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I would say that this more of a tinkering tool than DFX or Turnado. In fact, I think some kind of community sharing of presets would make Moebius Lab more accessible to "non-tinkerers" but when "Lab" is right in the title of the app, I suppose it could be working against the dev's vision.
Is there a way to use the sampler and the synth at the same time?
I don't believe it's possible to use both, but if you have one of the other the other Amazing Noises apps, you can have that as the sampler input via IAA and run the synth. You can then run them both through the Moebius and IAA effects.
Some feature requests:
-AU hosting
-CC control of LFOs speed. (All amazing noises apps)
+1
Thanks!
You guys are crazy!
AU extension format supports are merely bare bones.
You guys asking for dreams on such things with all Midi in/out IAA and Ableton Link, Multiple audio output possibilities, plus an Internal Keyboard with Automation.
Come on, gone crazy with AU?
Ya, let's wait AU to hosting other apps.
My question exactly, and a cool workaround, (bringing in some of that Apesoft granular stuff into the plan would be almost too much fun...might be too much CPU but I'm going to try it)
Alternatively, Maybe it wouldn't be to much to ask @mauriziogiri is there a way to make the sample "module" one of the oscillators...
By the way, @mauriziogiri this is a stunning creation and my request comes out of pure greed, seriously there's nothing like this app anywhere, it's one of those apps that keep me coming back to iOS music. Brilliant
OK, this app is incredible (that reverse effect is really neat). I've probably scratched about 5% of the surface.
One big question, can I possibly take an on-board effect from one chain and move it to the other? If so, how? Sorry I'm sure this has been asked before but I'm a bit busy to read this whole thread (or the other).
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I don't think so because the top chain is "time domain" and works on the waveform, bottom chain is "frequency domain" and works on spectrum. I guess the app is separating off these aspects (of the Sample etc) - and then you can blend them via the feedback chains. You can of course reorder them in their respective chains, you can also double tap the feedback chains and randomize everything in the chain or /set LFO Assignments/switch waveforms/ and a bunch of other stuff.
Not 100% on this - but seems the case.
This app is perfect for sound design. the amount of sounds that I have been able to create is insane. I really think this is an essential app, for anyone involved with iOS music/ sound design. I've been beta testing this one for a little while, and one of my favorite things to do is to play its internal synth, and open another synth in an iaa slot, and use the Moebius to play both synth at the same time, to get a nice layered sound. and for even more dynamics and movement, I set a bunch of lfo's to change parameters, and mess with feedback while playing. love it! Do not question it, buy it! You will love it.
I did share a Dropbox link and uploaded a few of my Preset Snapshots - I'm sure it's not against vision, as being able to statefully save everything so quickly, and then upload anywhere is in the menus. If more apps allowed for this, would be truly incredible how you could quickly create sounds... add your own flavor... pass it on - truly an amazing aspect of this app. Here's the Link if you want to check out a few of mine - would actually be nice to know if this works: https://dropbox.com/home/Moebius%20Presets
Good to know, thanks! Makes sense. I'm def. going to need to spend some time this weekend getting acquainted!
It seems pretty natural that people who like Moebius Lab, would also want to use their AU apps as either sound sources and/or effects in the app. If Moebius Lab could have a pop up window for when you expanded the AU Node from its square. If the current IAA nodes could be IAA/AU nodes that'd work. There would of course be the need to setup AU MIDI routing and AU MIDI parameter settings in Moebius Lab, which would all be a lot more work for the developer. Ultimately though, AU could be a good fit as currently they take up limited resources, their controls are tightly integrated with the AU host app, and you save their settings when you save presets in the AU host versus IAA apps which would require remembering their settings independently for each setup or in combination with an Audiobus setup using preset state saving.
These sorts of flows are going to be much more viable on the newer iPads so it is surprising that Apple dropped the ball on AU support and implementation at a time when iPad sales are leveling out.
Currently people can incorporate their AU apps into a setup with Moebius Lab by loading their AU apps into AUM. Which combinations of AUM/AB/Moebius Lab will be interesting to see without getting too much feedback or iOS errors.
Thanks for this. I've been trying to figure out how this might fit in my workflow and not just be another sound mangler. As fun as sound manglers are, they make it into my music at a 100/1 ratio, time-wise. Justification couplers engaged.
A major selling point for Moebius hosting synths and effects. Trendy!
Here's a 30 second video of Moebius:
no problem, I have sound mangler apps that I never use, this is not one. it will easily be used in a everyday workflow. defiantly buy it
No, it's a good idea. We could think about it.
What would you say about the possibility of sharing presets directly within the app?
We could have an internal browser to search and load all the presets saved by the community, with tags and so on.
I don't know how difficult this would be, but it is certainly intriguing.
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That's exactly what I meant--I've used apps before where the search through community presets was built right in to the app itself (Positive Grid Bias, for instance) and it's fantastic. If you find a community member whose sounds you like, you can follow them and share, etc. It'd be perfect for an app like Moebius because it'll translate the power into an accessible framework for people who don't have the time to dive deep into the depths of this app.
@mauriziogiri
Possible to update sample module as an assignable "oscillator" for inapp synth?
MIlle grazie, for this playground
Oh my god yes. A thousand times yes.
I'd love this - Synthmaster has this (though not many upload, and not for iOs I think). I created similar in Dropbox, but definitely not ideal for sharing in the immediate sense. I'm a big dreamer of course, but it would be wonderful if other apps could be saved as snapshots as well - with a couple .plist files you'd have stateful recreation of a whole workflow.
Thanks for creating the app. I would like to suggest adding a slicer so you can trigger transients from a keyboard or sequencer. Also MIDI CC for parameter automation.
the app already has midi learn.
I feel a slicer and a 'slice segment re-arranger/sequencer' deserve a separate app with per segment mangling and effects.
This could then be used as input in Moebius Lab if needed
Agreed, I can't believe folks would really look at an app with that much going on and think "it needs _____"! There is a LOT going on here!
@mkell424 One thing you could potentially do is run Egoist or another sample slicer (I suggest Egoist 'cause it will trigger transients by MIDI note) as an IAA Instrument in Moebius Labs.
I completely agree that a slicer would be great!!!
this would be a wonderful natural progression of the app and would fit wonderfully within the 'Laboratory' ethos of the app!!
Looks incredible and great overview video. Congrats on the release!
Sector hosted in AUM (for sync sake) and effected by moebius?