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TROUBLEMAKER 1.2, now with 64 step sequencer

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  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @OscarSouth said:

    @Carnbot said:
    Finally jumped into Troublemaker. Love it. :)

    I'm sure it's been mentioned but I'd vote for the sequencer in the AU version (it could be like the iphone version which flips screens over) and the ability to have multiple patterns chained etc.

    I get a few crashes in AUM when playing with Thesys so not sure if anyone else finds it a bit fragile sometimes Air2 10.2

    That plus fine tune would make app from heaven into something beyond perfection that I can't even begin to describe!

    Yeah being able to play with the sequencer and save the setup in AUM would be great :)

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth
    edited January 2017

    @Carnbot said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @Carnbot said:
    Finally jumped into Troublemaker. Love it. :)

    I'm sure it's been mentioned but I'd vote for the sequencer in the AU version (it could be like the iphone version which flips screens over) and the ability to have multiple patterns chained etc.

    I get a few crashes in AUM when playing with Thesys so not sure if anyone else finds it a bit fragile sometimes Air2 10.2

    That plus fine tune would make app from heaven into something beyond perfection that I can't even begin to describe!

    Yeah being able to play with the sequencer and save the setup in AUM would be great :)

    Definitely. I've got one hosted via IAA and another two as AU. Second two are controlled by Modstep, which I export patterns from the IAA instance to. Having 3 as AU would basically streamline the workflow down and make setup or 'jamming' workflows easier', also save a bit of MIDI controller programming.

    The fine tune dial on the other hand is something I'm hoping and praying for.. I perform a lot with ethnic instruments which aren't tuned to concert pitches, and I am literally ITCHING to use Troublemaker with that project!!

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    @OscarSouth said:

    @Carnbot said:
    Finally jumped into Troublemaker. Love it. :)

    I'm sure it's been mentioned but I'd vote for the sequencer in the AU version (it could be like the iphone version which flips screens over) and the ability to have multiple patterns chained etc.

    I get a few crashes in AUM when playing with Thesys so not sure if anyone else finds it a bit fragile sometimes Air2 10.2

    That plus fine tune would make app from heaven into something beyond perfection that I can't even begin to describe!

    How about Swing? Or is that already in there somewhere?

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth
    edited January 2017

    @realdavidai said:

    @OscarSouth said:

    @Carnbot said:
    Finally jumped into Troublemaker. Love it. :)

    I'm sure it's been mentioned but I'd vote for the sequencer in the AU version (it could be like the iphone version which flips screens over) and the ability to have multiple patterns chained etc.

    I get a few crashes in AUM when playing with Thesys so not sure if anyone else finds it a bit fragile sometimes Air2 10.2

    That plus fine tune would make app from heaven into something beyond perfection that I can't even begin to describe!

    How about Swing? Or is that already in there somewhere?

    I think you'd have to export to a sequencer like Modstep which can add swing. I don't use swing that much working with iPads (as opposed to my 'day job' playing jazz bass!) so I've not noticed it myself.

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    @5pinlink said:
    Link without audio is simple, you are just retiming events
    Link with audio is also simple, you resample based on a simple calculation
    Link with audio and no pitch change is a bit more complicated, but if you use a library that supports time stretch (Looptunes uses Superpowered which provides times stretch algos i think) it is less so.

    I have no idea why resampling is never supported in any IOS apps that sync, it is a very strange situation, resampling has been the mainstay of dance music since samplers have been invented (Remember the barking dog ? Todd Terry pitching down a string into one of the original rave anthem sounds or indeed the invention of Jungle with sped up breakbeats)
    It can't be a limitation of IOS itself because plenty of samplers do it, but never for sync.

    Looptunes does resampling, actually :smile:

  • ToMessToMess

    @oat_phipps said:
    I'm gonna throw this in here, because Troublemaker has got me interested in a 'genre' I've never explored. What are some good, classic starting points for 'acid' music? I don't want to derail too much, but surely a couple of you can give a suggestion or two.

