like , is the vocal rap itself . Brushing aside the meathead mainstream stuff about 'gangstas' and 'bitches' , and promos more akin to sportswear ads than music videos - even the more intelligent rapping just grates with me . It bores me in the same way that spoken word folk or poetry does . Occasionally a track will tickle my fancy - The Bug I quite like - but overall it's a genre I can live without lol . I'm sure there are rap fans who feel the same about the experimental drone stuff I listen to )
Thanks for writing it in my place
I was under the impression that violence, demeaning women, calling them whores and bitches was a part of 'American Culture'.... damn did black folks invent that stuff too or are you giving black folks too much credit?
american culture,
isn't that the thing where they shoot each other
and are afraid of terror
and were family values means beating the wife and the kids with a belt?
where wendy carlos can't go to moogfest because she can't use the ladys restrooms.
The music culture of black America is mostly what my generation grew up on. So much stems from blues and jazz. The culture divide for me started with rap. I guess it was beatniks when I was a child. Like Carol says, the backing music can be cool.
It’s not just about old farts, but old people tend to hang on to the values they cherished when they were young. Many of the rap artists I see or hear just rub me the wrong way, or I have no idea what they’re going on about. Should I take what they say as literal? What is our common ground? As long as no one gets hurt, I try not to judge a different culture.
the old stuff was about fun and party, the sex stuff was fun and with a lot of not meant to degrade women
its a pose a style element
like girls 10 min under the shower in mangas ...
the gangster thing is awful
None needs that
I was hoping for someone to come up with "angry young women rap" to listen to
that may be fun?
not easy to answer, I can't tell if you and nathan are talking about american culture, black culture, or rap music?
giving it the old heevhoe.... I can only tell you what I do...firstly when I encounter violence in entertainment I just assume Deniro, matt damon/jason bourne, Pacino, or whatever current movie the rapper Common is in where the violence is taking place is not actually happening and is even partly cgi... I would never pay good money to go see and hear actual violence, I think those are called snuff films. where are you checking this stuff out at it sounds like they are making it look all too real, surely you're not talking about mtv are you?
you think the 'hooker' look began with salt and pepper?..... man I thought you've been around for a while, where have you been? you do know they came out in 1985 right?
what do you call the way women dressed in every ted nugent concert and video?
I dunno guys, I wasn't sure of what you were talking about at first but I think the rest of the world knows that all of those rappers named after characters in the godfather movies and women dressed like hookers (if you wanna call it that) in music wasn't started by the people you're giving the credit too, maybe you would call the godfather black culture I dunno but scantly clad women?.... 'black culture'.... that's kind of a stretch isn't it?
Not for me , sorry , there's enough anger in the World already , it's not something I want to hear when I listen to music )
yeah but then you can't listen to radiohead either, or the blues, or etc.... but I can understand not wanting to listen to an angry song when you want to hear a happy song just like when I want to listen to bad brains I don't want to hear katy perry, it just depends on the mood.
the generalizations though are another issue... it's possible that what might be going on here is that some folks aren't familiar enough with rap music to know that there is more than one genre within rap music, just like there is more than a single genre in rock, punk, and other genres etc.... sounds like rap music is viewed as a singularity, like the definition of rap music is only what 50 cent puts out or something....not a big deal really , you can't blame people for not knowing what they don't know. Come to think of it there are folks who think the only definition of electronic music is tiesto...