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BeatMaker 3 July 15th.

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  • kobamotokobamoto

    don't quote me but I think samu said something about expecting them to do just that a while back, I remember being interested as well and deciding to wait because of something he said

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2017

    @kobamoto said:
    so you are comparing features + price only, that's your concern noted. but you can search my comparisons all you want... I never compare only price and features.. it's not even my concern... if it was the elektron rytm 2(as long as it has all digitakt features) wouldn't be my most probably next purchase...... if it doesn't have those features then I'll go with digitakt+new ipad...
    the only thing I'm concerned about are the things you're interested in overlooking.... no matter what either of us say the most classic music will still have been made on machines that we generally don't talk about

    Not only but aside workflow which is a matter of taste. You said "exponential" and that wasn't true even using... an mpc reinnassence xD

    Anyways I'm not talking just to you. I was answering the question from the other user but it seemed an answer to you. I finished with "matter of taste" since workflow and the difficult to compare them that you pointed. The thing is BM3 is a killer mpc for "what you get" not for "how do you get to it".

    Hiphop headz don't care about vsts but I remember realtime timestretching being one of the point sales for most of them.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @Dubbylabby said:

    @kobamoto said:
    so you are comparing features + price only, that's your concern noted. but you can search my comparisons all you want... I never compare only price and features.. it's not even my concern... if it was the elektron rytm 2(as long as it has all digitakt features) wouldn't be my most probably next purchase...... if it doesn't have those features then I'll go with digitakt+new ipad...
    the only thing I'm concerned about are the things you're interested in overlooking.... no matter what either of us say the most classic music will still have been made on machines that we generally don't talk about

    Not only but aside workflow which is a matter of taste. You said "exponential" and that wasn't true even using... an mpc reinnassence xD

    Anyways I'm not talking just to you. I was answering the question from the other user but it seemed an answer to you. I finished with "matter of taste" since workflow and the difficult to compare them that you pointed. The thing is BM3 is a killer mpc for "what you get" not for "how do you get to it".

    Hiphop headz don't care about vsts but I remember realtime timestretching being one of the point sales for most of them.

    I just like the word exponential :D but I think time stretching is used more In other genres than hiphop.... I love the feature though... I love all of the features.

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even see transient detection on BM3. Am I wrong?

  • kobamotokobamoto

    I thought I read on intua's site that it had transient dt

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2017

    @kobamoto said:

    @Dubbylabby said:

    @kobamoto said:
    so you are comparing features + price only, that's your concern noted. but you can search my comparisons all you want... I never compare only price and features.. it's not even my concern... if it was the elektron rytm 2(as long as it has all digitakt features) wouldn't be my most probably next purchase...... if it doesn't have those features then I'll go with digitakt+new ipad...
    the only thing I'm concerned about are the things you're interested in overlooking.... no matter what either of us say the most classic music will still have been made on machines that we generally don't talk about

    Not only but aside workflow which is a matter of taste. You said "exponential" and that wasn't true even using... an mpc reinnassence xD

    Anyways I'm not talking just to you. I was answering the question from the other user but it seemed an answer to you. I finished with "matter of taste" since workflow and the difficult to compare them that you pointed. The thing is BM3 is a killer mpc for "what you get" not for "how do you get to it".

    Hiphop headz don't care about vsts but I remember realtime timestretching being one of the point sales for most of them.

    I just like the word exponential :D but I think time stretching is used more In other genres than hiphop.... I love the feature though... I love all of the features.

    The funniest thing is I still prefer Blocs+Launchpad but I buyed for "warping-like" features... :bawling: I don't want to use it more than that and "scene launching" ATM. I hope find what other things it has I can get benefits. :sweat_smile:

    @Icepulse said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even see transient detection on BM3. Am I wrong?

    Idk if it does transient but it has automatic and more "modes". Take a look.(over 3:41 if you don't want to see all)

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    No lazy chop, no transient detection. Boooo.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2017

    @Icepulse said:
    No lazy chop, no transient detection. Boooo.

    You can load ReSlice as AU until it's addressed...(?)

    Edit: I tried and works. Even pasting from clipboard (AudioShare) or better said from that since I didn't find the load sample button in the AU window :lol: but it was there since I opened first ReSlice standalone so... straightforward (I use those very few so goofy-test aproveed)

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @Icepulse said:
    No lazy chop, no transient detection. Boooo.

    really no transient???

  • KühlKühl

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @Kühl said:
    Finally...
    after waiting since midnight lol

    Waiting since March...

    I meant being awake... but I must have fallen asleep after all, it's night again lol
    I have been poking around in bm3 for an hour now, and to me, it looks really good. But there ain't many sounds in the packs you buy, about 10-12 presets... I haven't figured it all out yet. I don't have the habit of reading user manuals, learning as a go

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Dubbylabby said:

    @Icepulse said:
    No lazy chop, no transient detection. Boooo.

    You can load ReSlice as AU until it's addressed...(?)

    Huh? I thought BM3 was supposed to be the mother of all sampler beat making apps but there's no transient sample chop?

  • kobamotokobamoto

    it definitely said transient detection on their site, but can't find it now,

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    @Dubbylabby said:

    @Icepulse said:
    No lazy chop, no transient detection. Boooo.

    You can load ReSlice as AU until it's addressed...(?)

    Oh, for another sawbuck? No thanks! The MPC LIve is already paying for itself!!

