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SkRaM update today :)

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  • I hope that the developers enthusiasm isn't dampened by a small vocal minority. I think that SKRAM is a wonderful app, one of my persona faves. Sure, so it doesn't fit into the generic 'mold' of what we expect from iOS music apps and it's not really 'pro' software for live use, but it's lot of fun to boot it up and play and more than usable in a production environment. Love it's polyrhythmic nature too, I've been using it for practising that style of playing on my 'real' instruments.

  • For people complaining, have you tried running this through audiobus via AUM and using ableton link to sync it up with other apps? You can get pretty incredible results this way. Try running Skram through some FX, it really expands on the sounds it can deliver, but I find running it this way means limiting the number of modules I use. So instead of running four different modules run double instances of two modules to double the patterns you can use. Control your drums with another app, and then record it all into your favorite audiobus output. It's pretty awesome.

  • So far I'm happy with the update, but it's lame you made it free after many of us bought in to support you at a special "launch price". Now you're just giving it all away for free?!

  • @skiphunt said:
    So far I'm happy with the update, but it's lame you made it free after many of us bought in to support you at a special "launch price". Now you're just giving it all away for free?!

    Maybe it's a sale?

  • @High5denied said:

    @skiphunt said:
    So far I'm happy with the update, but it's lame you made it free after many of us bought in to support you at a special "launch price". Now you're just giving it all away for free?!

    Maybe it's a sale?

    If it's not a sale id expect the reasoning to be lost enthusiasm behind developing it. Hope that's not the case.

  • I think they've changed the model to freemium with IAP's in this release, but they are giving away the new modules for a limited time. Honestly, I would have been okay with charging with the new IAP's. I love this little app. :smile:

  • @Nkersov @liine_nick the app fails to record standalone but does successfully record in an IAA host app from within Skram so clearly the Skram recording function in standalone is broken. The Skram development team could benefit from having a better beta testing program so that updates aren't released with major flaws such as this.

  • Thank you @liine_nick for the update.... I can record and it gets saved.
    And for the new apps
    Air 2 9.3.3

  • @soundklinik said:
    Thank you @liine_nick for the update.... I can record and it gets saved.
    And for the new apps
    Air 2 9.3.3

    Ok, I think the recording bug is due to the iOS 9.3.3 update that was released after we submitted. I recommend you stick to iOS 9.3.2 for the moment.

  • @InfoCheck said:
    @Nkersov @liine_nick the app fails to record standalone but does successfully record in an IAA host app from within Skram so clearly the Skram recording function in standalone is broken. The Skram development team could benefit from having a better beta testing program so that updates aren't released with major flaws such as this.

    Recording works fine here

    Perhaps you could benefit from not making sweeping statements when we don't know if this bug only appears on very specific combinations of hardware and iOS versions

  • @echoopera said:
    I think they've changed the model to freemium with IAP's in this release, but they are giving away the new modules for a limited time. Honestly, I would have been okay with charging with the new IAP's. I love this little app. :smile:

    I suspect this is the case they probably figured most people getting the update have already paid about the price of what the new modules will end up costing, so in effect it's a way of saving early adopters money. Hopefully this mean future focus will just be on increasing modules and widgets.

  • Mine records, audiocopies & pastes.

  • @liine_nick said:

    @soundklinik said:
    Thank you @liine_nick for the update.... I can record and it gets saved.
    And for the new apps
    Air 2 9.3.3

    Ok, I think the recording bug is due to the iOS 9.3.3 update that was released after we submitted. I recommend you stick to iOS 9.3.2 for the moment.

    Nope. I'm on 9.3.2 and recording doesn't work for me either, I don't care much though because I'd much rather record through AUM anyway.

  • edited July 2016

    @liine_nick said:

    @soundklinik said:
    Thank you @liine_nick for the update.... I can record and it gets saved.
    And for the new apps
    Air 2 9.3.3

    Ok, I think the recording bug is due to the iOS 9.3.3 update that was released after we submitted. I recommend you stick to iOS 9.3.2 for the moment.

    But I am on latest iOS and it works, tried few times.
    Nice new synths...many thanks for those too.

  • @liine_nick said:

    @soundklinik said:
    Thank you @liine_nick for the update.... I can record and it gets saved.
    And for the new apps
    Air 2 9.3.3

    Ok, I think the recording bug is due to the iOS 9.3.3 update that was released after we submitted. I recommend you stick to iOS 9.3.2 for the moment.

    That's probably it, because I'm backpacking and didn't update yet in case it doesn't go well. Still running 9.3.2 and it records/copies/pastes for me.

  • That's a good list @InfoCheck Not sure how many fit into their long play, but time will tell. I vote for 5, 7 and 8. I can't see the AU thing happening as an included feature of Skram, but I don't see why they couldn't spin each of the instruments out as individual AUs for cheap, as a way to support ongoing development. I'd buy some.

    In the meantime, I appreciate the new instruments and look forward to more pack IAPs. I'm more into the jamming aspect of this app, so I'm probably a little more forgiving than usual as regards the other features that haven't made it in yet.

    I'm actually looking forward to showing it to the little monster now and stealthily teaching him a bit of rhythm and music theory. The scratchy illustrations are superfluous but very helpful in this regard. Skram actually fills a gap in the app store for his age group— not cutesy and not too complex.

    A few things, though, while I'm here.

