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TROUBLEMAKER 1.2, now with 64 step sequencer

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  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Nkersov said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    I do know the song, but it was far from my conscious mind when doing this, it just sort of came together on it's own :)

    Some things just work, don't they? Deriving from a common, possibly sub-conscious wellspring.

    Yes they do :) and my sub-conscious wellspring is plenty full :D

    I love the way the sequencer in TM makes it so easy to just throw stuff together so quickly.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    I have a complaint about Troublemaker :o ........ my neck is aching from all the 'Groove Nodding' I am doing while playing with it :D

  • balphbalph

    @vpich said:

    @balph said:

    Tie In is one of my favorite Recondite tracks :) And yeah, I also love the subtle way he uses the 303 sound in all of his tracks. I think he's not using a real 303 though but an Ableton plugin, he mentioned this in the RA Exchange podcast if I remember correctly...

    you remember some correctly ;) after hearing some of his tracks i was so impressed that i researched his gear and he uses a 303 hardware copy, forget the name. but everything else is done with only ableton. he says he only uses operator for every other sound but the 303.

    Yeah, you're probably right :) I remember him saying that he started making music with a lot of hardware but later started using Ableton because he preferred that kind of workflow.

  • nrgbnrgb

    @balph said:

    @vpich said:

    @balph said:

    Tie In is one of my favorite Recondite tracks :) And yeah, I also love the subtle way he uses the 303 sound in all of his tracks. I think he's not using a real 303 though but an Ableton plugin, he mentioned this in the RA Exchange podcast if I remember correctly...

    you remember some correctly ;) after hearing some of his tracks i was so impressed that i researched his gear and he uses a 303 hardware copy, forget the name. but everything else is done with only ableton. he says he only uses operator for every other sound but the 303.

    Yeah, you're probably right :) I remember him saying that he started making music with a lot of hardware but later started using Ableton because he preferred that kind of workflow.

    He's using AudioRealism Bass Line. (https://xlr8r.com/features/2015/11/in-the-studio-recondite/)

  • cronycrony
    edited January 2017

    @brambos.

    @syrupcore said:

    @crony said:
    2.Could the transpose buttons could be midi controlable ?

    Super duper pretty please. And not via CC but plain old note number.

    YES ! Like this you might control the scale if you do variations, I just realized that as I'm actually moving 2 semitones up/down...

    Here are my 4 new feature demands... :smile:

    -An indicator to see what note is actually playing (like in any bar)
    -The name of the pattern loaded somewhere !
    -increase steps from the sequencer to 64...
    -a way to link notes with more than 1 step between them. It could work like this:

    Let's say you want to connect note 1 and 4, long press on the first note, it blinks, then long press on the 2nd note. (here on step 4) Then the connection is done...If you want your steps in between back, long press on the first note, then the link is gone.(that will prevent to cut the link between step 4 and the next one, that could be step 7 for instance...)
    Notes not played in the interval would be less bright (to keep what you've entered, in case you want to reverse)

    Sounds stupid ? Doable ? Cool ? :D

    Thanks :)

    BTW: I've just posted my 5 stars review in french.

  • bleepbleep

    Great jamming with the new mutations! Could the three mutation parameters be added to the MIDI CC chart, please? Or perhaps they are already, and only the documentation needs updating ...

    It would be great to set up some CC curves in Modstep that would control Troublemaker mutation, Drumjam bedlam, Softdrummer jam intensity , and so on, in a leading/lagging/synched kind of way.

  • WillWill

    @bleep said:
    It would be great to set up some CC curves in Modstep that would control Troublemaker mutation, Drumjam bedlam, Softdrummer jam intensity , and so on, in a leading/lagging/synched kind of way.

    Hubba.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker
    edited January 2017

    @syrupcore said:

    @bleep said:
    It would be great to set up some CC curves in Modstep that would control Troublemaker mutation, Drumjam bedlam, Softdrummer jam intensity , and so on, in a leading/lagging/synched kind of way.

    Hubba.

    Seconded. Add elastic drums jam controls.

  • wimwim

    Mutate is awesome! I've found myself just spacing out for long periods with nothing more than a drum groove and a lightly mutating pattern going.

    On thought would be an additional "skip note" probability. That would totally take it over the top.

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth
    edited January 2017

    Finally had a proper go on this while wandering down to pick up a few things at the local Dunnes (Waitrose for Irish people..). Needless to say I was a lot longer than planned, forgot half the things I went for and came back with a massive smile on my face.

