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Korg Gadget update including 3 new Gadgets

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  • @ElGregoLoco said:

    @chimp_spanner said:
    Without audio tracks, the realistic gadgets (acoustic drums and basses) feel a bit out of place for me, but the new insert FX are great.

    I fully agree... Korg Gadget is by far the most satisfying iOS music software in terms of ease of use, fun I have and updates by the devs...
    If only they would add Auditracks or a proper sampler, I guess I could then delete most of the other apps on my iPad. Strangely, I have to admit that I would love to make music in a closed Korg Gadget environment if I had the opportunity to add audiotracks to record vocals and instruments in Gadget.

    My issue with the closed system is I love their sequencer so much. Link helps, but when I'm running Gadget next to some other sequencer like Modstep, it's frustrating trying to change scenes in both at the same time.

    Ultimate solution would be midi out gadgets, or IAA gadgets, or even AU gadgets! I can't imagine the fun to be had with Gadget's sequencing and automation driving the rest of my apps.

  • @Igneous1 said:
    Super, smashing, great !

    I'm digging the track fx indeed. Any thoughts on the new drum gadget versus London ? And the new bass one ? Can't say I'm too excited about the chiptune one, but each to their own.

    The new drum gadget Gladstone has 20 acoustic drum kits, 3 band EQ, and a compressor.

  • To be fair, the Megadrive/Genesis used an FM chip almost identical to the DX100. Chiptune is more the previous generation: C64, NES, early 80s coin-ops. And, yes, as much as I will forever love the SID sound, it's too limited and passé for me to consider the IAP price here. A wavetable synth with user waveform input, or a wave sequencing gadget based on the Wavestation, would be much more interesting.

  • edited July 2016

    @Samu said:
    I'm almost sh*ting in my pants regarding the new Korg/Namco Gadget.

    It's so fully automate-able it's crazy. I mean create a pattern and then record the drawing and selecting of waves in realtime and everything is automated without blinking. To maximise the effect set Gadgets tempo to slowest possible (20BPM) and start recording the wave-drawing/selection and then speed it up once recording is done :D

    I'm still hoping the rest of the Gadget onscreen keyboards get vertical-velocity just like Madrid.

    That sounds pretty mad @Samu Shame I have little time this weekend to eplore :(

  • Great update. Because it's gadget parameters for the new effects are exposed for automation! Really expands the sound pallet a lot.

    Haven't gotten any of the extra gadgets, but Kamata interests me the most.

  • Okay, I jumped for all three! Really impressed so far. I'm a guitar player and rock/indie music fan - I enjoy dabbling into synthesizers and some EDM, but Gladstone and Madrid by themselves finally give you a foundation for making legitimate backing tracks. And it's completely within the Gadget ecosystem, so if I wanted to add a synth pad or orchestral background, you have a full suite of great sounding instruments.

    Gladstone is 20 kits - about half of those are variations on a rock/pop drums, but there are some jazz kits and other unique touches, such as a drum kit that sounds like it was mic'ed from afar. Nothing revolutionary here - all of this probably could have been done in Bilbao, but $9.99 for 20 awesome sounding kits in a convenient interface isn't bad at all. These are immediately the best rock oriented drums in all of Gadget, despite the fact that there are several other rhythm based gadgets. (London is great, but very EDM).

    Madrid - I think this app can give iFretlessBass (my favorite for years) a real run for its money. Really nails the varying dynamics of a picked bass versus fingerstyle, and you have 6 amp options and a variety of effects, so each one can be tweaked even further. Another AWESOME feature is that that it has an envelope control, similar to an ADSR for a synth, but that can be applied to these modeled sounds of real instruments. That is going to be insanely useful for recording parts and tweaking the amount of low end saturation between each note.

    Kamata - I was on the fence about this one, but after realizing how much I liked the other two, it became a no-brainer. I like the idea of chiptune, but don't have great ideas how to use it (yet). But this gadget looks infinitely deeper than Kingston, which I don't use much. 87 patches to help you get started, but being able to draw your own waveforms with your finger is awesome!

