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or, it's just an app, and next month there will be 100 others to pick apart instead of making music with the the parts that don't need to be picked. Go outside and tell a squirrel to f**k off and SKRAM and all will be well.
I went outside and a squirrel told me to fuck off, apparently the washing line I put up was made of the wrong material and felt a little uncomfortable as he raced along it on his little paws. He was able to use it but not quite in the way he imagined.
Bang on @brice
I'll just try to step around all the little piles of judginess on the floor. :-)
Anyhoo, great update @liine_nick. Love the sounds. It's really fun to play with. With IAA magic moments can now be captured. :-). Link is very much welcomed. Keep it up. State saving seems like a must. Recording gui movements would be awesome.
How embarrassing for me. That squirrel was mine. I sent her t-shirt shopping and it appears to have backfired.
Just saw an update for Skram and realized I was using the previous version when I was testing the recording. No idea why the update took so long to hit for me, but when I read about the update, I reinstalled and assumed I got the update. Retested the recording and it is broke on my mini 2 on 9.3.3 also.
Played with the update for a good forty minutes on the train and it was nice to link it to Blocs but by the end I was left with the same feeling I had with the first release. I wish I could have recorded the four widgets seperately for later mixing. Without that I just don't see paying for any of the future widgets which is a shame as they sound neat, are super fun and work really well together. But alas I just don't want to record them all together into one file.
I'm with you on this. Doing it Figure style would work - recording sequences, then rendering out separate tracks, one at a time while muting the other three. But exporting loops, or having 4 audio outs would be even better.
Thank you for the update. It's working fine for me. Air1 and 9.3.3
yah it wasn't impossible to audiocopy bits into blocs by muting / unmuting and if I were bored in an airport somewhere sure why not, but for daily commuting there are just so many app options.
I'm confused....can't you just mute 3 instruments at a time and record your individual files that way? So you end up with 4 individual files to later mix...?
Yes, I did do this with audiocopy and blocs, but the clunky workflow and inability to manipulate things in tandem on the fly makes it too cumbersome. Where Skram excels for me is in the ability to get many fingers on fast with multiple parameters of different widgets at once and manipulate them in realtime. Layering one widget at a time just doesn't capture that organic quality I like about it. I have plenty of 'make isolated loop' options with other apps.
Ahh, okay, you confused me when you said you wish you could have recorded the four widgets separately for later mixing. I see what you're wishing Skram was able to do now, and I agree that would make it a much more flexible spontaneous creation machine. Perhaps in the future.
On my iPad Mini 2, the IAA recording works without any issues, hopefully Liine will sort it out for the standalone recording on the iPad Mini 2.
You're welcome to express an opinion as much as anybody else. I've been supportive of Liine for many years on iOS and they will sort this out.
I believe having a broken recording function on their app is a major flaw because:
1. The app is designed to appeal to casual music users who may not use it as an IAA app.
2. The biggest request was to be able to record, copy, and paste recordings for the app.
3. They've had almost five months to update the app.
4. Other new features they've added were more complex than the recording function and work well so this may have been something the developers could have easily fixed in beta testing.
5. An iPad Mini 2 is an iOS device the app was supposed to be compatible with and for all those people who have such a device who want to record, it's a downgrade rather than an update because they could at least record and email the recordings without needing any other programs before the update. For people who use IAA, this will not be an issue.
Was I surprised the Skram standalone recording didn't work on the iPad Mini 2 and will I lose sleep over it? Yes and no.
Am I personally pleased with the update overall? Yes
Do I know anything about the status of the Skram beta test program or if they even have one? No
Have other developers had apps with bugs and received support from Audiobus forum users to beta test for them? Yes
Could this have been a bug caused by iOS 9.3.3 on specific devices which was released after they submitted the Skram app update and therefore beyond the developer's control? Maybe
If Liine can fix this bug in a week or two, that seems reasonable, if it takes another 5 months that would be surprising.
Hi everybody,
Thanks for all the feedback. From what we can tell so far, the recording bug does seem limited to iOS 9.3.3, which was released during the Skram submission process. Hang tight, we're looking into this.
Nicolas
Thank you @liine_nick the update is great overall. I have no recording issues on an iPad Air 2 running iOS 9.3 3 and an iPad Mini 2 on iOS 9.3.3 records fine in IAA apps using Skram's recording functions but fails to record anything in standalone mode.
Just to be perfectly clear, could you please confirm which of these cases work for you and which fail:
Standalone recording on iPad Air 2 running iOS 9.3.3 Works
IAA recording on iPad Air 2 running iOS 9.3.3 Works
Perfect, thanks
Is it possible to save a project? Can't find anything!
As well as save a project. I can't find a way load a new one. When I come out of Skram, then reload the app, it goes back to the default.
Thx! Also great that it has Ableton Link And I'll never complain about free stuff as some others like to do...
Some people purchased the app as early as March before the current update. I'm confident Liine will fix the recording bug. Skram is their first audio based iOS app whereas Lemur is a controller app so it's understandable there have been some growing pains. Successful companies learn from their experiences. While not perfect, overall I'm happy with the app's development, others can see it differently.
One person's complaint may be another's attempt to let the developer know what they'd like to see happen with the app. Liine gets to decide what they want to do in response which I'm sure is influenced by downloads and many other factors I'm unaware of.
It's also clear Liine plans to sell instruments for the Skram app in the future and they'll take user feedback into account to maximize the desirability of the app as they move forward with it.
It appears it's free and I very much thank the developers for their kindness https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/skram-electronic-music-maker/id1085836793?mt=8
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The thing is @mannix, free is no use if it doesn't actually work.
_Months _of development for Skram, and messages asking early adopters to keep the faith, etc, in this the _AudioBus _forum, only to find AB has been left out. For sure by design, and despite knowing that virtually everyone here wanted it. Yes, it could be added at a later date, but frankly I get the feeling I've been sold a pup.
I just don't get why they'd release an update that has so many faults. Not just unanticipated IOS version bugs, by stuff like no way to save or load, modules failing to retain their position or settings, flaky recording, etc. It's a huge let down, and there really is no excuse for such a shoddy release, after so long.
Taking wisdom from the old tale of the angry lion with a thorn in it's paw, I can only imagine that somebody here is suffering from really bad diarrhea.
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Is that less painful than than the cringing butt kissing of other people?
Grabbed and put to work