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$35 Behringer launchpad knockoff with iPad novation launchpad!!

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  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @sonicreef said:
    not just iTunes, it also has AudioPaste support.

    @telecharge said:
    @sonicreef Are you working on any additional import options? It's currently just iTunes, yes? I know you said you were looking into AudioShare. Some cloud options would be welcome, too.

    I think audioshare would be a must, Use the iOS Filepicker as you get most of the standard ones with that, as @Samu will be more than happy to explain I am sure ;)

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @sonicreef said:
    they do. The lower 4 rows reflect the pads in the app, the top two rows let you select one of 8 fx for each session/side, the 3rd row triggers the effect (simulating 4 different x values), and the 4th row (not demo'ed in the video) lets you mute the respective tracks.

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @sonicreef said:
    check out the latest video posted on https://www.facebook.com/looptunes. This showcases the Launchpad support.

    I just checked out that video and I think i would find it hard to know what I was doing as the person in the vid is pressing unlit pads on the LP, so there is no indication as to what those pads will do.

    It would also be a good idea to match the pad colours to those in app pad (for LP Pro/MkII owners) as this really does help with knowing where you are within a bunch of loops.

    Yes I got that from the vid, BUT as the 3rd and 4th rows are not lit, it appears that there is nothing there if you press, so these would be missed by someone who was experimenting as opposed to doing a more practiced performance....
    Being able to color code the pads in app and on the LP really does help with navigation, especially if the app is in the background and you are relying purely on the LP hardware for orientation.

  • SamuSamu

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @sonicreef said:
    not just iTunes, it also has AudioPaste support.

    @telecharge said:
    @sonicreef Are you working on any additional import options? It's currently just iTunes, yes? I know you said you were looking into AudioShare. Some cloud options would be welcome, too.

    I think audioshare would be a must, Use the iOS Filepicker as you get most of the standard ones with that, as @Samu will be more than happy to explain I am sure ;)

    Actually I'm quite puzzled why developers overlook such a 'standard' feature that has been around since iOS8 and rely on 'iTunes FileSharing' which is practically useless if the iOS devices is the only device the user has or simply doesn't like to use iTunes for what ever reason that is. I only use iTunes for backups and keep all my content and apps/ipa's organised as they would not fit on any current iPad would need a +1TB iPad or so to have everything installed...

    Boycott iTunes Filesharing and promote iCloudDrive and if pre iOS8 support is needed add at least support for the standard iOS 'ShareSheet' that would allow 'Open In...' to send the file to another app. Don't get me started on AudioCopy.app :D

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    row 4 lights up the pads for the mute tracks, I just didn't mute anything in that video.
    row 3 doesn't light up, because I'm only lighting up pads that toggle, and the effect triggers only as long as you press the pad.

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @sonicreef said:
    they do. The lower 4 rows reflect the pads in the app, the top two rows let you select one of 8 fx for each session/side, the 3rd row triggers the effect (simulating 4 different x values), and the 4th row (not demo'ed in the video) lets you mute the respective tracks.

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @sonicreef said:
    check out the latest video posted on https://www.facebook.com/looptunes. This showcases the Launchpad support.

    I just checked out that video and I think i would find it hard to know what I was doing as the person in the vid is pressing unlit pads on the LP, so there is no indication as to what those pads will do.

    It would also be a good idea to match the pad colours to those in app pad (for LP Pro/MkII owners) as this really does help with knowing where you are within a bunch of loops.

    Yes I got that from the vid, BUT as the 3rd and 4th rows are not lit, it appears that there is nothing there if you press, so these would be missed by someone who was experimenting as opposed to doing a more practiced performance....
    Being able to color code the pads in app and on the LP really does help with navigation, especially if the app is in the background and you are relying purely on the LP hardware for orientation.

  • johnnjohnn

    @sonicreef said:

    @johnn said:

    @RustiK said:

    @kobamoto said:
    you can never have too many Novation products :)

    Looptunes has native MIDI support for Novation products as well.

    It even works great with my Launchkey controlling it with top pads and sliders while having my keyboard for synth apps.

    I just think it is a style thing. Loop Tunes checks all my boxes.

    I might have to get it. Can u do 1shots or "hold" on the pads?..and hit multiple pads simultaneously on the same row?

    yes, you can play multiple pads on the same row, as well as same column.
    You can't do one shots yet. I'll add that eventually, depending on demand.