    Yes, I've spent a lot of money in Gadget, but I can't recall ever regretting giving my money to Korg for their iOS products.

  • nice review :smile:

  • edited July 2016

    @gburks said:

    Ultimate solution would be midi out gadgets, or IAA gadgets, or even AU gadgets! I can't imagine the fun to be had with Gadget's sequencing and automation driving the rest of my apps.

    Every time Gadget grabs me back I just wish I could just get the sounds I want with this beautiful sequencer via midi plugged into the VSTs on my laptop. Midi out automation would be amazing but I would settle for just note and velocity out as a first pass.

    Anywho now that there is Gladstone and Madrid it would be great to have a plucked and strummed Gadget, acoustic/classical guitars, bangos, koto etc. I would love to see more things with a relatively small rompler footprint that sound organic and natural.

  • +1 for a guitar gadget, especially with a strumming interface!

  • @PhilW said:
    +1 for a guitar gadget, especially with a strumming interface!

    Oh snap! see? Thats why we hired you.

  • Someone tweeted about an easter egg little retro game in Kamata. I then found it too with the first thing I tried. Nothing too exciting though.

  • @StormJH1 said:
    Okay, I jumped for all three! Really impressed so far. I'm a guitar player and rock/indie music fan - I enjoy dabbling into synthesizers and some EDM, but Gladstone and Madrid by themselves finally give you a foundation for making legitimate backing tracks. And it's completely within the Gadget ecosystem, so if I wanted to add a synth pad or orchestral background, you have a full suite of great sounding instruments.

    Gladstone is 20 kits - about half of those are variations on a rock/pop drums, but there are some jazz kits and other unique touches, such as a drum kit that sounds like it was mic'ed from afar. Nothing revolutionary here - all of this probably could have been done in Bilbao, but $9.99 for 20 awesome sounding kits in a convenient interface isn't bad at all. These are immediately the best rock oriented drums in all of Gadget, despite the fact that there are several other rhythm based gadgets. (London is great, but very EDM).

    Madrid - I think this app can give iFretlessBass (my favorite for years) a real run for its money. Really nails the varying dynamics of a picked bass versus fingerstyle, and you have 6 amp options and a variety of effects, so each one can be tweaked even further. Another AWESOME feature is that that it has an envelope control, similar to an ADSR for a synth, but that can be applied to these modeled sounds of real instruments. That is going to be insanely useful for recording parts and tweaking the amount of low end saturation between each note.

    Kamata - I was on the fence about this one, but after realizing how much I liked the other two, it became a no-brainer. I like the idea of chiptune, but don't have great ideas how to use it (yet). But this gadget looks infinitely deeper than Kingston, which I don't use much. 87 patches to help you get started, but being able to draw your own waveforms with your finger is awesome!

    Yes, I've spent a lot of money in Gadget, but I can't recall ever regretting giving my money to Korg for their iOS products.

    Nicely done.

  • edited July 2016

    Anyone having problems purchasing / installing the Madrid gadget ? I purchased it , but it just says it needs to be restored every time I try to open it and it causes the whole app to freeze. I tried uninstalling / reinstalling gadget completely but still having the same issue. I also purchased the new chip tune gadget without any problem. :-/ Using iPad Air 2 64GB

  • I’ve just had a thought. I wonder if there’ll be a Kama-ta type Volca soon?

  • @loopingstar said:
    Anyone having problems purchasing / installing the Madrid gadget ? I purchased it , but it just says it needs to be restored every time I try to open it and it causes the whole app to freeze. I tried uninstalling / reinstalling gadget completely but still having the same issue. I also purchased the new chip tune gadget without any problem. :-/ Using iPad Air 2 64GB

    is it jailbroken?

  • @u0421793 said:
    I’ve just had a thought. I wonder if there’ll be a Kama-ta type Volca soon?

    I wonder if Kamata will be expanded with features or left as it is?

