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Brian Eno : Reflection
An album, in app form. A bit hefty at $39.99.
Description:
REFLECTION is the most recent of my Ambient experiments and represents the most sophisticated of them so far. My original intention with Ambient music was to make endless music, music that would be there as long as you wanted it to be. I wanted also that this music would unfold differently all the time - ‘like sitting by a river’: it’s always the same river, but it’s always changing. But recordings - whether vinyl, cassette or CD - are limited in length, and replay identically each time you listen to them. So in the past I was limited to making the systems which make the music, but then recording 30 minutes or an hour and releasing that. REFLECTION in its album form - on vinyl or CD - is like this. But the app by which REFLECTION is produced is not restricted: it creates an endless and endlessly changing version of the piece of music.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/brian-eno-reflection/id1180524479
Comments
Very interesting and a rather interesting price point too.
At almost $40 it shows how out of touch Eno is, these days. Most people here can equal his work, they just don't have the profile.
A subscription price model would have been more fitting, to endlessly draw funds from your wallet.
I agree it's a fair whack for an album / concept / app. Regarding the latter point, that's very debatable (to say the least). In the sphere of ambient music, I can't think of any established artist who has created anything of the stature of albums such as 'Thursday Afternoon', 'Ambient 2' etc.
I'm glad to see Opal Ltd. is doing something with iOS again. Their other music apps haven't been touched in well over a year. Maybe we'll see and update to Bloom. (Not that it necessarily needs one, but one does enjoy the occasional extra bell or whistle.)
So it came out as a "regular" release too:
https://www.amazon.com/Reflection-Brian-Eno/dp/B01N8R971K
That $39.99 for the app is a curious price point isn't it? Maybe it's part of the whole "reflection" thing: Upon buying it people ask themselves... "Why?"
If he really wanted to be innovative, he'd pay me an endlessly changing amount of money for me to play the app.
While I'm not captivated by the piece, I always cringe @ sweeping generalizations, like "Most people here can equal his work". I say show, don't tell. Please link to a piece you've executed that rivals this piece. Indeed, please post 5 pcs. by different artists found here on the forums that rival Eno's Jan 1. release. I'm very curious to see what folks think surpasses this.
Also worth noting that Belew put out an app-only, generative record over a year ago that is far more engaging, musically. IMHO.
Im so arty, please send in money.
No thanks. Go home old man.
Wow. "Go home", father of ambient.
The best ambient music isn't from Eno.
Selected ambient works 1&2 from Richard D. James (aphex twin)
And
Silence 1&2 by Pete Namlook (Peter kuhlmann) are the crown of ambient music.
Ymmv
Go home old man and bore someone else.
When was the last time Eno was interesting?
Right, to long ago.
He still talks interesting, but what he does doesn't interest me anymore.
I can't deny that the only albums I truly love of his are the first two (decidedly glam) efforts.
Much like (later period) Warhol, I admire his perspective more than much of the work.
I never really got into Eno's stuff, but always admired his thought process, including this app (in spite of the price). He seems to actually think about things, while others seem to want to push the envelope just for the sake of pushing the envelope.
Best ambient stuff I've heard (or, my favorite) are those little snippets Boards of Canada do, mainly because one of them features Leslie Nielson.
Either that or Stars of the Lid. Though I must admit my finger is on the pulse of nothing.
I spent years, after college, as a guard @ the Metropolitan Museum in NYC. I often ran into people, looking @ some abstract or minimalist piece, that said "I could do that", and my answer is always the same; "Sure... Now that you've SEEN it done". So there's points for doing something more accomplished, but would it exist if not for Eno's vision, many years earlier?
"I could do that."
"But you didn't."
I also like late andys work, the genital paintings and the piss paintings both series from the late 70s are great. I really love the phone conversation diaries they are very complex and you have to read a lot between the lines. I don't think he talks about jons death at all, will have to look again. (His bf Jon Gould died 86 on the side effects of AIDS.)
When I search 'Belew app' I only come up with Flux.
Please, what is the name of this album/app?
... or my other favorite...
"Do it!"
Thumbs up for Oxidation Paintings.
"I could do that"
Same thing with Beckett and Godot. Thing is, a lot of people tried afterwords, and failed miserably.
Had to post some Stars of the Lid... If by chance someone out there has not heard them. Be forewarned, the third song might knock you down if you're in a frail state. It might just anyways, it's a stunning piece of music.
Exactly. A million guitarists said the same thing about Kurt Cobain, and I've never heard any of their albums.
With Cobain, it's more like "it's been done", though.
En attend godot, waiting for godot, warten auf godot is amazing.
You have to read all 3 versions if you are able to,
he is making different jokes in every language.
BTW. If you liked that you may like endgame too.
I remember a short story, "First Love" that was so rich. I have a nice volume of his trilogy, but I haven't gotten into it yet. Haven't read W4G In 25 years.
ha.
His guitar is not really noteworthy. But his melodies and his voice are in the pantheon.
I find the lyrics puerile. I went to see the Breeders open for them in '93., and walked out on Nirvana after 15 min.
Yay for you. I think you're wrong. (Opened for the Breeders in 94, fwiw.)
It's just my personal take. "Yay for me?"
Was overreacting to the badge of honor of walking out on Nirvana after 15 minutes. I don't love the catalog much these days, and it's hard to hear it with fresh ears. But seriously, Cobain as a singer and songwriter is only going to grow in stature with time. As much as I adore Kim Deal, the Breeders are a footnote.
Maybe, as far as mass appeal is concerned. Then again, Rundgren is a "footnote" in pop, vs. Michael Jackson. I know who I'd take.