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Picked up the Motherlode V.3 IAP to go with everything else I had with the V.2. ToneStack is my favorite all around amp sim, there are some features and tones that BIAS and AmpKit have that I prefer, but if I could only have one it would be ToneStack.
The sounds I tried so far are in the the same league as the others I love so I was pleased. The Acoustic Sim is a bit wonky, but I've never heard or played an acoustic simulator that sounded as good as condenser put 2 feet from the 12th fret. The sounds you can get are decent for some things, background arpeggios and Petty-ish high EQ strum "pads"'. Overall the upgrade is well worth getting at $15.00, You can't even get a shite Behringer Distortion pedal for that much...
hahaha, link to player tempo and player quantise
Motherload v3.0 is on the store for intro sale price of £39.99, the upgrade is only from v2. If you're on v1 motherload I think you will need to buy the full v3.
Biggie for me functionality wise is the addition of bluetooth MIDI, so I can now use my Blueboard with tonestack without having to use the Blueboard app.
Jesus, that's me out then. I like ToneStack, but the distortions and overdrives don't sound as good as my hardware FX pedals, so I've only really used it for in-app stuff. I've had a listen to the new vid and it's not tempting me to spend another forty quid on it.
The new tap delay sounds good though so I might see if I can buy it separately.
Taproom is £7.99 on its own
You cant really make a preset that sounds good on all guitars, because all guitars sound different.
Simulations arent capable of doing as good distortions as the real thing(with the exception of axe-fx 2, which comes so close that it could be said its on the same level). You might want to try putting a real distortion/od pedal in front of your ipad and then using a clean/cleanish sound on the sim.
For £7.99 you can get a pack of boxers, a second hand pair of named jeans or the crotch only of some sexy lingerie....
I know which I would buy.....all the others options are pants!
One of the new delays - the delay tripper, sounds interesting. Shimmer reverbs? Ambient stuff? Sign me up. Wondering if there's a demo somewhere, or if I need to just make one.
Simulations work much better at distortions with high quality audio, it seems strange but it is true, if you can run 24bit 96 k audio in, then the distortions will sound infinitely better.
I learned this a long long time ago when Steinberg first released Warp VST.
The Bias FX have richer tones with their distortions and overdrives, but not as good as ToneStack for modulations.
Wahey ! On form today I see
I take advantage of the intro offers on stuff like this to keep up to date, it's gonna cost me £10.99 to get fully loaded, I think it was similar price from 1 to 2.....
Wish I knew when the offer period is going to end though
Back in the day, we used to be able to get fully loaded for a lot less!
I think as long as you can insert them where you want in the chain still, then using your hardware is the best option, If I still had overdrive or distortion (I used to have a nice Hughes and Kettner tube pre-amp and RAT distortion which sounded nice) I would be doing this too.
The convenience of total recall has a lot to answer for
You still can.....
Anyone with a 4s that can confirm functionality as good as pre-update?
2.0 is working great on mine now so I don't want to screw it up.
(Mini2 is just fine of course)
Simulations arent capable of creating the same dynamics or reacting dynamically to sound as analog gear does. Digital distortion can sound good in synths and other things that doesent require them to react dynamically to the sound. But when it comes to guitars, digital isnt even close to analog. Especially when talking about how tubes distorting react to sound dynamically.
Ofc its also a matter of taste which one you like, but if you want to get the same tone than what you get from a proper tube amps, you simply dont get that from simulations(again axe fx 2 is the only thing that comes really close). Even a simple tube screamer in front of tone stack/bias/whatevers does a much better job at creating an authentic guitar distortion sounds than any distortion you have from those apps. Also digital distortion is noisy as hell, which means you need to add shit tons of noise gating if you want some really high gain sounds, which means crappier tones, shitty sustain trail etc
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Indeed it is a generous offer. Yonac always remember folk who've bought before, and I did the same as you! Lovely new stuff, in particular the delay units. I would love it if ToneStack had a AU version. Maybe one day?
I traded the quality of tubes for the convenience of digital a long time ago...I know I have a lesser tone as a result, but I don't play much any more, so the trade off isn't so bad for me.
The one thing I DO miss is completely controllable feedback, never been able to do that digitally.
I love the distortions and overdrives out of Bias FX. I really love the FX in Tonestack. I wish I could combine the two. But, Positive Grids FX are good enough for me, ToneStacks Distortions all sound too digital/fake/buzzy.......
Does Bias FX work as an IAA? The reason i ask is that Tonestack can host IAA as well, so your wish may indeed be possible
Looks like a good bit of kit for $15...
Yes you can load tonestack as an effect in Biasfx.
And vice-versa. Also you could load 'Bias Pedal' within Tonestack
any micro synth style fuzz yet? only effect lacking. They nailed pog so come on micro synth pretty please! thx!! And the filters fx rule all worlds. Love em
+1000
I picked up Tonestack during that crazy good deal offer over the summer. I appreciate the upgrade price for existing users. Tonestack is wonderful for effects for other apps.
Yeh, I know. My axe is wierd anyway. I mainly said that to encourage people not to react based on the presets. I feel like ToneStack is more "responsive" to tweaking than the rest of my sims. It seems to me like the range of tones available in my other sims isn't as wide. With a few exceptions they have a basic character, and it's pretty hard to get them to behave significantly outside a narrow mold. ToneStack's controls on the other hand seem like they have a stronger affect on the character. That makes them more powerful, but can also makes take it more effort to really dial in the right tone.
But that's just me. If there's one constant in amp sims it's the fact that everyone's take on what sounds best is unique!
The tape delays from the first Motherload are quite nice, I'm curious about these bucket brigade delays from this new one, I hope someone makes a demo and they suck so I don't have to buy them...
My first impression of the Acoustic Sim was the same ("a bit wonky"), but when I dug in and really messed with it I was able to eventually get better results than I have so far with other acoustic sims. Of course there's no flippin' way it's anywhere in the same league as a properly mic'd acoustic guitar. But for just noodling, maybe trying out "Humm I wonder if this would sound good on acoustic," quick changes in live performance, or if it's so buried in the rest of the mix that nobody would know the difference, it's nice to have handy. Pulling out the acoustic isn't practical at 2:00am when everyone else is in bed sometimes.
And anything is better than that scramble to change out the electric and grab the acoustic before the band launches into the next song. I coulda sacrificed a lot of tone to avoid to avoid that stress many times in the past.
Certain combinations of the acoustic chorus and reverb surprised me with an unexpected 12-string ish sound.
Ha, same here