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Audio Evolution Mobile DAW

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  • LeftyChrisLeftyChris
    edited November 2020

    @LeftyChris said:

    @dwrae said:

    @LeftyChris said:
    Incidentally, I don’t know about other users, but the fact that I can run AEM on my phone as well as my iPads is a big plus. The other two DAWs I use/have used are iPad only and I have often found this frustrating when I want to tweak something and I only have my phone with me.

    I looked into iCloud years ago, but it's like anything Apple: they have to do everything different just for the sake of it. DropBox and Drive behave like you expect: you just have a file system with folders. iCloud doesn't have such a thing (or at least not when I investigated it), which complicates matters enormously. I am not saying it cannot be done, it's just frustrating.

    I can only comment on the user end since I don’t know what Apple has going on behind the scenes, but for the user there is now a file system with folders in the iCloud. On iPhone and iPad you now access iCloud through an app called Files, in fact.

    Well, actually, I should qualify that - photos, saved music (in the old iTunes app), and PDFs saved in the Apple Books app are all in the iCloud but they are not accessed via the file system, which is quite irritating. But everything that Apple chose to have listed under “iCloud Drive” is accessible through the Files app on iOS and in the Finder on Mac.

    So I should have said that on iPhone and iPad you now access iCloud •Drive• through an app called Files.

  • dwraedwrae

    @LeftyChris said:
    I can only comment on the user end since I don’t know what Apple has going on behind the scenes, but for the user there is now a file system with folders in the iCloud. On iPhone and iPad you now access iCloud through an app called Files, in fact.

    I'll check if they have an improved API these days.

  • LeftyChrisLeftyChris

    @dwrae said:

    @LeftyChris said:
    I can only comment on the user end since I don’t know what Apple has going on behind the scenes, but for the user there is now a file system with folders in the iCloud. On iPhone and iPad you now access iCloud through an app called Files, in fact.

    I'll check if they have an improved API these days.

    Very cool! I don’t believe any of the major iOS DAWs currently use iCloud (outside of GarageBand, of course) but I have several smaller and less complex music apps that do and it works well. Two apps I like that save or back up to the iCloud are Thafknar, which is by a Swedish developer, I believe, and MIDI Recorder with E.Piano, by a Japanese developer who has several interesting music apps.

  • dwraedwrae

    @LeftyChris said:
    Very cool! I don’t believe any of the major iOS DAWs currently use iCloud (outside of GarageBand, of course) but I have several smaller and less complex music apps that do and it works well. Two apps I like that save or back up to the iCloud are Thafknar, which is by a Swedish developer, I believe, and MIDI Recorder with E.Piano, by a Japanese developer who has several interesting music apps.

    Back-up is easier than the cloud sync feature in AEM where you can sync individual files. When the Drive and DropBox support was made, the developer I hired to add that also did a iCloud variant, but it was based on zipping the project and sending the zipped file to iCloud, which is not on par with what the app offers when using Drive/DropBox, so back then I decided not to add it.

  • LeftyChrisLeftyChris

    @dwrae said:

    @LeftyChris said:
    Very cool! I don’t believe any of the major iOS DAWs currently use iCloud (outside of GarageBand, of course) but I have several smaller and less complex music apps that do and it works well. Two apps I like that save or back up to the iCloud are Thafknar, which is by a Swedish developer, I believe, and MIDI Recorder with E.Piano, by a Japanese developer who has several interesting music apps.

    Back-up is easier than the cloud sync feature in AEM where you can sync individual files. When the Drive and DropBox support was made, the developer I hired to add that also did a iCloud variant, but it was based on zipping the project and sending the zipped file to iCloud, which is not on par with what the app offers when using Drive/DropBox, so back then I decided not to add it.

    That doesn’t sound good, sending zip files to the iCloud - I see why you did not implement that. The Dropbox implementation is great - if the cloud sync feature could be the same in iCloud as it is in Dropbox, that would be awesome. But now I’m starting to feel like a greedy child asking for too many presents!

  • dwraedwrae

    @LeftyChris said:
    That doesn’t sound good, sending zip files to the iCloud - I see why you did not implement that. The Dropbox implementation is great - if the cloud sync feature could be the same in iCloud as it is in Dropbox, that would be awesome. But now I’m starting to feel like a greedy child asking for too many presents!

    It's only logical to add it at some point, but there are currently other priorities.. :wink:

  • LeftyChrisLeftyChris

    @dwrae said:

    @LeftyChris said:
    That doesn’t sound good, sending zip files to the iCloud - I see why you did not implement that. The Dropbox implementation is great - if the cloud sync feature could be the same in iCloud as it is in Dropbox, that would be awesome. But now I’m starting to feel like a greedy child asking for too many presents!

    It's only logical to add it at some point, but there are currently other priorities.. :wink:

    Everything you’re doing to the app sounds cool - I look forward to all of it!

  • ashhashh

    The signal from this, the sound, is very different to any other mobile DAW I've used. In a good way. Is that possible? Question to the maker of the app. Or anyone who might know.

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    @dwrae AudioEvo is really good. Would be good to choose some different colour schemes from the brown&yellow Ui . Also I find the timeline Audio editing a bit shaky when selecting parts/regions because the scroll is quite sensitive. The sound engine, internal plugins and TB plugins though are excellent.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @dwrae Maybe it's time for a new video tutorial series? A more "focused" than the already existing?

  • dwraedwrae
    edited November 2020

    @despego said:
    @dwrae Maybe it's time for a new video tutorial series? A more "focused" than the already existing?