    Masterful interface design too. A pleasure to use on iPhone SE.

  • NicebutfunNicebutfun

    Dont think dunnes is quite on the same level as waitrose

  • Artefact2001Artefact2001

    @nrgb said:

    @balph said:

    @vpich said:

    @balph said:

    Tie In is one of my favorite Recondite tracks :) And yeah, I also love the subtle way he uses the 303 sound in all of his tracks. I think he's not using a real 303 though but an Ableton plugin, he mentioned this in the RA Exchange podcast if I remember correctly...

    you remember some correctly ;) after hearing some of his tracks i was so impressed that i researched his gear and he uses a 303 hardware copy, forget the name. but everything else is done with only ableton. he says he only uses operator for every other sound but the 303.

    Yeah, you're probably right :) I remember him saying that he started making music with a lot of hardware but later started using Ableton because he preferred that kind of workflow.

    He's using AudioRealism Bass Line. (https://xlr8r.com/features/2015/11/in-the-studio-recondite/)

    Looks like he's using hardware:

    What are your primary tools for building synthesiser sounds?

    I only use the Ableton stuff. Nothing else. For my On Acid album and on an upcoming EP for Acid Test I use the Acid Lab Bassline because it’s just a perfect emulation of the 303. It’s even better in my opinion, it gives you additional possibilities. But other than that it’s all about Operator. It’s the only synth I need. I don’t even use Analog or Tension.

    https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/recondite-melody-technology-interview/
    http://www.acidlab.de/

  • nrgbnrgb

    @Artefact2001 said:
    Looks like he's using hardware:

    Good catch.
    Recondite is a terrific sound designer.

  • stemshadestemshade

    @Artefact2001 said

    Looks like he's using hardware:

    What are your primary tools for building synthesiser sounds?

    >

    The 303 whisperer

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth

    @Nicebutfun said:
    Dont think dunnes is quite on the same level as waitrose

    Only in price

  • nrgbnrgb

    Don't push me, cos I'm close to a Greggs...

  • NicebutfunNicebutfun

    Update live in app store

  • NicebutfunNicebutfun

    1.1.1

  • brambosbrambos

    @Nicebutfun said:
    1.1.1

    Fixes the gain jump in the fold effect and adds a smoother delay effect (no more zipper noise when changing tempo or delay time).

    Just a minor update.

  • SamuSamu

    @brambos said:

    @Nicebutfun said:
    1.1.1

    Fixes the gain jump in the fold effect and adds a smoother delay effect (no more zipper noise when changing tempo or delay time).

    Just a minor update.

    Thanks...

    Just out of curiosity, would it be too much 'trouble' to add some kind of VU-Meter (few led-dots or so) so we'd have better control over the total level of the exported *.wav file?

    And well, hope you don't forget Phasemaker and add a midi-note->rate & level scaling that could come in handy for certain types of sounds :)

  • NTKKNTKK

    WOW, Bram you're faster than Roland!

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited January 2017

    No rush, but 64 steps and scales will be incredible... Ah...
    Eat your heart out Sugar Bytes (Thesys)...
    Will we see a StepSeq come to Phasemaker ? Instant buy for me...

    Edit... Forgot to add..
    TroubleMaker is great... IOS essential...
    Thanks...

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    I sincerely love the sequencer. @brambos plz can we have 64steps and scales someday ?
    Or could you make your own Thesys like app ? I will buy it day one. Seriously,

  • brambosbrambos
    edited January 2017

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I sincerely love the sequencer. @brambos plz can we have 64steps and scales someday ?
    Or could you make your own Thesys like app ? I will buy it day one. Seriously,

    Out of curiosity, why not use Thesys? It already does all those things.

    I'll need to have a look at Thesys to see if there's anything I could add to a concept like that, but it already seems to be quite a comprehensive midi sequencing suite.

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @brambos said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I sincerely love the sequencer. @brambos plz can we have 64steps and scales someday ?
    Or could you make your own Thesys like app ? I will buy it day one. Seriously,

    Out of curiosity, why not use Thesys? It already does all those things.

    I'll need to have a look at Thesys to see if there's anything I could add to a concept like that, but it already seems to be quite a comprehensive midi sequencing suite.

    Cause thesys doesn't have the same export troublemaker has and also doesn't (yet) have link. Plus your interfaces tend to be more legible... To be honest I will probably use thesys and whatever app you make simultaneously on different synths lol.

