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Korg Gadget update including 3 new Gadgets

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  • @Samu said:

    @Seangarland said:

    Step recording would be great. I for one will contact KORG to suggest this. Maybe others will to?

    I made a quite detailed request about step-recording over at the Korg Forums some time ago :)
    https://support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/207472326-Gadget-Step-Recording-

    Maybe the way forward is to ask for an integration of SunVox’s tracker, as an alternative to the arpeggiator.

  • @u0421793 said:

    @Samu said:

    @Seangarland said:

    Step recording would be great. I for one will contact KORG to suggest this. Maybe others will to?

    I made a quite detailed request about step-recording over at the Korg Forums some time ago :)
    https://support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/207472326-Gadget-Step-Recording-

    Maybe the way forward is to ask for an integration of SunVox’s tracker, as an alternative to the arpeggiator.

    Or a programmable function-generator with modulatable parameters for generating waveforms :)

    But yeah, the arpeggiator would be nice with programmable patterns :D (Just select a few notes or chords and select 'copy2arp').

  • @oat_phipps said:
    Tha Kamata is not as chip-tuney as it seems. There are some cool sounds to be had. And yeah, the interface rules.

    yah they can be smoothed out a bit into interesting things. Plays well with Shoom i find.

  • I really like the Kamata pitch envelope and LFO options. Combine with glide and there are some really fun possibilities.

  • @wim said:
    I really like the Kamata pitch envelope and LFO options. Combine with glide and there are some really fun possibilities.

    Oh god I didn't even realize there were more options when you hit the Start button again, thanks.

  • @oat_phipps said:
    Tha Kamata is not as chip-tuney as it seems. There are some cool sounds to be had. And yeah, the interface rules.

    I take your point…

  • @rhcball lol.

    For those interested, Korg has updated the in-app manual with the three new gadgets. Very rudimentary info though.

  • @R_2 said:
    @rhcball lol.

    For those interested, Korg has updated the in-app manual with the three new gadgets. Very rudimentary info though.

    Yeah i consulted it to see how to remove a marker in Abu & was not rewarded for my effort

  • @rhcball said:

    @R_2 said:
    @rhcball lol.

    For those interested, Korg has updated the in-app manual with the three new gadgets. Very rudimentary info though.

    Yeah i consulted it to see how to remove a marker in Abu & was not rewarded for my effort

    You can't. Annoyingly you have to move all the markers to the right.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @rhcball said:

    @R_2 said:
    @rhcball lol.

    For those interested, Korg has updated the in-app manual with the three new gadgets. Very rudimentary info though.

    Yeah i consulted it to see how to remove a marker in Abu & was not rewarded for my effort

    You can't. Annoyingly you have to move all the markers to the right.

    I swear I made one disappear once and can't figure out how i did it. Could have been hallucinating but I think I was sober at the time.

  • edited July 2016

    @rhcball said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @rhcball said:

    @R_2 said:
    @rhcball lol.

    For those interested, Korg has updated the in-app manual with the three new gadgets. Very rudimentary info though.

    Yeah i consulted it to see how to remove a marker in Abu & was not rewarded for my effort

    You can't. Annoyingly you have to move all the markers to the right.

    I swear I made one disappear once and can't figure out how i did it. Could have been hallucinating but I think I was sober at the time.

    If you drag it into another one then visually it disappears - or to the extreme right hand side. But ultimately there's 16 pads and 16 slices.

  • Gadget still needs a 'Keybard Sampler' that supports multi-samples/splits with layers and basic synthesis such as pitch, amp & filter with envelopes and LFOs preferably per layer/sample spiced with two selectable effects and offcourse sampling and editing.

    Don"t mind if the UI is a separate app as long as there is a patch-playback Gadget in Gadget...

  • @Samu said:
    Gadget still needs a 'Keybard Sampler' that supports multi-samples/splits with layers and basic synthesis such as pitch, amp & filter with envelopes and LFOs preferably per layer/sample spiced with two selectable effects and offcourse sampling and editing.

    Don"t mind if the UI is a separate app as long as there is a patch-playback Gadget in Gadget...

    Are you a member of the landed gentry? Who has enough life left on earth to not only load samples but LAYER them, my god

  • @rhcball said:

    >

    Are you a member of the landed gentry? Who has enough life left on earth to not only load samples but LAYER them, my god

    Yepp! So far 'Kiev' is the closest we get without using multiple Gadgets but it doesn't accept user samples yet :D

  • I want to sit down with the Gadget boys and show them how I've completely overdone & abused the grain slice effect & see if that inspires them to add more glitch-type modulationisms.

  • edited July 2016

    I finally caved and bought module (I love anything mellotron). It's integration with gadget is awesome, I thought Marseille fit my needs but these sounds are really nice.

  • edited July 2016

    Love the option in Madrid to have taller note keys and I hope it gets rolled out to all gadgets. Nothing worse than having your take ruined by missing the mark on those tiny keys.

  • @Lady_App_titude said:
    Love the option in Madrid to have taller note keys and I hope it gets rolled out to all gadgets. Nothing worse than having your take ruined by missing the mark on those tiny keys.