    We had 5 new ones made on Evolution One, the Fx Grid, LFO's, the new user interface behavior etc.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @dwrae said:

    @despego said:
    @dwrae Maybe it's time for a new video tutorial series? A more "focused" than the already existing?

    We had 5 new ones made on Evolution One, the Fx Grid, LFO's, the new user interface behavior etc.

    Nice!
    It's been a while, I acknowledge.
    I will have a look soon.

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @dwrae I didn't buy Cubasis 3 because I have Audio Evolution. Congrats on a solid piece of software.

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    This week has been a long week and today’s only Monday

  • rs2000rs2000

    @dwrae the new MIDI time stretch and note velocity editing are awesome!!!
    Thanks also for fixing the "DYN" note length 😊

    BTW, I find the built-in WebDAV server much more useful than any stupid cloud service, nothing beats the speed of local WiFi.

  • purpan2purpan2

    Hi. Just wondering whether there’s any news on the update? (I apologise for being pushy, but it’s just enthusiasm!)

  • dwraedwrae

    @purpan2 said:
    Hi. Just wondering whether there’s any news on the update? (I apologise for being pushy, but it’s just enthusiasm!)

    No problem. We are doing some final tests. Hopefully Friday..

  • purpan2purpan2

    Ace, thanks very much.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @dwrae: Do I recall that you are planning on implementing the ability to record audio in loop with the ability to save/move the takes that got recorded?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    In the manual, I couldn’t see how to turn off using the the matrix for insert effects and using the simpler insert effect interface.

  • Morgman73Morgman73

    Please implement less shaky timeline editing. It hinders me from using more.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @espiegel123 said:
    In the manual, I couldn’t see how to turn off using the the matrix for insert effects and using the simpler insert effect interface.

    I found it. It is in preferences.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @dwrae : I am finding that if I have a midi track record enabled and am loop playing to practice that every time it loops, AEM sends note offs for any notes currently ringing. Since I am not recording, I find this surprising (and kind of interrupts the flow.

  • dwraedwrae

    @espiegel123 said:
    @dwrae: Do I recall that you are planning on implementing the ability to record audio in loop with the ability to save/move the takes that got recorded?

    Not for audio at this moment, but there was a request for MIDI loop recording which is far simpler since it doesn't need a system where you can select and merge takes.

  • dwraedwrae

    @Morgman73 said:
    Please implement less shaky timeline editing. It hinders me from using more.

    There is a new user interface behavior for the time line coming up, just as in our Android v5 version.

  • dwraedwrae

    @espiegel123 said:
    @dwrae : I am finding that if I have a midi track record enabled and am loop playing to practice that every time it loops, AEM sends note offs for any notes currently ringing. Since I am not recording, I find this surprising (and kind of interrupts the flow.

    If no note off's were sent at the end, it would remain ringing forever.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @dwrae said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @dwrae : I am finding that if I have a midi track record enabled and am loop playing to practice that every time it loops, AEM sends note offs for any notes currently ringing. Since I am not recording, I find this surprising (and kind of interrupts the flow.

    If no note off's were sent at the end, it would remain ringing forever.

    ??

    I am not recording just playing live. Note offs will happen when I take my fingers off the keys. It seems to me unless you are recording there is no reason to manage the note offs. When someone is playing without recording , the behavior isn't desirable.

  • dwraedwrae

    @espiegel123 said:
    I am not recording just playing live. Note offs will happen when I take my fingers off the keys. It seems to me unless you are recording there is no reason to manage the note offs. When someone is playing without recording , the behavior isn't desirable.

    Note off's for the notes in the clip that you are looping are needed.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @dwrae said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    I am not recording just playing live. Note offs will happen when I take my fingers off the keys. It seems to me unless you are recording there is no reason to manage the note offs. When someone is playing without recording , the behavior isn't desirable.

    Note off's for the notes in the clip that you are looping are needed.

    I think you aren't understanding. These aren't recorded notes. I am not talking about the app sending note offs to a track that has no recorded notes.

    Steps:

    • record audio onto track 1
    • Create an empty track 2 that uses a midi instrument
    • Loop a section of the timeline
    • Record enable track 2 so that you can play your midi instrument and hear it
    • Press play (not record)
    • Okay along with the loop to practice

    Every loop cycle note offs are played for notes being played live.

    I can understand why you would send them for recorded notes. But these are not being recorded. This isn't typical DAW behavior of monitored notes during playback.

    Desktop DAWs, Auria, Cubasis and others don't interfere with notes being monitored in this regard. Remember these aren't being recorded or played back.

  • dwraedwrae

    @espiegel123 said:

    @dwrae said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    I am not recording just playing live. Note offs will happen when I take my fingers off the keys. It seems to me unless you are recording there is no reason to manage the note offs. When someone is playing without recording , the behavior isn't desirable.

    Note off's for the notes in the clip that you are looping are needed.

    I think you aren't understanding. These aren't recorded notes. I am not talking about the app sending note offs to a track that has no recorded notes.

    Steps:

    • record audio onto track 1
    • Create an empty track 2 that uses a midi instrument
    • Loop a section of the timeline
    • Record enable track 2 so that you can play your midi instrument and hear it
    • Press play (not record)
    • Okay along with the loop to practice

    Every loop cycle note offs are played for notes being played live.

    I can understand why you would send them for recorded notes. But these are not being recorded. This isn't typical DAW behavior of monitored notes during playback.

    Desktop DAWs, Auria, Cubasis and others don't interfere with notes being monitored in this regard. Remember these aren't being recorded or played back.

    Aha, thanks for the detailed explanation! I'll check it out.

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