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The original implied question of this thread ($40 album??) has a much more interesting sub question that I think a lot of musicians and artists of various types have struggled with: valuing our work. In particular, valuing our work when reproduction is cheap.
People who don't create music have set the acceptable price for music. Namely consumers (hey, free market) and record companies (or more generally, distributors of recorded music). Musicians have had very little say in the whole thing. That doesn't seem right to me.
Painting still commands the highest prices. They're very hard to reproduce. Photographs can do pretty well. They take time and materials to reproduce. Records (and books, really) though... the price point is basically set at some median between what the public will accept knowing that they're inexpensive to reproduce and what the distribution channel says it needs to keep doing it. And now we're in a world of nearly free digital reproduction.
And records are all priced the same. There's is (basically) no value differentiation between two records but listeners obviously value some records and artists more than others (scroll up). Can you imagine a world where paintings all have a fixed price!? Musical output has been entirely commodified. Quality of work being distributed doesn't matter. Money and time invested in the work doesn't matter. Price is fixed. Any sort of return to the artist (and/or distributor) is 100% tied to volume. Much like toilet paper, quality etc comes into the equation after the production and pricing: better will presumably sell more. Records are toilet paper.
If reproducibility is removed from the pricing:value equation, how does (should, could) this affect pricing musical output?
I'm basically fine with this whole set up because I consume way more music than I publish but it does rub me as "wrong" on some level.
I doubt I'll buy this applbum. Glad he did it though. Think this stuff is worth consideration and discussion.
I'd say he'd had more bands named after bits of his songs than anyone else.
That's because they were all tripping.
If I should name the most influential band I would say it's the velvet underground. Everybody had their records.
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That's absurd. You basically brought the soundtrack to "risky business" to a "Bowie Berlin trilogy" fight.
Liking one artist does not preclude admiring another. But it's a little crazy in this thread that the artistic importance of Brian Eno, Michael Jackson, and Kurt Cobain are up for debate! Obviously, we are all esoteric geniuses ourselves, and we all prefer the early stuff of whatever artist got famous later… But seriously! Listen with fresh ears to "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin" -- it's actual magic.
Eno and Kurt cobain certainly had the velvets on the shelf.
If I wouldn't think Michael Jackson is important I wouldn't post videos of him.
(And he is obviously influenced by the supremes and James brown, where do you think all the hooo and he hes came from?)
It's not quite "a cruel aside" but it's up there:
Bowie hit it out of the park with ziggy stardust before Berlin.
Having "The Big Ship" in my life has made it a lot richer. Just that one song.
I've noticed some of the more experimental musicians are now creating limited vinyl runs of their catalogue, and some with lavish print runs of original artwork, sold via their own websites. They're probably making more profit than better known acts selling their wares on Spotify.
And I'm guessing if musicians were to offer one-off recordings, and private concerts (some do), they'd charge more than the standard entry price. Not as much dosh as a Renoir painting might fetch, though that'd be bought as an investment anyway, but certainly in the same league as a popular contemporary painter. I've been shocked at the relatively low prices some of my favourite painters are selling their work for.
These days you need to be creative to squeeze the most profit from your products.
It's all limited edition because it's unlikely you sell more than 500 - 3000 copies of experimental music.
http://youtube.com/watch?list=PLnh-wfAyAqdC35lyeIcgKrMvL-YUJQjhf¶ms=OAFIAVgB&v=B5g0GMm6jLo&mode=NORMAL
Oh, absolutely!
Somehow it all goes back to Son House and George Gershwin.
Just hope that Bowie is done selecting geniuses to join him in whatever parallel dimension he ended up in. At least John Cale is still here.
Price is an interesting question.
With streaming you hardly earn enough cash to order a pizza.
concert tickets are really absurd now 100€ for 2 hours of entertainment, they must be completely nuts. Thats 100€ plus traveling there and back plus something to eat and drink.
Im not willing to pay that, no matter who it is.
And if I look at the underground stuff they take 10 to 20€,
And if they are unlucky only 20 ppl show up.
Can't live on that after they payed the traveling and the rent for "the stage".
Get a job guys, music is over.