    Listen the prodigys album more music for the jilted generation. It has some great 303 and rave sounds

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    @5pinlink said:

    @sonicreef said:

    @5pinlink said:
    Link without audio is simple, you are just retiming events
    Link with audio is also simple, you resample based on a simple calculation
    Link with audio and no pitch change is a bit more complicated, but if you use a library that supports time stretch (Looptunes uses Superpowered which provides times stretch algos i think) it is less so.

    I have no idea why resampling is never supported in any IOS apps that sync, it is a very strange situation, resampling has been the mainstay of dance music since samplers have been invented (Remember the barking dog ? Todd Terry pitching down a string into one of the original rave anthem sounds or indeed the invention of Jungle with sped up breakbeats)
    It can't be a limitation of IOS itself because plenty of samplers do it, but never for sync.

    Looptunes does resampling, actually :smile:

    So it doesn't use any time stretching ?

    it does that too.
    By resampling I meant that you can record Looptune’s output onto a pad.

  • brambosbrambos

    MusicAppBlog is doing a Troublemaker giveaway. If you're still on the fence, enter the competition to have a chance at snagging up a free copy!

    http://musicappblog.com/troublemaker-giveaway/

  • anicktanickt

    @brambos said:
    MusicAppBlog is doing a Troublemaker giveaway. If you're still on the fence, enter the competition to have a chance at snagging up a free copy!

    http://musicappblog.com/troublemaker-giveaway/

    Or just buy it. It's worth it at twice the price. ;)

  • brambosbrambos

    @anickt said:
    Or just buy it. It's worth it at twice the price. ;)

    I endorse this piece of consumer advice B)

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    @5pinlink said:
    Aaaah right, that is completely different to resampling for syncing/tempo change ;)
    So yeah still no app that does it :(

    can you elaborate? What do you mean by resampling for tempo change?

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @brambos said:

    Apologies if you've answered this already. Any plans for midi out for the sequencer? I'd really like to use my Microbrute with it :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    64 steps added - nice update.

  • RichtownsRichtowns

    The sequencer is top notch (undisputedly so is the synth). Just like everyone wants gadget to have midi out, Im just imagining this sequencer with midi out. You have a bright future here @brambos Off to update my app store review ......

  • brambosbrambos

    Yes, I'm quite happy that I could add the new functionality without introducing new controls. The screen is already quite full of buttons for my taste.

    Introducing the new scroll functionality without making the rest of the sequencer less responsive was the hardest part. It was quite a brainfunk to make the algorithm distinguish between the different user interactions, but I feel it works really well now :)

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    Thanks, Great work :) as a sequencer experience on iOS it's one of the best in it's simplicity, that's why I hope it gets midi out. That way you can then also play the AU version with it. A highlight of the current time in the sequence would be a bonus eg dot at the top or highlight of current note playing.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @Carnbot said:
    Thanks, Great work :) as a sequencer experience on iOS it's one of the best in it's simplicity, that's why I hope it gets midi out. That way you can then also play the AU version with it. A highlight of the current time in the sequence would be a bonus eg dot at the top or highlight of current note playing.

    +1

    Really enjoying the scope my deaf ears can make with the 64...

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    Not even played with the 64 steps yet..
    Can we have midi selectable patterns ? Bank/Program change or triggered by note/cc input ? ;) Go on, you know you want to :D

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @Carnbot said:
    Thanks, Great work :) as a sequencer experience on iOS it's one of the best in it's simplicity, that's why I hope it gets midi out. That way you can then also play the AU version with it. A highlight of the current time in the sequence would be a bonus eg dot at the top or highlight of current note playing.

    Yes, yes, yes. Especially to be able to play the AU version... The sequencer is so good!

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    @5pinlink said:
    Aaaah right, that is completely different to resampling for syncing/tempo change ;)
    So yeah still no app that does it :(

    can you elaborate? What do you mean by resampling for tempo change?> @5pinlink said:

    @sonicreef said:

    @5pinlink said:
    Aaaah right, that is completely different to resampling for syncing/tempo change ;)
    So yeah still no app that does it :(

    can you elaborate? What do you mean by resampling for tempo change?