    Yep, and if not only for size the Madrid keys are 'velocity sensitive' on the vertical axis something tha no other Gadget 'Gadget' has yet...

  • Finally, a clip of Kamata that shows a lot more of its potential, beyond the rather twee chip tune videos so far:

    Still seems a bit limited, though, in terms of the lack of a filter or deeper modulation. Is there no way to cycle through wave types via an LFO? Or can this perhaps be automated? My finger is constantly hovering over the purchase button but, even at the discount price, it seems a bit much for a relatively simplistic gadget.

  • @sleepless said:
    Finally, a clip of Kamata that shows a lot more of its potential, beyond the rather twee chip tune videos so far:

    Still seems a bit limited, though, in terms of the lack of a filter or deeper modulation. Is there no way to cycle through wave types via an LFO? Or can this perhaps be automated? My finger is constantly hovering over the purchase button but, even at the discount price, it seems a bit much for a relatively simplistic gadget.

    You can use the IFX filter, if you really need a filter.

  • @sleepless said:
    Finally, a clip of Kamata that shows a lot more of its potential, beyond the rather twee chip tune videos so far:

    Still seems a bit limited, though, in terms of the lack of a filter or deeper modulation. Is there no way to cycle through wave types via an LFO? Or can this perhaps be automated? My finger is constantly hovering over the purchase button but, even at the discount price, it seems a bit much for a relatively simplistic gadget.

    I decided to go for it. I was initially underwhelmed, but I'm now starting to see a bit more of it's potential. There is cheese there (galore), but I suspect it may do some far more interesting things...

  • @sleepless said:
    Or can this perhaps be automated? My finger is constantly hovering over the purchase button but, even at the discount price, it seems a bit much for a relatively simplistic gadget.

    You can 'record' the waveform-changes (ie. it sets all of the 32 cc-controllers in the automation lane to the values that the wave represents the wave you select). It's also possible to record the 'drawing' of he wave in realtime to create some animation. Or for some mayhem just automate a few of the points in the wave by drawing automation-lanes for the point you wan't to move :)

    It's a bit tricky though to 'draw' the entire wave for each step even at slowish tempos (hence the request for improved step-recording for Gadget).

    Over all of the newly released Gadgets Kamata is my favourite of the 3 new Gadgets, Madrid has a feature i wished all Gadgets would get (extended keys with vertical velocity) and Gladstone has pretty good acoustic material for making old school breaks...

    Being a recovering AppJunkie i don't regret at all getting the Gadgets...

  • edited July 2016

    Those Madrid ´ basses are incredibles.Gadget is almost as good as a full daw now .If i had known that gadget would be so complete ,it would have been the only app i bought and it would have broken this Appoholism.An IM of Marseille and an IV of Salzburg Would be enough to get High . o:) >:)

  • edited July 2016

    @Samu said:

    @sleepless said:
    Or can this perhaps be automated? My finger is constantly hovering over the purchase button but, even at the discount price, it seems a bit much for a relatively simplistic gadget.

    You can 'record' the waveform-changes (ie. it sets all of the 32 cc-controllers in the automation lane to the values that the wave represents the wave you select). It's also possible to record the 'drawing' of he wave in realtime to create some animation. Or for some mayhem just automate a few of the points in the wave by drawing automation-lanes for the point you wan't to move :)

    It's a bit tricky though to 'draw' the entire wave for each step even at slowish tempos (hence the request for improved step-recording for Gadget).

    Over all of the newly released Gadgets Kamata is my favourite of the 3 new Gadgets, Madrid has a feature i wished all Gadgets would get (extended keys with vertical velocity) and Gladstone has pretty good acoustic material for making old school breaks...

    Being a recovering AppJunkie i don't regret at all getting the Gadgets...

    So, any tips on how to make Kamata sound as much like some of my spacey Animoog patches as possible? (I know, I know, only Animoog sounds like Animoog).

    Animoog often cycles through waveforms doesn't it? (Plus has that great detune, delay, crush and filter - but Gadget can now cover the last three with its iFX).

    I wonder if the wave table selector in Kamata (rather than the drawing tool) has a cc? Then you could point MidiLFOs at that. Or maybe that 'envelopes' midi app (klivet?)

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Samu said:

    @sleepless said:
    Or can this perhaps be automated? My finger is constantly hovering over the purchase button but, even at the discount price, it seems a bit much for a relatively simplistic gadget.

    You can 'record' the waveform-changes (ie. it sets all of the 32 cc-controllers in the automation lane to the values that the wave represents the wave you select). It's also possible to record the 'drawing' of he wave in realtime to create some animation. Or for some mayhem just automate a few of the points in the wave by drawing automation-lanes for the point you wan't to move :)

    It's a bit tricky though to 'draw' the entire wave for each step even at slowish tempos (hence the request for improved step-recording for Gadget).

    Over all of the newly released Gadgets Kamata is my favourite of the 3 new Gadgets, Madrid has a feature i wished all Gadgets would get (extended keys with vertical velocity) and Gladstone has pretty good acoustic material for making old school breaks...