  • brambosbrambos

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @brambos said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I sincerely love the sequencer. @brambos plz can we have 64steps and scales someday ?
    Or could you make your own Thesys like app ? I will buy it day one. Seriously,

    Out of curiosity, why not use Thesys? It already does all those things.

    I'll need to have a look at Thesys to see if there's anything I could add to a concept like that, but it already seems to be quite a comprehensive midi sequencing suite.

    Cause thesys doesn't have the same export troublemaker has and also doesn't (yet) have link. Plus your interfaces tend to be more legible... To be honest I will probably use thesys and whatever app you make simultaneously on different synths lol.

    Right, that makes sense. I don't have thesys so I'm not familiar with it beyond the feature list and screenshots.

  • cronycrony
    edited January 2017

    Wow, I completely forgot about Thesys !

    I just see these missing:
    -no Link
    -how do recreate the groove of the bass lines with it ? I mean, you have the slide etc...

    The reason I prefer the internal sequencer is because it's easier, more integrated, more plug'n'play, and more realistic for the use of a 303.
    Thesys looks awesome indeed, but even with all his feature, I'm afraid it would not groove like your internal sequencer.
    With your apps, it's easier : it's universal, Link, IAA, AB, midi, optimized, upgrades, open to discussion, bla bla bla, no questions asked...It's so much easier to buy apps when you are in a trusted environnement...So I prefer buying your apps.

    So, like @gonekrazy3000 , I'd love to buy your sequencer, of course it would have some thesys features, but I'd like to see it more than an ultimate step sequencer, with a generic template, like thesys, then optimized templates for each of your app...It could detect the Brambos apps already installed ?

    There's a 4 tracks step sequencer that already exist, can't remember the name, but it would be something like this crossed with thesys.

  • brambosbrambos
    edited January 2017

    Ok got it. And although personally I'm still firmly in the "Audio Units + DAW" camp, I can see the fun in jamming with Link enabled apps. But I think I'll never get used to all the tedious task switching between standalone apps on iOS.

    By the way, all the slide and accent voodoo magic is built into the Audio Unit part of Troublemaker. There's nothing magical going on in the sequencer. It's 100% clean standard MIDI.

    If you want to trigger a slide, simply use overlapping notes. And accents are triggered if you send a note with a velocity value > 100. It's the AU engine that interprets the MIDI data, translates it into control voltage, and then makes it sound like a certain analog synth.

    So in theory, any sequencer that lets you overlap notes and control velocity can pull it off.

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @brambos said:
    Ok got it. And although personally I'm still firmly in the "Audio Units + DAW" camp, I can see the fun in jamming with Link enabled apps. But I think I'll never get used to all the tedious task switching between standalone apps on iOS.

    By the way, all the slide and accent voodoo magic is built into the Audio Unit part of Troublemaker. There's nothing magical going on in the sequencer. It's 100% clean standard MIDI.

    If you want to trigger a slide, simply use overlapping notes. And accents are triggered if you send a note with a velocity value > 100. It's the AU engine that interprets the MIDI data, translates it into control voltage, and then makes it sound like a certain analog synth.

    So in theory, any sequencer that lets you overlap notes and control velocity can pull it off.

    you forget that some of us use multiple ipads lol. i myself jam with a couple volcas,an ipad and a pc.
    or 2 ipads depending on the situation. Link is super useful in keeping everything in time. Currently
    Thesys on ios refuses to behave and drifts a bit out of time even when using midi link sync hence
    the frustration. plus its midi export requires you to plugin to a pc so its practically useless unless in my
    studio. atleast the pc version lets me drag and drop directly into my daw.... troublemaker however has led
    to a ton of usefull clips exported into audioshare. even if the only thing you added was scale lock and 64 steps i
    would be immensely happy.

  • brambosbrambos

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    Thesys on ios refuses to behave and drifts a bit out of time even when using midi link sync hence
    the frustration. plus its midi export requires you to plugin to a pc so its practically useless unless in my
    studio. atleast the pc version lets me drag and drop directly into my daw.... troublemaker however has led
    to a ton of usefull clips exported into audioshare. even if the only thing you added was scale lock and 64 steps i
    would be immensely happy.

    I see. I have a certain roadmap in mind of where I want to go with my apps in general, but this is useful input/feedback.

    Thanks for clarifying!

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