    One way to expand the possibilities would be to add a 'wave & pitch offset table' that could be stepped thru at a preset speed (say 1-200hz). By creating 'creative' wave-tables many different kinds of sounds could be created, anything from simple PWM to Percussion sounds. (This is a technique used on the C64 and NES and later on the Amiga in Future Compser among others). To get a 'not so harsh' sound add options for 8, 12 & 16-Bit waves in addition to the current 4-Bit wave and 'longer' wave-window (32-256 samples) for deeper bass and more harmonics.

    The Auto WAH IFX takes care of the lack of a dedicated filter in Kamata :)

    But the most fun part of Kamata is to mess with the waveform in realtime while the sound is already playing.
    It's one of the few synth I know of that is capable of this...

  • edited July 2016

    @Samu said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I’ve just had a thought. I wonder if there’ll be a Kama-ta type Volca soon?

    I wonder if Kamata will be expanded with features or left as it is?

    One way to expand the possibilities would be to add a 'wave & pitch offset table' that could be stepped thru at a preset speed (say 1-200hz). By creating 'creative' wave-tables many different kinds of sounds could be created, anything from simple PWM to Percussion sounds. (This is a technique used on the C64 and NES and later on the Amiga in Future Compser among others). To get a 'not so harsh' sound add options for 8, 12 & 16-Bit waves in addition to the current 4-Bit wave and 'longer' wave-window (32-256 samples) for deeper bass and more harmonics.

    The Auto WAH IFX takes care of the lack of a dedicated filter in Kamata :)

    But the most fun part of Kamata is to mess with the waveform in realtime while the sound is already playing.
    It's one of the few synth I know of that is capable of this...

    Korg only wants to serve you with simple green salad, but our Samu always want to order lobster that is not on the menu. I am so laughing at it. Anyway, happy to see you teach chef how to cooking.

  • @fishgutt said:

    @loopingstar said:
    Anyone having problems purchasing / installing the Madrid gadget ? I purchased it , but it just says it needs to be restored every time I try to open it and it causes the whole app to freeze. I tried uninstalling / reinstalling gadget completely but still having the same issue. I also purchased the new chip tune gadget without any problem. :-/ Using iPad Air 2 64GB

    is it jailbroken?

    No not jail broken ..........
    But oddly after an hour of messing around it's just started to work .........as if by magic

  • Kamata sounds are not the normal chiptune sounds I've come to hate. Their actually pretty good. Jon on iPadmusician did a demo.

    @loopingstar said:
    Anyone having problems purchasing / installing the Madrid gadget ? I purchased it , but it just says it needs to be restored every time I try to open it and it causes the whole app to freeze. I tried uninstalling / reinstalling gadget completely but still having the same issue. I also purchased the new chip tune gadget without any problem. :-/ Using iPad Air 2 64GB

    I got it to install after restoring all the other purchased gadgets.

  • I’m probably following my nerd instinct, but what I’d really like in Gadget is a kind of leaked engineering document that would indicate exactly what synthesis is going on behind those friendly and simplified interfaces. It is a bit like a collection of little digital point and shoot cameras, each with no manual control option, but all with very advanced creative modes. The manufacturers have done a powerful job of shielding the complexity from the masses in their automatic for the people.

  • edited July 2016

    I have had a couple of drinks, so forgive my typing :D
    Right, here it is, I uninstalled gadget a few months back, before the multi midi came in. And have ignored it since.
    After the two new gadgets that matter to me, acoustic bass and drums, I reinstalled, have had to delete some stuff to make room, which was why I deleted it in the first place.

    Made a wicked loop in about 5 mins. Enough said,
    I will never delete gadget again. B)
    The reason? No plumbing required.

  • @u0421793 said:
    I’m probably following my nerd instinct, but what I’d really like in Gadget is a kind of leaked engineering document that would indicate exactly what synthesis is going on behind those friendly and simplified interfaces. It is a bit like a collection of little digital point and shoot cameras, each with no manual control option, but all with very advanced creative modes. The manufacturers have done a powerful job of shielding the complexity from the masses in their automatic for the people.