I payed 50€ for john Cale, it was weird. Hall with seats, and strange audience. Girls in their little black dress and the guys in suits. John Cale was great, he played heartbreak hotel crawled under the grand piano and began ripping the carpet from the stage ... feel so lonely I could die, lol. John Cale and me were the only guys in black leather.
Oh, ticket prices.
One of the best remixes I've ever heard, which is always one of a few tracks I use to make a deep emotional adjustment is protection brian eno mix. I had it first track on a mixtape that I'd used to go on long rides, one of the things that stood out for me, was the beginning actually sounded like it went passed my headphones and blended into the environment.
Was something I've bought twice on vinyl and once on itunes, so I'll probably pick this app up, hopefully if there is a sale, £30 though for something that keeps evolving has me a bit intrigued, always wanted to make music that would change on every listen.
I prefer the mad professor mix.
That's the version I'd put on a mixtape for sessions, bit of underdog, some of trickys more strange stuff, nightmares on wax, cypress hill, mo wax and a touch of portishead, mainly the remixes on the 12". But the eno mix was always for me, for my alone time, thinking about it now though the 90's had an exceptional period for music around the middle.
@syrupcore Interesting if (understandably) somewhat glum round up there Professor. The products and the markets, the toilet paper and the bums in need. Folks will be writing their thesis on this already I'd imagine (although more likely for the Economics Department). And then there's the usage issue also; the numbers of us all unwashed and plinking away where, and despite all the punk bands, more folks watched than did. That whole part of it has to be added on our chalkboard somehow. The mystery or availability etc.
Had dinner tonight at some place and as we three sat waiting for our food we played a game we've played since the urchin could speak. In 'Favorites' someone suggests a category and then we all say what our favorite therein might be. It's a chance for wishing and sentimentality combined, the future and the past both get to have their say. After a few rounds I asked: 'If you could play an instrument to a really masterful, professional level, but only for your own pleasure, what would be your favorite?
Much staring off, umming and ahhing, this is a game we take seriously:
Mom: Piano. Dad: Cello. Kid: Launchpad.
Forgive me for reducing this post to mushy dad sentiment but dude. You nailed it.
(With regard to Yule procurement and teenage boy inspiration).
What's weird is he's playing with a slew of chopped jazz samples, most of them be-bop and before, cut the hell out of them into some not-quite-discordant jittery funk that's almost tumbling into gospel. Not at all what I'd had pencilled in/imagined. Love that. If it's a boy's task job to exceed his father I think by the time his mother drags him out of that dark room he'll be well on the way...
Fantastic and perfect. Just as we are always surprised by the things they fail at, their brilliance is always like some new element.
Great now you guys make me feel old too.
I was chased online by a young man of 22.
I told him to look for some other daddy.
And now I'm sitting here with the other dads, amusing.
True, but most of the experimental artists I follow knock out a lot of albums each year, courtesy of a genre that's more accepting of looseness in production and performance. Coupled with artwork sales, special editions and gigs they make a decent living from their work.
Contrast that to a well-ish known folk/new age/ambient/prog singer guitarist I know, who has a similar cottage industry (home studio, label etc.) who has just announced he's not making any more albums, after 30-something years of doing so, and having a very strong following of fans.
Basically being a perfectionist, it takes him five years to produce an album that sells a few thousand copies, and newer fans get to pick up the music free from ripped online copies. His business (that's what it is), is making a loss so he's having to call it a day.
My advice to him would be to buy an iPad, knock out a few live jams, and create some luxury vinyl ltd editions to sell at ridiculously high prices to his rich, baby boomer collector fans.
an excellent interview recorded at eno's studio on the last weeks Sunday surgery.. probably on iplayer if you want to catch it.
I just looked over at synthopia, ppl there hate it too.
People on Synthtopia hate everything...
I don't know. Who is supposed to be the audience for this app?
Interest in generative stuff isn't big anyway ...
Seemingly, some people on here are like that too
not buying this app, but eno no doubt is one amazing contributor to music. The catalogue of albums written and produced by him is hard to compare to imo.
Not to mention different ideas and approaches to making music.