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Korg Gadget for Mac coming soon

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  • nicknick

    @Noirflux said:

    @nick said:

    @Noirflux said:

    @vpich said:
    Would love that but would be a wierd step back in terms of marketing. They have succeeded in pushing a closed environment. They won. Why would they open up the au thing?

    I agree. They want people to buy into their app ecosystem. They can definitely get away with it because they are top quality. At the same time, it would be awesome if they did lol

    Why would that be a step back? you can already record individual Gadgets into DAWs via AudioBus or IAA. So Gadgets as Audio Units would only be the next step. And another selling point for the more expensive Gadgets.

    I was talking about from Korg's perspective. Gadget as an app, is closed compared to an app like Auria that encourages multiple app usage from different developers (AU, IAA etc;). Gadget can be used in other scenarios but only approved Gadget synths can be used within the app. I agreed with the earlier point made in that they spent the past few years keeping it closed. To all of a sudden go the AU route would be shocking in my head. However, stranger things have happened as seen on the best show in Netflix :D

    I was also talking from KORG's perspective :)
    I was trying to point out that while they have kept Gadget closed (sounds can only be created with Gadgets, not external synths) they have not been so closed about using the sounds outside Gadget -- and making Gadgets into audio units would be a continuation of that. It would not hurt the Gadget system and would be an added value to IAP Gagets.
    If on the other hand they supported au or IAA within or into Gadget, that would indeed be a complete reversal of their philosophy.

  • Peter321Peter321

    @nick said:

    @Noirflux said:

    @nick said:

    @Noirflux said:

    @vpich said:
    Would love that but would be a wierd step back in terms of marketing. They have succeeded in pushing a closed environment. They won. Why would they open up the au thing?

    I agree. They want people to buy into their app ecosystem. They can definitely get away with it because they are top quality. At the same time, it would be awesome if they did lol

    Why would that be a step back? you can already record individual Gadgets into DAWs via AudioBus or IAA. So Gadgets as Audio Units would only be the next step. And another selling point for the more expensive Gadgets.

    I was talking about from Korg's perspective. Gadget as an app, is closed compared to an app like Auria that encourages multiple app usage from different developers (AU, IAA etc;). Gadget can be used in other scenarios but only approved Gadget synths can be used within the app. I agreed with the earlier point made in that they spent the past few years keeping it closed. To all of a sudden go the AU route would be shocking in my head. However, stranger things have happened as seen on the best show in Netflix :D

    I was also talking from KORG's perspective :)
    I was trying to point out that while they have kept Gadget closed (sounds can only be created with Gadgets, not external synths) they have not been so closed about using the sounds outside Gadget -- and making Gadgets into audio units would be a continuation of that. It would not hurt the Gadget system and would be an added value to IAP Gagets.
    If on the other hand they supported au or IAA within or into Gadget, that would indeed be a complete reversal of their philosophy.

    I agree, it could make sense. You can already use iM1, iWaveStation, ARP ODYSSEi and Korg Module in other apps, as well as in Gadget.

    By making all the built in Gadgets available as AU and IAA instruments they expand their potential customer base for Gadget considerably, without loosing anything: Gadget users get more versatility and non-gadget users suddenly have a REALLY compelling reason to buy Gadget, even though they may never use the DAW part of it.

    The other way around (opening Gadget) does not make sense, since that would allow Gadget customers to buy 3rd party synths instead of the Korg ones, which is not in Korgs interest ;-)

  • knewspeakknewspeak

    @Peter321 said:

    @nick said:

    @Noirflux said:

    @nick said:

    @Noirflux said:

    @vpich said:
    Would love that but would be a wierd step back in terms of marketing. They have succeeded in pushing a closed environment. They won. Why would they open up the au thing?

    I agree. They want people to buy into their app ecosystem. They can definitely get away with it because they are top quality. At the same time, it would be awesome if they did lol

    Why would that be a step back? you can already record individual Gadgets into DAWs via AudioBus or IAA. So Gadgets as Audio Units would only be the next step. And another selling point for the more expensive Gadgets.