    Being a recovering AppJunkie i don't regret at all getting the Gadgets...

    So, any tips on how to make Kamata sound as much like some of my spacey Animoog patches as possible? (I know, I know, only Animoog sounds like Animoog).

    Animoog often cycles through waveforms doesn't it? (Plus has that great detune, delay, crush and filter - but Gadget can now cover the last three with its iFX).

    I wonder if the wave table selector in Kamata (rather than the drawing tool) has a cc? Then you could point MidiLFOs at that. Or maybe that 'envelopes' midi app (klivet?)

    Based on my rudimentary knowledge of CC's, I do believe the wave table should be able to be controlled that way. After all, I can use the KAOSS pad on the nanoKEYStudio to draw the wavetables (it's actually premapped by the nanoKEYStudio). Let me check it out. I think I can find the CC in the editor.

  • @Seangarland said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Samu said:

    @sleepless said:
    Or can this perhaps be automated? My finger is constantly hovering over the purchase button but, even at the discount price, it seems a bit much for a relatively simplistic gadget.

    You can 'record' the waveform-changes (ie. it sets all of the 32 cc-controllers in the automation lane to the values that the wave represents the wave you select). It's also possible to record the 'drawing' of he wave in realtime to create some animation. Or for some mayhem just automate a few of the points in the wave by drawing automation-lanes for the point you wan't to move :)

    It's a bit tricky though to 'draw' the entire wave for each step even at slowish tempos (hence the request for improved step-recording for Gadget).

    Over all of the newly released Gadgets Kamata is my favourite of the 3 new Gadgets, Madrid has a feature i wished all Gadgets would get (extended keys with vertical velocity) and Gladstone has pretty good acoustic material for making old school breaks...

    Being a recovering AppJunkie i don't regret at all getting the Gadgets...

    So, any tips on how to make Kamata sound as much like some of my spacey Animoog patches as possible? (I know, I know, only Animoog sounds like Animoog).

    Animoog often cycles through waveforms doesn't it? (Plus has that great detune, delay, crush and filter - but Gadget can now cover the last three with its iFX).

    I wonder if the wave table selector in Kamata (rather than the drawing tool) has a cc? Then you could point MidiLFOs at that. Or maybe that 'envelopes' midi app (klivet?)

    Based on my rudimentary knowledge of CC's, I do believe the wave table should be able to be controlled that way. After all, I can use the KAOSS pad on the nanoKEYStudio to draw the wavetables (it's actually premapped by the nanoKEYStudio). Let me check it out. I think I can find the CC in the editor.

    Rereading your post, I may have misunderstood what you are looking for. The KAOSS Pad, which allows you to draw the wavetable in Kamata, is mapped to CC 18 on my nanoKEYStudio. But I don't think there is a way (that I've found) to switch between the different wave banks).

  • That's really interesting.

    I think, again, (like the transport controls on the NanoKontrolStudio) that's the NanoKeyStudio doing something special in native mode.

    I don't think it's using cc18 - because if you look that's just mapped to p-bend range in Kamata. (And anyway wouldnt it be mapped to both an X and a Y cc?)

    To redraw the wave you'd need to address all 16 different midi CCs that are assigned to the 16 columns of the wave in Gadget. So your xy pad is doing some clever (non midi) stuff I suspect.

    Also, you're right, there's no way to cycle through the preset waves. That control is not mapped to any cc. (And also it sounds really jumpy doing it).

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    That's really interesting.

    I think, again, (like the transport controls on the NanoKontrolStudio) that's the NanoKeyStudio doing something special in native mode.

    I don't think it's using cc18 - because if you look that's just mapped to p-bend range in Kamata. (And anyway wouldnt it be mapped to both an X and a Y cc?)

    To redraw the wave you'd need to address all 16 different midi CCs that are assigned to the 16 columns of the wave in Gadget. So your xy pad is doing some clever (non midi) stuff I suspect.

    Also, you're right, there's no way to cycle through the preset waves. That control is not mapped to any cc. (And also it sounds really jumpy doing it).

    It's very possible that I have no idea what I'm talking about. The nanoKEYStudio midi mapping is a bit of a mystery to me, and I'm still learning how to use the editor. I'm not much when it comes to MIDI implementation, so I'm not sure how much help I can be here.

  • Not at all. Thank you...

    It makes sense that the xy pad would be mapped to a couple of midi CCs for general use. But when plugged into Gadget I think the NanoKeyStudio does some other special stuff and drawing the wave form in Kamata is a good example.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    So, any tips on how to make Kamata sound as much like some of my spacey Animoog patches as possible? (I know, I know, only Animoog sounds like Animoog).

    Nope, I think Kiev would be a better choice for that since Kamata doesn't do any 'fade ins/outs' when jumping between waves. Then again Kiev doesn't allow custom samples and on top of that is limited to 4 waves...

    On the other hand I've been trying to make Animoog sound like 'wave sequences' on the Korg Wavestation but the path-editor leaves a lot to be desired for for detailed tweaking. For this it would be better to have a list with wave-index and time :D

    Too many options make one loose focus...

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