    How an old sampler works, so as it changes tempo it also changes pitch, no stretching involved, no pitch change involved, its how DnB/Jungle was invented and it is also used for super dirty Hiphop beats, lot of other stuff too.

    got it. Mickey Mouse effect. While Looptunes doesn't do that automatically, you can mimic it by pitching up loops.

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    @5pinlink said:
    Wouldnt pitching up be on top of the stretching already taking place ?
    On a desktop app that would cause heavy artifacts.

    it depends on the time stretching algorithm. When you have a stretch ratio and a pitch factor, you can pitch up first, and stretch by a stretch/pitch ratio.

    In Looptunes, the stretching for all factory or downloadedable loops is actually slice based, so speeding up and pitching up would yield very clean results.

  • ecamburnecamburn

    I'm sure it's been requested already but presets that save the state of the synth module not just the sequencer would be mucho appreciated

  • Looping_LoddarLooping_Loddar
    edited January 2017

    I want to say "THANK YOU" to brambos!!! :D

    @ecamburn said:
    I'm sure it's been requested already but presets that save the state of the synth module not just the sequencer would be mucho appreciated

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    A cannot praise Troublemaker and the fast updates of brambos enough! Such a good sound!! Hey, and he listened to us and heard "64 steps" and made this possible (...and has had exact the same idea with the user interface as me).

    But if brambos wants to add one button...

    ...i have an suggestion:

    • A modus ("Song modus" or such?) where we can save complete sessions including recorded fader movements and combine here up to 32, different building blocks/user patches. This could safe some space on the iPad and gives a bit room for later refinemets/corrections. The place of your wonderful sequencer would be used here for combining the patches and recording the fader movements. It is a very naughty idea, too much work for the developer and i even dont know if this idea is a really good one - i suppose it would be interesting only for a small part of the users, because most user prefer to directly record their Troublemaker sessions into their DAWs.

    Another idea, much more realistic and without (!!) additional button:

    • with tipping on "fold" or "fuzz" the fx type changes - for example into "bit red" (bit reduction), "D drive", "over D", "mayhem" etc. If possible i would be EXTREMELY happy for including the freeverb algorithm from Jezar (https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/pasp/Freeverb.html or https://puredata.info/downloads/freeverb/releases/1.2)
    • or (sorry for this bad, ugly feature requesting...) additional waveforms. I would love to see a "sync waveform", where the sync follows the slide. Same trick could be interesting with a ring modulated waveform.

    P.S.
    Including the "bass guitar" as a waveform was a great idea and joke - Roland take this!!

  • rumorazzirumorazzi

    I came here only to say that I really love this awesome app!
    Thank you @brambos !

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @brambos You just keep making troublemaker more and more the sequencer of my dreams! :D the midi controller transpose is perfect. Now all i need is scale lock. coz i really am a noob when wanting to sequence something in say A# Dorian mode.....

  • TrueyorkyTrueyorky

    @brambos AWE+SOME :)

  • SygmaSygma

    Hi
    I never post here, but I had to thank you brambros for your great app ! Also left a five stars rating on the store

  • brambosbrambos

    Thanks guys 'n' gals! Appreciate the kind feedback and the reviews!

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    @5pinlink said:
    So do you plan releasing instructions for creating sliced loops for user content, or possibly an iap or something ?

    Was this question directed at me? If so, let’s take this either offline or to another thread. I don’t want to hijack this one.

  • acidalexacidalex
    edited January 2017

    @brambos I have tried using Troublemaker in Cubasis and I have a question. I can draw in midi CC automation for the knobs but I why can't I record the changes to the knobs as automation? Does Troublemaker not send MIDI CC's or is not supported with AUv3? Any chance you could you add this?

    Another feature request I have for the sequencer is that you can choose scales, so only notes in your chosen scale can be selected.

    Thanks

    Alex

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