    I was talking about from Korg's perspective. Gadget as an app, is closed compared to an app like Auria that encourages multiple app usage from different developers (AU, IAA etc;). Gadget can be used in other scenarios but only approved Gadget synths can be used within the app. I agreed with the earlier point made in that they spent the past few years keeping it closed. To all of a sudden go the AU route would be shocking in my head. However, stranger things have happened as seen on the best show in Netflix :D

    I was also talking from KORG's perspective :)
    I was trying to point out that while they have kept Gadget closed (sounds can only be created with Gadgets, not external synths) they have not been so closed about using the sounds outside Gadget -- and making Gadgets into audio units would be a continuation of that. It would not hurt the Gadget system and would be an added value to IAP Gagets.
    If on the other hand they supported au or IAA within or into Gadget, that would indeed be a complete reversal of their philosophy.

    I agree, it could make sense. You can already use iM1, iWaveStation, ARP ODYSSEi and Korg Module in other apps, as well as in Gadget.

    By making all the built in Gadgets available as AU and IAA instruments they expand their potential customer base for Gadget considerably, without loosing anything: Gadget users get more versatility and non-gadget users suddenly have a REALLY compelling reason to buy Gadget, even though they may never use the DAW part of it.

    The other way around (opening Gadget) does not make sense, since that would allow Gadget customers to buy 3rd party synths instead of the Korg ones, which is not in Korgs interest ;-)

    No I can't see it opening up, but as a AU/VST to load inside another host, like Maschine and FLStudio, maybe.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @nick said:

    @Noirflux said:

    @vpich said:
    Would love that but would be a wierd step back in terms of marketing. They have succeeded in pushing a closed environment. They won. Why would they open up the au thing?

    I agree. They want people to buy into their app ecosystem. They can definitely get away with it because they are top quality. At the same time, it would be awesome if they did lol

    Why would that be a step back? you can already record individual Gadgets into DAWs via AudioBus or IAA. So Gadgets as Audio Units would only be the next step. And another selling point for the more expensive Gadgets.

    If they only provided them for purchase through the gadget app it wouldn't hurt their sales at all...you buy gadget, you buy a gadget IAP and you get to use it as AUv3....would be one way to do it.

  • SamuSamu

    @AndyPlankton said:

    If they only provided them for purchase through the gadget app it wouldn't hurt their sales at all...you buy gadget, you buy a gadget IAP and you get to use it as AUv3....would be one way to do it.

    That would be the only sensible way to do it :)

    I mean Korg does have a certain 'sound' to their stuff that is used all over the place and having all their stuff in one 'container' would be very handy indeed.

  • R_2R_2
    edited January 2017

    @Samu said:
    I'm hoping Gadget will finally get a bigger on-screen and pads with possibility to enter/play notes with different velocities.

    +1
    I want this more than any other addition.

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    If they do AUV3 on iOS it would be game over for everyone else seriously

  • SamuSamu

    @realdavidai said:
    If they do AUV3 on iOS it would be game over for everyone else seriously

    I doubt that...
    There are still many, many synths outside Gadget...
    What would 'shake' the playground would be if Gadget allowed us to host other AUv3's with full automation.

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @realdavidai said:
    If they do AUV3 on iOS it would be game over for everyone else seriously

    @realdavidai said:
    If they do AUV3 on iOS it would be game over for everyone else seriously

    Maybe. But Gadget's overall elegance allows me to forgive some pretty large limitations in the various Gadgets. I'm not sure I'd pay extra for any of them outside of Tokyo, London, Bilbao, Lexington. I love being able to load up Kingston or Helsinki, but that's maybe because they are free and integrate so beautifully.

  • AlleycatLAAlleycatLA

    @db909 said:
    Is it just me or does that button on the top right in some of the screenshots look like a Kaoss pad toggle switch? I HOPE SO!