    +1 ... Exactly how is it every pure Gadget mix I produce sounds like a million bucks, production-wise, on EVERY playback system I own, from earbuds to car stereo to the deck speakers and back again? How do they do it?

    I suspect the fact they can do it is part of the reason we have no audio input options yet. Gadget's nifty little garden is every bit as walled as Apple's.

  • @Carnbot said:
    The new Gadget demos haven't really sold me however. I'll leave it for others to take them for a spin....

    Get Kamata :).

  • edited July 2016

    @eustressor said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I’m probably following my nerd instinct, but what I’d really like in Gadget is a kind of leaked engineering document that would indicate exactly what synthesis is going on behind those friendly and simplified interfaces. It is a bit like a collection of little digital point and shoot cameras, each with no manual control option, but all with very advanced creative modes. The manufacturers have done a powerful job of shielding the complexity from the masses in their automatic for the people.

    +1 ... Exactly how is it every pure Gadget mix I produce sounds like a million bucks, production-wise, on EVERY playback system I own, from earbuds to car stereo to the deck speakers and back again? How do they do it?

    I suspect the fact they can do it is part of the reason we have no audio input options yet. Gadget's nifty little garden is every bit as walled as Apple's.

    Yes, I'd like to know that as well, but for now all I know is that I have rediscovered with gadget I start a new blank song, and get something I like going very quickly with no fuss, the fuss starts when I want to use gadget with other things, or replace sounds in gadget with something else.
    I am sure Modstep will do this for me, I am yet to try this, as I have switched from gadget to Modstep, instead of trying to use use the two together.
    Previously I thought that gadget put me on rails, and that pad style triggering freed me from that, and the pads do free me, but the work to get stuff on the pads is highly involved and detracts from the creative flow. This flow is improving all the time with apps like blocs wave, but is still very slow.
    I personally need to find the right balance, and to find when to swap from gadget to Modstep and do the plumbing, and then programming of the synths I want to drive. And then when to go to trying to put stuff on the audio pads in launchpad. And also the secret sauce that gadget applies, Korg know how to build a tonestack, so it has got to be in there somewhere, but must be achievable with automated mastering, if indeed it is in there, or is it just the environment that makes things easier and therefore needing less fiddling with afterwards.
    I am sure I would not have this problem if I was working with hardware solely.

    Question is, is this a nice problem to have ?

  • @PhilW said:
    +1 for a guitar gadget, especially with a strumming interface!

    Send Guitarism as midi into Gadget - it sounds great.

  • Finally bought gadget. Dang. Should've done that a lot sooner. Coolest app I think I've ever used.

  • Gadget is so easy to use that my 6 year old daughter wrote and performed this song all by herself. I just helped with the uploading to Soundcloud. Is it a masterpiece? No. But can you imagine what the next generation is going to be able to create if they can already get started with Gadget at age six?

  • @Seangarland said:
    Gadget is so easy to use that my 6 year old daughter wrote and performed this song all by herself. I just helped with the uploading to Soundcloud. Is it a masterpiece? No. But can you imagine what the next generation is going to be able to create if they can already get started with Gadget at age six?

    Sign her up! We expect an SOTMC entry from her in August :)

  • @Seangarland said:
    Gadget is so easy to use that my 6 year old daughter wrote and performed this song all by herself. I just helped with the uploading to Soundcloud. Is it a masterpiece? No. But can you imagine what the next generation is going to be able to create if they can already get started with Gadget at age six?

    That is killer! What the hell was that ascending thing at the end??? Economy, mystery, brevity.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:

    @Seangarland said:
    Gadget is so easy to use that my 6 year old daughter wrote and performed this song all by herself. I just helped with the uploading to Soundcloud. Is it a masterpiece? No. But can you imagine what the next generation is going to be able to create if they can already get started with Gadget at age six?

    That is killer! What the hell was that ascending thing at the end??? Economy, mystery, brevity.

    She did that by just drawing a pattern in the grid. I'm totally stealing that idea for a future track. Same thing with the Pump automation in Brussels. She figured out how to slide it from far left to far right, and went with it.

    Sometimes I think we overthink things sometimes...

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