    That be killer if u did. It seems like all the pads on loopers/clip launchers usually have those 3 options for each pad. 1 shot mode, loop mode and note hold.

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    I just added AudioShare import and export. Should be in the next build.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @sonicreef said:
    row 4 lights up the pads for the mute tracks, I just didn't mute anything in that video.
    row 3 doesn't light up, because I'm only lighting up pads that toggle, and the effect triggers only as long as you press the pad.

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @sonicreef said:
    they do. The lower 4 rows reflect the pads in the app, the top two rows let you select one of 8 fx for each session/side, the 3rd row triggers the effect (simulating 4 different x values), and the 4th row (not demo'ed in the video) lets you mute the respective tracks.

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @sonicreef said:
    check out the latest video posted on https://www.facebook.com/looptunes. This showcases the Launchpad support.

    I just checked out that video and I think i would find it hard to know what I was doing as the person in the vid is pressing unlit pads on the LP, so there is no indication as to what those pads will do.

    It would also be a good idea to match the pad colours to those in app pad (for LP Pro/MkII owners) as this really does help with knowing where you are within a bunch of loops.

    Yes I got that from the vid, BUT as the 3rd and 4th rows are not lit, it appears that there is nothing there if you press, so these would be missed by someone who was experimenting as opposed to doing a more practiced performance....
    Being able to color code the pads in app and on the LP really does help with navigation, especially if the app is in the background and you are relying purely on the LP hardware for orientation.

    Ahh OK I get the mute thing now.....although i still think that rather than 'not light up'/'light up' ...should be dim and bright.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @sonicreef said:
    I just added AudioShare import and export. Should be in the next build.

    Fantastic, thanks!

  • FlexinoodleFlexinoodle

    @sonicreef
    Does looptunes support Hercules P32, it would seem a match made in heaven ?

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @sonicreef said:
    I just added AudioShare import and export. Should be in the next build.

    May not be a huge thing for everyone else, but that will turn me into a buyer...

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    @Flexinoodle said:
    @sonicreef
    Does looptunes support Hercules P32, it would seem a match made in heaven ?

    I haven't made a mapping for it yet, since I don't have the controller. You can map it really easily though.

  • bigcatrikbigcatrik

    The computer I have won't run the current iTunes, but it does most of what I want it to do otherwise. Ironically, getting iPads and a ChromeBook has made it unnecessary to replace the computer.

    QUESTION:
    I have a LaunchPad Mini, which has "rocker" buttons that are rather stiff, and a LaunchPad Pro, which has "pad" buttons, so my question is -- what are the buttons like on the Behringer?

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @sonicreef said:
    I just added AudioShare import and export. Should be in the next build.

    May not be a huge thing for everyone else, but that will turn me into a buyer...

    i'm not too far behind, just waiting to see what kind of organic and interesting modulating fx are in it's future and side chain if any.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    internal resampling, in sync and on the fly to a pad of your choosing would be an extremely well received feature as would follow actions.

  • johnnjohnn

    @bigcatrik said:
    The computer I have won't run the current iTunes, but it does most of what I want it to do otherwise. Ironically, getting iPads and a ChromeBook has made it unnecessary to replace the computer.

    QUESTION:
    I have a LaunchPad Mini, which has "rocker" buttons that are rather stiff, and a LaunchPad Pro, which has "pad" buttons, so my question is -- what are the buttons like on the Behringer?

    I dont know, the only other pads I've used are on an akai MPk mini (sucks IMO) and the KING of all pad based machines.....the 1, the only ... THE MPC 2000xl (absolute best IMO) so based off of those, I actually like the pads on the tc64 a lot.

  • AmpifyxNovationAmpifyxNovation

    Just to be clear for those reading. Launchpad Pro has velocity senstive RGB pads using the same technology as the Ableton Push 2. The other products mentioned generally are not velocity senstive and sometimes only three colours (Red, Amber and Green).

    In terms of velocity, It is worth users comparing the differnce between the Akai MPC2000XL technology against the Launchpad Pro & Push 2 technology, as they are quite different. The Akai technology could be described as 'older' tech, but of course it's up to you to decide if you prefer that.

