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Looking good!
What he’s looking for is tempo and time sig changes mid track, something NS2> @dwrae said:
@despego
This is what I meant up the thread, dude never stops.
Since your question to me about this and the other DAW I spoke about, I’ve moved full on back into AEM.
It’s so stable. The biggest revelation to me lately is the range tool. Once I got back into the workflow I’m finding the timeline tools unusually Smart and powerful compared to other stuff on iOS (it’s outstanding on Android, too)
Ha ha, “dude never stops” is a good way to say it. I got answers to my questions about a product I hadn’t bought in less than 5 minutes on a Sunday.
And it wasn’t just one question.
I have only opened it once. I guess I have to get used to it. I don’t like some of the dialog windows, kinds of kills my workflow (and somehow it irritates me that updates come first to Android) - so far my first world problems 😉
The thing is that I was coming to terms with NanoStudio. I really like it, every aspect of its UI, stability... everything. I had thought to use it to lay the foundations (backing track?) and then record MPE in audio in, say, AUM.
But I will surely give AEM a chance.
NS2 is amazing no question. I need the audio tracks, so I don’t spend as much time in it these days...
I understand. I don’t see MPE coming to NS2 so audio Would be the solution for me too. That’s why I looked at AEM. Let’s see how it goes.
Is there MIDI time-stretch in Audio Evolution? I see here that there is audio time-stretch so maybe there is MIDI too?
An old thread, I know, but it seems like it’s been going on for years, so I figured I’d chime in.
I don’t think so. I think Xequence 2 is the only app I know of that can do MIDI stretch.
That’s too bad. On iPhone, I think you’re right. On iPad, though, Auria Pro and MultitrackStudio both do MIDI time-stretch - in Auria you can time-stretch MIDI regions, while in MTS you can time-stretch selections of MIDI notes.
Didn’t know that. That’s cool. Good to see the more mature DAWs still holding their own
In Auria it actually isn’t in the manual but a very helpful member at the Auria forum, Rodolfo, posted about it.
I can add it, but may I ask the use case of midi time stretching? Is it a workaround for a lack of tempo change (since that will come soon as it is in the Android version)?
I record MIDI piano performances live without a click track, and I sometimes have minor timing errors where I either speed up or slow down a bit. Sometimes I leave them as is, but if it’s too much and I want to correct the tempo, I’ve found that MIDI time-stretch works very well for this purpose.
So where does AEM sit nowadays? How does it stack up against CB3 and NS2?
Let me add that MIDI time stretching often makes the most sense inside the piano roll where you have a beat grid and you can select a certain group of notes.
Yes! I completely agree. I much prefer MIDI time-stretching in DAWs that implement it inside the piano roll, such as MultitrackStudio (or on a computer, Reaper), than in DAWs where you can only MIDI time-stretch MIDI regions, such as Auria Pro (or Logic).
Hi, and thanks for the info. Can I ask whether the excellent synth from the Android version is coming to ios?
I’m not sure how, but when I responded to your post earlier, I did not notice that you are in fact the developer. Wow, yes, that would be great if you added MIDI time-stretch!
Ah, thanks for the feedback! A clip-based stretch would have been easier to make, but I'll see what I can do.
Well, I hope to release a big new version this week including the new effects section of the Android v5 version (effects grid with parallel effect paths, ToneBoosters v4 effects, side chain, parameter LFO's, etc.), MIDI clock sync, triplets in the drum pattern editor and some other minor things.
The synth is already 'compiled' into this version, there is just no way to select it yet. The reason is that there are already so many changes in this version that, although it has been tested, the more changes, the more chances on bugs you run into that we may have missed. The synth is basically an optimised version of 'Synth One' that you can download for free from the App Store and select it as AUv3 instrument. It will of course have a different UI (as you can see it in the Android version). So, when things go smooth, I will probably release it a week or so after the 'effects' release, together with Vocal Tune PRO.
Then somewhere end December/early January, the new optional user interface behavior for the main timeline screen will come.
Wow, that would be fantastic! If you do create MIDI time-stretch for AEM, might I make one request/suggestion: please make it so that time-stretching the MIDI notes also stretches the associated CC data.
As an example of how not to do it, in Studio One 5 MIDI time-stretch does not stretch the corresponding CC data. I found this bizarre: if you’re recording MIDI piano, this means that your notes are being time-stretched but your sustain pedaling is not! Quite a mess.
Noted!
Then comes the question what to do with the events after the part you wish to stretch. Do you want them moved automatically ?
How capable is Audio Evolution at audio editing?. Bought Auria for this but it’s crashing hell.
I mean: cross fades, region merging, committing audio (bounce in place), editing a portion of audio... Like editing a guitar take to fix some offending note. Basic stuff that’s nowhere to be found in other daws except for Auria.
Looked at the manual but can’t see anything about this.
Cheers!.
Actually, I have never even thought of that - I don’t think any DAW (on iOS or on computer) does that automatically, at least none that I am aware of.
In the DAWs I have used that time-stretch MIDI notes in the piano roll, the rest of the project, ie, the notes that come after the newly time-stretched MIDI notes, is left as it was.
But now that I’m thinking about it, automatically moving the notes that come after the time-stretched part would be a cool option!
I just wanted to chime in and say that I had the same experience: Auria crashes constantly on my current-gen iPad Mini. I also have a 2017 iPad Pro and Auria doesn’t crash much on it. But on the iPad Mini Auria crashes so frequently that it is effectively unusable. That’s what led me to seek out other alternatives, first MultitrackStudio, and now also AEM.
It could ask to do that after the stretch. I just checked out how it's done in Reaper. They of course have the luxury of holding a modifier key like 'Alt' to do something different than resizing or moving, but I'll figure something out.
I love the implementation in Reaper. Reaper is my primary computer DAW, in fact.
Considering that when I asked for this feature in Studio One 5, PreSonus had me post the request to an online list where requests are apparently only looked at if they get enough user likes, it is incredible to me to be able to make a request directly to the developer in real time! Thank you very much!
Oh, I forgot to say that asking to do that after the stretch would be a great option!
No problem. What I can do is add a toggle button in 'Edit' mode in the piano roll called 'Time stretch', that when activated, resizing one or more selected notes will stretch those notes including all non-note events in that area.
Oh my gosh, this would be perfect! Thank you in advance!