    1. Please do make the buttons further apart vertically. Are you saving room for more buttons to come? BTW— I can see how it might be hard to fit an AB menu onto this interface without covering something important.
    2. Can't get last session to reopen. Always goes to the demo no matter what.
    3. It would be nice to have up to four sections per instrument rather than just two, and to have the option to chain and/or disable them. Chaining would really help in avoiding overly repetitive loops, but I can see how it could cause problems as well.
    4. Update the graphics of three of the four older instruments. Boring. At least, that's what monster will say.
  • I'm on 9.3.3 and recording works for me, both standalone and IAA. Air 1

  • @liine_nick said:

    @soundklinik said:
    Thank you @liine_nick for the update.... I can record and it gets saved.
    And for the new apps
    Air 2 9.3.3

    Ok, I think the recording bug is due to the iOS 9.3.3 update that was released after we submitted. I recommend you stick to iOS 9.3.2 for the moment.

    The bug is not due to iOS 9.3.3 I was able to get the app to record successfully on an iPad Air 2 running iOS 9.3.3.

    On an iPad Mini 2 running iOS 9.3.3 I was able to record within an IAA host but not in standalone mode even after deleting and reinstalling Skram. It maybe a bug due to a combination of iOS 9.3.3 and specific devices.

  • @aaronpc my wish list might not be consistent with their vision or perhaps another app or IAP might be the way to go. I do think their instruments would be perfect as AU.

  • I'm on on a mini2 with 9.3.3 and can record, so the rabbit hole gets deeper.

  • @jn2002dk said:

    @InfoCheck said:
    @Nkersov @liine_nick the app fails to record standalone but does successfully record in an IAA host app from within Skram so clearly the Skram recording function in standalone is broken. The Skram development team could benefit from having a better beta testing program so that updates aren't released with major flaws such as this.

    Recording works fine here

    Perhaps you could benefit from not making sweeping statements when we don't know if this bug only appears on very specific combinations of hardware and iOS versions

    Amen.

  • @jn2002dk said:

    @InfoCheck said:
    @Nkersov @liine_nick the app fails to record standalone but does successfully record in an IAA host app from within Skram so clearly the Skram recording function in standalone is broken. The Skram development team could benefit from having a better beta testing program so that updates aren't released with major flaws such as this.

    Recording works fine here

    Perhaps you could benefit from not making sweeping statements when we don't know if this bug only appears on very specific combinations of hardware and iOS versions

    The benefit of good beta testers is they can test apps in a wide variety of devices under real world conditions. For people having those devices where major new features don't work, it's viewed as a major flaw. Hopefully the Skram development team will be able to track the bug down and fix it using the information we provide here as well as from other user feedback. Ideally it would have been better to catch it before release with feedback from good beta testing.

  • @funjunkie27 said:
    I'm on on a mini2 with 9.3.3 and can record, so the rabbit hole gets deeper.

    Can you record standalone as well?

  • Yes....I haven't tried any other way but standalone.

  • @brice said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @InfoCheck said:
    @Nkersov @liine_nick the app fails to record standalone but does successfully record in an IAA host app from within Skram so clearly the Skram recording function in standalone is broken. The Skram development team could benefit from having a better beta testing program so that updates aren't released with major flaws such as this.

    Recording works fine here

    Perhaps you could benefit from not making sweeping statements when we don't know if this bug only appears on very specific combinations of hardware and iOS versions

    Amen.

    My thinking is developers appreciate delivering apps that work as much as we appreciate them working. Beta testing is a way to achieve a common goal.

  • edited July 2016

    @funjunkie27 said:
    Yes....I haven't tried any other way but standalone.

    That is a very bizarre bug. I can't recall having any other music app where recording failed in the standalone app yet worked in IAA. I have a wi-fi iPad Mini 2 and recording works fine in both AUM and Cubasis. Really not sure what I could try next to isolate the source of the bug I'm experiencing.

  • Recording here fine (Pro/Latest).

    Thanks for the update. This is -as said- a little different. Feels like a jam thing and while that's not my thing with this thing it's a fun thing. Keep up the good work.

  • edited July 2016

    @InfoCheck said:

    @jn2002dk said:

    @InfoCheck said:
    @Nkersov @liine_nick the app fails to record standalone but does successfully record in an IAA host app from within Skram so clearly the Skram recording function in standalone is broken. The Skram development team could benefit from having a better beta testing program so that updates aren't released with major flaws such as this.

    Recording works fine here

    Perhaps you could benefit from not making sweeping statements when we don't know if this bug only appears on very specific combinations of hardware and iOS versions

    The benefit of good beta testers is they can test apps in a wide variety of devices under real world conditions. For people having those devices where major new features don't work, it's viewed as a major flaw. Hopefully the Skram development team will be able to track the bug down and fix it using the information we provide here as well as from other user feedback. Ideally it would have been better to catch it before release with feedback from good beta testing.

    I know what beta testers do and i'm sure the Skram devs knows as well. That's completely besides the point. If you were genuinely interested in just reporting the bug then you would have reported it along with your device model and iOS version and left it at that. Making sweeping statement about their testing process based on a bug that seems limited to specific setups is quite condescending in my opinion

  • edited July 2016

    moving on...

    @liine_nick As you add more instruments, their color and style should carry over to the sequencer side's background graphics. If all four are turned around, it's easy to get confused as to which one you're about to adjust. There are only so many colors in the color palette, so having the paint spatters and dribbles etc. follow you over would be helpful.

  • @OscarSouth said:
    I hope that the developers enthusiasm isn't dampened by a small vocal minority.

    >

    Hang on a minute, these guys sold us the app at a 'special' rate, promised a lot, couldn't be bothered to admit they wouldn't be adding AudioBus....and then made the app freemium. It's my enthusiasm that's dampened!

    Sure, every app has its bugs, and wish lists, etc, and we all do our bit to be patient, supportive and spread the word. But, the developer eventually has to deliver. Skram didn't come up with the goods, from my POV. Others will disagree, and I wish them and Skram's developers all the best.

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