    // M

    p.s. if the akai tech is not older please feel free to correct me on the velocity mechanics they use as compared to Launchpad Pro and Push 2

    @johnn said:
    I dont know, the only other pads I've used are on an akai MPk mini (sucks IMO) and the KING of all pad based machines.....the 1, the only ... THE MPC 2000xl (absolute best IMO) so based off of those, I actually like the pads on the tc64 a lot.

  • bigcatrikbigcatrik

    A Novation engineer responded in some detail about the LauncPad Pro's pad technology in this thread:

    https://github.com/dvhdr/launchpad-pro/issues/6#issuecomment-144982889

    As for the LP Mini, I described its buttons as "rockers" since you need to press a bit offside rather than directly in the middle to make contact, unless you press fairly hard. A light press in the middle might not make contact at all. Someone who knows switches might know why (I've taken it apart and the LED sits right in the middle and it's impossible to trigger the buttons without the rubber pad on top).

    Of course there's always the trick of boiling the rubber pad, as detailed here, which I might resort to with my Mini:
    http://forum.launchpad-pro.com/viewtopic.php?pid=2618#p2618

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @bigcatrik said:
    A Novation engineer responded in some detail about the LauncPad Pro's pad technology in this thread:

    https://github.com/dvhdr/launchpad-pro/issues/6#issuecomment-144982889

    As for the LP Mini, I described its buttons as "rockers" since you need to press a bit offside rather than directly in the middle to make contact, unless you press fairly hard. A light press in the middle might not make contact at all. Someone who knows switches might know why (I've taken it apart and the LED sits right in the middle and it's impossible to trigger the buttons without the rubber pad on top).

    Of course there's always the trick of boiling the rubber pad, as detailed here, which I might resort to with my Mini:
    http://forum.launchpad-pro.com/viewtopic.php?pid=2618#p2618

    Thanks for this.

    Boiling the pads.

    Really very tempting and utterly terrifying.

  • johnnjohnn

    @blocsxnovation said:
    Just to be clear for those reading. Launchpad Pro has velocity senstive RGB pads using the same technology as the Ableton Push 2. The other products mentioned generally are not velocity senstive and sometimes only three colours (Red, Amber and Green).

    In terms of velocity, It is worth users comparing the differnce between the Akai MPC2000XL technology against the Launchpad Pro & Push 2 technology, as they are quite different. The Akai technology could be described as 'older' tech, but of course it's up to you to decide if you prefer that.

    // M

    p.s. if the akai tech is not older please feel free to correct me on the velocity mechanics they use as compared to Launchpad Pro and Push 2

    @johnn said:
    I dont know, the only other pads I've used are on an akai MPk mini (sucks IMO) and the KING of all pad based machines.....the 1, the only ... THE MPC 2000xl (absolute best IMO) so based off of those, I actually like the pads on the tc64 a lot.

    Wow dude! Thanks for responding to a post that wasn't intended for you. Maybe you'll respond to my other inquiries about blocs wave sample packs not being labeled to tell us if they are loop master packs or ninja tune????(DOUBT IT) Maybe u will respond if I post a fake pic of launchpad that I don't own! Haaahaa! It's Saturday and I'm fucking drinking ahaha .. peace bloxtaz cmdtc64 4 life f000!!

  • johnnjohnn

    @blocsxnovation said:
    Just to be clear for those reading. Launchpad Pro has velocity senstive RGB pads using the same technology as the Ableton Push 2. The other products mentioned generally are not velocity senstive and sometimes only three colours (Red, Amber and Green).

    In terms of velocity, It is worth users comparing the differnce between the Akai MPC2000XL technology against the Launchpad Pro & Push 2 technology, as they are quite different. The Akai technology could be described as 'older' tech, but of course it's up to you to decide if you prefer that.

    // M

    p.s. if the akai tech is not older please feel free to correct me on the velocity mechanics they use as compared to Launchpad Pro and Push 2

    @johnn said:
    I dont know, the only other pads I've used are on an akai MPk mini (sucks IMO) and the KING of all pad based machines.....the 1, the only ... THE MPC 2000xl (absolute best IMO) so based off of those, I actually like the pads on the tc64 a lot.

    U my friend are smoking some good shyiiiit to knock the legendary AKAI MPC 2000xl pads.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @sonicreef I'm getting crashes when I try to do midi learn over Bluetooth midi with a korg nano kontrol studio. Any suggestions?

