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BASSalicious is Now LIVE!

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  • Hey Dev, will we be able to get an update for midi out?

  • @kobamoto said:
    Hey Dev, will we be able to get an update for midi out?

    Personally I see no point in adding midi-out to the app as it can be used as AU in a DAW such as Cubasis.
    Most AU-Hosts already have a built-in keyboard to play the the AUs so the need for midi-out is questionable.

  • it's not questionable for us who also like to also use the iPad as a sound module with our external hardware sequencers. I'm sure it wouldn't interfere with you cubasis au users?

  • @Kaikoo2 said:

    @Kaikoo2 said:
    @GospelMusicians ,

    I finally have it deleted and reinstall the BASSa app. Now , it is ok to remove it from track. However, the second time I try it with Zero Reverb, then just remove BASSa, it letting Modstep crashing.

    Could you please have more testing for AU compatibility. Thank you, it is a nice synth for me.

    @nerk_, @cblomert ,

    I have found that a Modstep track with AU synth and AU fx on, I can not remove the synth first. I have to one by one remove the fx apps, then remove the AU synth. Otherwise, Modstep go crashing. It is not just BASSalicious crashes but also iSem can crash Modstep too.

    Is there a way to remove AU synth only, or just one time remove all of them on one track?

    I don't want people to think something wrong with the new BASSalicilous.

    Sounds more like a modstep issue then doesn't it

  • @BiancaNeve said:

    @Kaikoo2 said:

    @Kaikoo2 said:
    @GospelMusicians ,

    I finally have it deleted and reinstall the BASSa app. Now , it is ok to remove it from track. However, the second time I try it with Zero Reverb, then just remove BASSa, it letting Modstep crashing.

    Could you please have more testing for AU compatibility. Thank you, it is a nice synth for me.

    @nerk_, @cblomert ,

    I have found that a Modstep track with AU synth and AU fx on, I can not remove the synth first. I have to one by one remove the fx apps, then remove the AU synth. Otherwise, Modstep go crashing. It is not just BASSalicious crashes but also iSem can crash Modstep too.

    Is there a way to remove AU synth only, or just one time remove all of them on one track?

    I don't want people to think something wrong with the new BASSalicilous.

    Sounds more like a modstep issue then doesn't it

    Not really, this time. The above adding and remove AU synth and fx belong to Modstep's developer job.

    But the frozen BASSalicilous app within Modstep belong to @GospelMusicians job to work out this AU synth.

    Developers on both side need to do works to smooth out users experiences on this synth. :/

  • Well well, even a recovering app-a-colic can't get enough of BASS and considering the devs mutual addiction to PWM I could not help but to get the IAP and on top if it all it works perfectly within Cubasis, no issues what so ever :)

  • well I don't even think the dev uses cubasis so I hope he makes it work with more than just that my friend....

  • edited June 2016

    No worry, Samu will buy Modstep. He is just pushing hard developers to fix the Modstep.

    I think 'midi out' from BASSa is good idea, if they are willing to make it. Not many synth can rank on top. Animoog does have midi out, even sending after touch. I favour BASSa for midi out too.

    Actually, BASSa interface is not too cool, the presets system needs a second time touch to close and hear the presets sound. That should be refurbished. The main 4 oscillator knobs just way a bit small compared to those front face knobs. Those 4 oscillators actually more important to the users to design their own presets.

    Btw, why should I activate presets? Just one touch for change preset to hear the sound, that is enough. The word 'activate' is redundant for my thinking. Am I miss something?

  • If or when BASSalicious gets Midi-Out I hope they will make width of the on-screen keys adjustable for them to be more playable thus worthy of being recorded into an external sequencer. The keys are way way too narrow for my fingers on an iPad Air 2.

    I also feel the UI will get improved/adjusted over time especially if more editable parameters become available.
    (Can't wait for LFO / Envelope control over PWM which is nice considering it works for all other waveforms too).

    At some point I'll probably get ModStep too ;)

  • edited June 2016

    Ya, Samu,

    LFO / Env over PWM should be priority no. 1,

    if possible making those 4 OSCs knobs big, bigger and bigger, that window is too small, please.

  • Just taking notes for the my developer. A few things to consider:

    1. When you say MIDI out, you are really saying Virtual MIDI. We thought about including this, but AU makes it not needed. Also Bassalicious does not have a step sequencer so why do you really need to go MIDI out unless Bassalicious acts as a patch board for modulators. We just don't understand the use case given AU.

    2. The way programming works is that enabling AU is a switch. Apple sends us the AU package and we implement the package. Not trying to say Bassalicious is perfect, but it is very likely that the AU crashes are just because AU is so new. It was just fully implemented within a few months and it takes more devs to do it in order for it to be stable. So you got to let us and Apple work through the beginning stages.

  • @Samu said:
    If or when BASSalicious gets Midi-Out I hope they will make width of the on-screen keys adjustable for them to be more playable thus worthy of being recorded into an external sequencer. The keys are way way too narrow for my fingers on an iPad Air 2.

