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And here an unboxing video of the 2017 iPad. Also enjoy the cool background music
Well it's the 5th iPad that wasn't air or pro or mini....
After i had a look at benchmarks and comparison with Air 2 and Pro i have to say that i still feel very comfortable with the air 2.No need for me to upgrade in the foreseeable future.When i bought it at release i was worried about the thinness of it but it turned out to be suprisingly sturdy.I never carry it in a cover at home for example and i don't treat it like a raw egg.The battery is also still (almost)as good as new.Great device.
Heh, and I thought it was just me! I also came from an iPad 2, spent a brief time on an Air 1 then got my own Air 2. I don't like this screen for touching, have always had issues with it. Amazon UK is the worst for me but opposite to what you describe, if I scroll a list anywhere in the centre of the screen, it will immediately take me into one of the list items, of course, swiping back and I'm at the top of the list again & lost my place. Other times, it registers my pressing the screen by highlighting a link, but doesn't actually "click" it. Since Apple turned the keyboard into a virtual touch-pad for moving the cursor (iOS 9?) I think I've aged 5 years from the frustration of it constantly wiping what I've just typed. Good job I'm a calm, relaxed person ...
Ah, in that case, try and use Homebase's site - it does just that - selects everything you think of putting your finger near to swipe and move, and when you scroll, half the page doesn't exist, then it does.
Any reports on if it's the exact same size as the iPad Air, i.e., would it work in an iPad Air keyboard case ?
Answered my own question:
"With an identical size and shape to the iPad Air, you'd think that cases from the older model would be fine. They mostly are, but some things don't line up right.
There's no physical lock switch on the new iPad, and the speaker holes extend a bit further on the new iPad than most cases have holes for —but otherwise, even form-fitting protective cases like the Newer KX pictured here work just fine."
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/03/30/first-impressions-of-apples-2017-97-inch-a9-powered-ipad
Yeah, the multicore score is almost identical. New one is considerably better in single core score, but I imagine processor intensive apps use multiple cores? I still haven't been able to get a definitive answer to this, like how e.g. Korg Gadget uses the cores. If multiple cores are used Air 2 should give similar performance to the 2017 iPad.
I'm waiting for what will hopefully be a new PRO announcement in the fall. Must say the Air 2 have been my best iPad investment - still so good after more than 2 years.
Toss up between the original ipad2 and the air 2 for me ipad2 for its longevity.
Yeah, I have found the Air2 really hit a sweet spot on price / performance. Now the Pro has risen in UK price and the new 2017 iPad is a step back in the screen used, I'm thinking Air2 second hand prices will probably remain quite high for a while. 9.7 Pro second hand prices may fall if the new models come in this year though. Especially if the new nearly borderless Pro becomes a reality.
Okay still unclear to me whether the iPad2017 is so much better than the Air 2 in real use. The Benchmarks of teh 2017 are much better. If anybody has reviews or articles to this questions I like to hear it.
You ask if the new model 'is so much better in real use' and then discuss benchmarks. Real world enjoyment of use is more than just raw horse power.
Lets take for example running the many apps I do on my iPad Air2. Fine, it runs lots of apps before it chokes. To be honest, other things come into effect before I hit the processor load problem. Running more and more apps is not a stable thing on iOS at this time. I would gain much more real world use by having two iPads with extra screen real estate than by having a processor that is still hampered by having a finite amount of RAM.
So real world use needs real world use scenarios for us to help with your question. I seriously doubt that the new iPad will give you much real world app use over an Air2. I can say though, the screen of my Air2 is much nicer to use than my landladys Air1.
For the UK prices, I can still get a 128gb Air2 for just £20 more than the new 2017 iPad brand new. I have seen them cheaper from certain places too that I can't vouch for the service quality of. Your country may be a different price deal and that could change the picture entirely. For the price in the U.K, the Pro model is way too expensive for my needs as I don't need the pencil use and while the processor would give me more power in some ways, it is still held back by the 2gb RAM (the 12" model has a big advantage in RAM).
I honestly personally would not get too hung up on the slight processor advantage of the new model, unless the price you can get it for gives you that warm fuzzy feeling
When are the quad core ipad pro 2s coming. Just wondering if they'll come with extinguishers?
Still leaning towards the new model here. Looking forward to real world reports first but the price is right if it is even close to as good as it looks so far on paper. As more apps hit requiring more horsepower the newer version definitely seems to be for me at least.
I think this is aimed squarely at those of us with iPads older than Air 2, or any other iPads with prettier screens. We're the upgrade holdouts dragging down the iPad sales figures and there's nothing in the 2017 iPad to hold us back if we're tempted.
Now maybe there will > @bigcatrik said:
Hopefully this will help shift the installed base to a higher proportion of capable machines to make life easier for iOS/Audio developers
It really should be an "instabuy" for anyone with a maxed-out older 16GB iPad (and a decent job), with the performance boost being gravy. I have two 'older' 32GB iPads (Air 1 and Mini 2) with about half the storage still available, and the 10.3 upgrade gave me back space so the $329 price point isn't immediately tempting like it would be if they were full or I had any performance issues (luckily they're both powerful enough for any tasks I give them), but 128 GB at $429 sounds really good. Almost too good...
Are Samsung making them?
You are right! Now I'm confused about the point I was trying to make
This iPad was aimed squarely at users like me who have aging iPad2, iPad3 and iPad4s and get them to think about upgrading what are arguably still functioning units. If it wasn't for me dropping my iPad2 a few weekends ago and smashing the screen, I'd still be using it albeit it did choke on the modern apps like Patterning, Group The Loop and Infinite Looper and Quantiloop.
Those in the target market will be getting significantly better displays, much better performance and 2GB of onboard RAM and a base 32GB of memory. And a pretty good deal at $329US.
So I am buying a new iPad this weekend and will report back on my experience, which I expect will be glowing since I am the target market. Those of you with Air 2s need not worry about this iPad being better than yours.
what about iPad mini 4 users?
Agree with your last point. Here in the EU the iPad 2017 is 409 euro's (big difference with US price) the Air 2 does 2nd hand around 300 the 16GB 250 euros.
New Air2 128gb models are still about though. It's just an option for some. I'm not anti the new model in any way, I just see Air2s as a good option still at this time depending on an individuals needs. The US price is quite the bargain though - not so much so in many other countries.
The Mini 4 has the laminated screen and anti-reflective coating that I know nothing about (as an Air 1 and Mini 2 owner) but the bigger screen might be an inducement. I find I use the smaller and bigger screens for different purposes even though those two are, in all other ways, equivalent devices.
I saw the $329 iPad in person today and compared it to the Mini 4 and 12" Pro and, nope, I didn't see a noticeable difference in the screens.
Afaik US prices are without taxes (because the tax differs from state to state) while the € prices are with tax included.Therefore the price difference should be a little smaller.
Yes that's true. That still does not take into account the UK price hike, which does not correspond at all with the changes to the exchange rate.
Is the US tax on the iPad $102? Because that's the price difference with Euroland. I think it's more a "because-we-can" premium we're paying
It's probably easiest to see with a simple before and after comparison:
Base iPads used to cost $499 US and £399 UK
New iPad costs $329 US and £339 UK
so now that we look at the change in the exchange rate in that period, it's clear to see that UK prices have risen and quite beyond the change in the exchange rate since Brexit.
@brambos that's why i wrote "a LITTLE"
Does anyone know the average US taxes that are on top of the sale price?
Sales taxes are from 0% to around 10%. Average around 6% roughly