  • johnnjohnn

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    @sonicreef I'm getting crashes when I try to do midi learn over Bluetooth midi with a korg nano kontrol studio. Any suggestions?

    Didnt know it does midi Bluetooth! That sick brah.

    @sonicreef said:

    @Flexinoodle said:
    @sonicreef
    Does looptunes support Hercules P32, it would seem a match made in heaven ?

    I haven't made a mapping for it yet, since I don't have the controller. You can map it really easily though.

    Please add "1 shots" and "note hold" ur onto something bruva

  • bigcatrikbigcatrik

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Boiling the pads.
    Really very tempting and utterly terrifying.

    I just did it. And it was surprisingly anticlimactic. Five screws, some prying and clicking, then five minutes in a boiling pan (button side down) and it seems a little better. I can still lightly click the buttons in the center without them registering, but clicking on the sides seems to be more reliable.

  • johnnjohnn

    I'm gonna use @blocsxnovation loops and lease their loops at $35 a beat

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @bigcatrik said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Boiling the pads.
    Really very tempting and utterly terrifying.

    I just did it. And it was surprisingly anticlimactic. Five screws, some prying and clicking, then five minutes in a boiling pan (button side down) and it seems a little better. I can still lightly click the buttons in the center without them registering, but clicking on the sides seems to be more reliable.

    If you don't mind sharing your secret recipe, how long did you boil them for? A simmer or a real roiling?

  • bigcatrikbigcatrik

    A medium boil for five minutes. Use a pan big enough so it lays flat on the surface, and wait until the water boils to add the rubber pad (I used hot dog tongs) so it floats and doesn't sink to the bottom. And make sure the pad is completely dry before reassembling.

    The toughest part of the operation is probably snapping apart the two pieces of the LP case. It's tightly assembled even after removing the screws. I used a flathead screwdriver to pry carefully, trying not to damage the plastic. One of the fun parts is plugging the bare board into the iPad and seeing the brilliant LEDs shining naked.

    I'm not really sure it's worth it for the little it seems to have done, though. If you're attached to your LP it might be better to let the buttons wear in naturally. Mine has been sitting in its box for months and I have an LP Pro so if I ruined it I wouldn't be losing much.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @bigcatrik said:
    A medium boil for five minutes. Use a pan big enough so it lays flat on the surface, and wait until the water boils to add the rubber pad (I used hot dog tongs) so it floats and doesn't sink to the bottom. And make sure the pad is completely dry before reassembling.

    The toughest part of the operation is probably snapping apart the two pieces of the LP case. It's tightly assembled even after removing the screws. I used a flathead screwdriver to pry carefully, trying not to damage the plastic. One of the fun parts is plugging the bare board into the iPad and seeing the brilliant LEDs shining naked.

    I'm not really sure it's worth it for the little it seems to have done, though. If you're attached to your LP it might be better to let the buttons wear in naturally. Mine has been sitting in its box for months and I have an LP Pro so if I ruined it I wouldn't be losing much.

    Would have liked to seen the time-lapse :)

    Thanks for the recipe. I think I'll do best by opening the surprise on Christmas morning, powering it up, hitting at it a bit, getting confused, repeating similarly over the next few days when I can't pry away the Circuit that will be under the same tree for the 14 year, and then putting it away for a month or two. Somewhere in the Spring I'll take it out, get confused again, and then decide to start cooking. Life is a loop :)

  • Gaia.TreeGaia.Tree

    What i would give for a launchpad pro mini, that was ios powerable and featured the same scale mode as the big daddy. I sold my LPP to buy my ipad and i do miss the scale jamming sometimes

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @Gaia.Tree said:
    What i would give for a launchpad pro mini, that was ios powerable and featured the same scale mode as the big daddy. I sold my LPP to buy my ipad and i do miss the scale jamming sometimes

    I would love that as well

  • bigcatrikbigcatrik

    An LP Pro Mini would be kind of great. The Mini size is very friendly and I took it everywhere my iPad went for several months. The Pro hasn't left my bedroom. Even if I go back to FL Studio/PC full-time it will be on a laptop and I'll want to utilize performance mode which is LP-compatible.

    Maybe Behringer will make something to fill the gap.

    Ooh, see what I did there by looping back to the topic?

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