    I also feel the UI will get improved/adjusted over time especially if more editable parameters become available.
    (Can't wait for LFO / Envelope control over PWM which is nice considering it works for all other waveforms too).

    At some point I'll probably get ModStep too ;)

    I hope for controller improvements too, it's a mono synth so why not add some x/y pads that lock to scales and such to go with the keyboard.... an easy way to really improve it's usefulness, fun, and a great way to record swipes into those external sequencers out there.

  • edited June 2016

    @GospelMusicians said:
    Just taking notes for the my developer. A few things to consider:

    1. When you say MIDI out, you are really saying Virtual MIDI. We thought about including this, but AU makes it not needed. Also Bassalicious does not have a step sequencer so why do you really need to go MIDI out unless Bassalicious acts as a patch board for modulators. We just don't understand the use case given AU.

    2. The way programming works is that enabling AU is a switch. Apple sends us the AU package and we implement the package. Not trying to say Bassalicious is perfect, but it is very likely that the AU crashes are just because AU is so new. It was just fully implemented within a few months and it takes more devs to do it in order for it to be stable. So you got to let us and Apple work through the beginning stages.

    good morning!, the midi out would not be for virtual midi or for step sequencers but for regular core midi out, so that the playing of Bassalicious's keys and tweaking of it's knobs and other parameters can be recorded into an external sequencer and played back by the sequencer into the synth.... your friend boondock and very sick beats would love to use bassalicious with their MPC's this way, many people would love this. Using the iPad like a sound module.

  • know what I mean?

  • It really makes more sense to attach a controller-keyboard to the external sequencer and use a midi-splitter to feed the midi-out to all the external sound modules. This was the way I set up my home-studio when I used hardware...
    (I had Yamaha SY-85 as the 'master controller' and Juno-106, MC-303, Nord Micro Modular, TX81z, Korg ES-1 as 'sound modules' sequenced from an Amiga 600HD running Music-X and at later date Cubase on the Mac).

  • this won't record the parameter swipes, movements, and tweaks on the iPad into the external hardware sequencer.... this takes midi in and out.... this isn't for controlling the app from the external hardware sequencer, it's for controlling the app via the iPad and recording what you do into the external sequencer and then having the sequencer play that back.

  • edited June 2016

    here is a video, all of the iPad movements and playing he is doing can be recorded into the hardware sequencer to his right and played back, edited, etc...... if he wants to, he can even do midi live looping this way if he wanted..

  • edited June 2016

    Ya, he is using Animoog 'midi out' with xy pad cc out. Animoog internal sound with other gadget's sound by Animoog keyboard at the same time.

  • edited June 2016

    MIDI out with an X-Y pad is more of a specific feature. It's cool, but it's overall utility for most users is not there. We do not have an X-Y Pad or a controller type function to mangle up external sounds. That's not what BASSalicious is for. This feature would definitely take a back seat to things like PWM, better filters, more oscillators, a bigger playable keyboard, feedback for the filter, etc....Things that make the sound more special. Even adding Samples mixed with Wavetables.

  • he's not but he could if he wanted to, all he'd need to do is connect a midi cable from the iPad to the mpc and from the mpc back to the iPad cause animoog has midi out as well as in. and everything he's doing on the iPad can be recorded into the sequencer and played back perfectly just like hooking up a motif to the mpc.

  • @GospelMusicians said:
    MIDI out with an X-Y pad is more of a specific feature. It's cool, but it's overall utility for most users is not there. We do not have an X-Y Pad or a controller type function to mangle up external sounds. That's not what BASSalicious is for. This feature would definitely take a back seat to things like PWM, better filters, more oscillators, a bigger playable keyboard, feedback for the filter, etc....Things that make the sound more special. Even adding Samples mixed with Wavetables.

    no the x/y pad stuff was something else... I'm just talking about midi out the same as your midi in just the other half, the x/y pad idea was just an alternative controller idea... but you already have the keyboard and all of the knob and parameters there that can be used now.

  • I'm not talking about mangling external sounds.....

    I'm only talking about touching the keys and knobs on the bassalicious screen and recording that into the mpc sequencer. no external sounds... only talking about controlling Bassalicious.

  • did you see the video, every time he touches the iPad screen, he can record that touch into the mpc sequencer and play it back just how he swiped everything on the iPad screen.

  • Keyboard MIDI out is doable

  • ok, and could the knobs send midi too?

  • edited June 2016

    Ya, it is not a big deal, just more integrated midi environments, if BASSa try to be ranked higher. If no time for that at this stage, it is very very fine. Thank you, developer, please bigger 4 oscillators knobs and slider.

    And please solve the Modstep AU problem first.

  • i think the midi out is already there , just not turned on I believe.

  • kaikoo2 does it already have midi learn?

  • and GospelMusicians Gracias, Gracias, Gracias!

  • Long press and hold for MIDI learn

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