    :D

  • kobamotokobamoto

    this quote used to be on their site but it's gone now

    "BeatMaker 3 will launch on July 15th 2017 on the App Store at a special intro ... Slice mode for live chopping of samples, with transient detection, split, divide,"

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @5pinlink said:

    @Dubbylabby said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @Dubbylabby said:

    @kobamoto said:
    so you are comparing features + price only, that's your concern noted. but you can search my comparisons all you want... I never compare only price and features.. it's not even my concern... if it was the elektron rytm 2(as long as it has all digitakt features) wouldn't be my most probably next purchase...... if it doesn't have those features then I'll go with digitakt+new ipad...
    the only thing I'm concerned about are the things you're interested in overlooking.... no matter what either of us say the most classic music will still have been made on machines that we generally don't talk about

    Not only but aside workflow which is a matter of taste. You said "exponential" and that wasn't true even using... an mpc reinnassence xD

    Anyways I'm not talking just to you. I was answering the question from the other user but it seemed an answer to you. I finished with "matter of taste" since workflow and the difficult to compare them that you pointed. The thing is BM3 is a killer mpc for "what you get" not for "how do you get to it".

    Hiphop headz don't care about vsts but I remember realtime timestretching being one of the point sales for most of them.

    I just like the word exponential :D but I think time stretching is used more In other genres than hiphop.... I love the feature though... I love all of the features.

    The funniest thing is I still prefer Blocs+Launchpad but I buyed for "warping-like" features... :bawling: I don't want to use it more than that and "scene launching" ATM. I hope find what other things it has I can get benefits. :sweat_smile:

    @Icepulse said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even see transient detection on BM3. Am I wrong?

    Idk if it does transient but it has automatic and more "modes". Take a look.(over 3:41 if you don't want to see all)

    Yeah i expected this to be up there with Launchpad and Remixlive for clip triggering, but it is far far from it, unless there are some hidden pages, need to go search for a manual i think haha

    I need to dig into it mate... midi control without launch controllers (foot pedal ie) can be a godsend...

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @kobamoto said:
    this quote used to be on their site but it's gone now

    "BeatMaker 3 will launch on July 15th 2017 on the App Store at a special intro ... Slice mode for live chopping of samples, with transient detection, split, divide,"

    Wow I wonder what changed. Would've been cool if they could have said coming in future update at least rather than just delete it like that

  • kobamotokobamoto
    edited July 2017

    says transient detection right here, just scroll down or search transient

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ka67-CYbyXYJ:www.synthanatomy.com/2017/06/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    And now, it's doesn't look quite like that MPC Live killer we were talking about, 3 pages ago.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    also here

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YZ08a_fZFTMJ:intua.net/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

  • kobamotokobamoto

    it's gotta be there, you don't just yank something like that out... must be hidden under something

  • ciancian

    You yank out if it doesn't work

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    The in-app manual mentions "detect" as an option, under the "auto slice" menu. But in the app? Nahhh...

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    Maybe some features are absent in older iPads. GarageBand does that with Alchemy. My phone gets it, my Mini 2 doesn't. Scales down.

  • greengrocergreengrocer

    @kobamoto said:
    also here

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YZ08a_fZFTMJ:intua.net/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

    This for pointing to this. Just wait for what the dev has to say about this before buying

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2017

    @Icepulse said:
    And now, it's doesn't look quite like that MPC Live killer we were talking about, 3 pages ago.

    It has the same strategy to announce features and drop them after :lol:

    I keep looking for that and other things. I don't find (since I think it's still not there) how to map launch scenes @5pinlink but maybe those will be addressed or maybe it's just me being retard :trollface:
    Anyways loading AUs could bypassed it without hassle (and also let users load mastering or audio/midi fx into it) How do do you dare with timestretching issue in the mpc @Icepulse? :wink:

    I will try to update myself meanwhile @mathieugarcia fixes the other stuff :bawling:

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    @Dubbylabby said:

    @Icepulse said:
    And now, it's doesn't look quite like that MPC Live killer we were talking about, 3 pages ago.

    It has the same strategy to announce features and drop them after :lol:

    I keep looking for that and other things. I don't find (since I think it's still not there) how to map launch scenes @5pinlink but maybe those will be addressed or maybe it's just me being retard :trollface:
    Anyways loading AUs could bypassed it without hassle (and also let users load mastering or audio/midi fx into it) How do do you dare with timestretching issue in the mpc @Icepulse? :wink:

    I will try to update myself meanwhile @mathieugarcia fixes the other stuff :bawling:

    There's timestretching; it's just not real time in standalone. You can adjust pitch or time independently, as a processing action.

  • DefRobotDefRobot

    Ok, well, Reslice is currently available for 9.99, but what else is currently missing or not working?
    Not yet downloaded as I've been made to watch crap on tv this evening!

  • GratouilliGratouilli

    BM2 is 752 Mo while BM3 is only 121 Mo ! Is this just a fantastic optimisation of the code ?

  • kobamotokobamoto
    edited July 2017

    it's got realtime, just not worth using unless you want that type of sound, it's like a little worse than beats mode in ableton..... I wish akai gave us the high quality elastic pro that they have in the 2.0 software, I understand that in stand alone mode it would be too much on the resources but it's so easy to resample stuff on the mpc live that it would have still been super useful. the offline stretching is still pretty good though

  • IcepulseIcepulse
    edited July 2017

    @Dubbylabby the feature set on the Live is WELL worth the asking price. Lots of people try to weed out an omission, as a way of trashing the device, but the fact is, it's in a class by itself. I've championed iPad music creation since iPad 1, and it's fantastic as a cheap source of endless sounds. But for me, it's an instrument. My inspiration can get squashed pretty quickly when I try to negotiate a full compliment of apps and getting them all working together.

    But I come from a long history of performance-minded bandwork.

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