    I suspect they rolled the configure utilities (currently a separate Mac/PC program) for nanoKEY Studio and nanoCONTROL Studio hardware into the gadget app. Hope so, it's a good idea!

  • Matver61Matver61

    I think Gadget on the big screen of a computer will help us rediscover this soft. As I know Gadget on IOS it will be awesome !! Even want to tweak the knobs with a mouse, to be more precise (don't have a IPad Pro...).

    Anyway, it's the first time that Korg, as a major company, is adapting a program from IOS to Mac OS and not the other way around! It's a great honour and I think Korg is reserving good surprises for this launch, both ways.

    (I hope so).

    Don't think it will be totally free though, but would appreciate a good offer.

  • R_2R_2

    One more night kids

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    I'm expecting some giving with one hand and some taking away with the other (even if that 'taking away' is more by way of omission than anything else...)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I'm expecting some giving with one hand and some taking away with the other (even if that 'taking away' is more by way of omission than anything else...)

    I'm a bit out of the loop on this - are they announcing new iOS Gadgets as well as the OSX stuff?

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I'm expecting some giving with one hand and some taking away with the other (even if that 'taking away' is more by way of omission than anything else...)

    I'm a bit out of the loop on this - are they announcing new iOS Gadgets as well as the OSX stuff?

    Everyone is hoping that the new gadgets spotted in the screenshots of the Mac version will be coming to iOS....
    No official word on anything yet....we just live in hope at the moment. :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I'm expecting some giving with one hand and some taking away with the other (even if that 'taking away' is more by way of omission than anything else...)

    I'm a bit out of the loop on this - are they announcing new iOS Gadgets as well as the OSX stuff?

    Everyone is hoping that the new gadgets spotted in the screenshots of the Mac version will be coming to iOS....
    No official word on anything yet....we just live in hope at the moment. :)

    I'll check down the back of the sofa, to see if I can find any coins...

  • PhilWPhilW

    I am full of hope and anticipation for this - shouldn't be too long now...

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear
    edited January 2017

    I wonder how much deliberation (if any) Apple/GB put into releasing their latest on the Wednesday before the supposed Korg update?

  • PhilWPhilW

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I wonder how much deliberation (if any) Apple/GB put into releasing their latest on the Wednesday before the supposed Korg update?

    Not a coincidence, on the eve of NAMM too.

  • realdavidairealdavidai
    edited January 2017

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I wonder how much deliberation (if any) Apple/GB put into releasing their latest on the Wednesday before the supposed Korg update?

    They did the same last year. If I recall correctly GB iOS was updated with AU Instruments support the day before NAMM started

  • Ivan_DjIvan_Dj
    edited January 2017

    After the "no GB Alchemy on Air 1, please sign the upgrade program", my eyes are on you Korg :)

  • TritonmanTritonman

    Has anyone with an Air 1 tried to run alchemy or does it just not appear?

  • Ivan_DjIvan_Dj

    @Tritonman said:
    Has anyone with an Air 1 tried to run alchemy or does it just not appear?

    Is not available in Air 1 :'(

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @Ivan_Dj said:

    @Tritonman said:
    Has anyone with an Air 1 tried to run alchemy or does it just not appear?

    Is not available in Air 1 :'(

    Suddenly this thread converted from Gadget to Alchemy ;-)

    I'm really looking forward to see today's announcement from Korg on NAMM..,
    Soooo excited!

  • TritonmanTritonman

    @Tritonman said:
    Has anyone with an Air 1 tried to run alchemy or does it just not appear?

    Oops, wrong thread, sorry.

  • TritonmanTritonman

    Yes hoping for new gadgets here.

  • Ivan_DjIvan_Dj

    @Tritonman said:
    Yes hoping for new gadgets here.

    Me too :D

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    I hope Gadgets are not AUV3.... because if so I would definitely lose my job.

  • AQ808AQ808

    I have a feeling they might be, as incentive for people to by module, iwavestation, etc.

    Korg's strategy they've taken with this is impeccable.

  • FrankieJayFrankieJay

    Any news folks

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