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Gentleman. You have both made your points.
I know you are both trying to come out top on this argument but life is too short and this is also clogging up the thread which could be better served highlighting improvements etc that will serve us all in the long run.
Peace love and music.
Actually. I take back what I said about the sequencer. If you keep enough space between the pads it's actually easy to look at a glance which instrument plays where. The lanes show the timing of each pad so that's good enough.
Positive experience with BM3, the mixing and automation options are extensive, I like the macro controllers. Being able to stack multiple samples, apps, FX, and adjust each layer per pad is really great.
I did have a crash after I'd switched the location of the samples used in a bank in the current session. This was a somewhat. bonehead move on my part though I do tend to do this sort of thing with new apps just to see how much idiot proofing or the degree to which the developer has taken into account how users might use their app and prevent them or warn them of impending danger.
When I went into the app again my automatically saved session was messed up as the bank I'd been working on couldn't find the samples it depended on. Ideally, an app would be smart enough to let you know that changing the location of the samples you're using will cause problems and give you some sort of warning message. I tried to repair the bank by loading the samples in which didn't work. I'll have to read the manual to understand the various saving options so I can make informed decisions about how to create setups in the future (this is to be expected).
I've written extensively about the sample folder change/bank issue simply because it could really mess someone up if they created a number of banks and didn't save them in a certain way such that they'd lose all of their work which would be very frustrating for them. These are the sorts of experiences that can sour a user against using an app which may frequently lead to bad reviews.
Perhaps the skill set needed to create an app makes it difficult for developers or similarly logic oriented beta testers to understand how some users may attempt to use the app which then leads to significant problems?
My experience with Ableton Live is about as minimal as it gets. I clearly don't get how some of the pattern, song, and session work so I'll have to read the manual to see how far that gets me. In my opinion, reading a manual to understand how to use an app with a multitude of options isn't a negative thing and is to be expected.
I don't see any context sensitive built-in help function for the app (e.g. Patterning) which I think would be very helpful for an app with many options like BM3. Even after I read a manual, I don't always remember the details and it can be awkward to have a manual open and switch between it and the app. I'll open the manual up on a different device so I can read it and see the app it's referring to at the same time. For me, context sensitive help really enhances the experience of using an app.
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the sequencer/bank/pad logic. Is it correct that it's not possible to use more than one sequencer track per bank? So you always have to sequence everything that's loaded into one bank with one track/pattern?
What I want to achieve is quite simple and has been my workflow for ages, including BM2: One "instrument" (e.g. bank A) is containing a whole bunch of percussion samples. I want to keep the base, snare hi hats on separate (midi) tracks so it's easy to edit them separately, shift them around, mute them (in the sequencer, not the mixer) etc.
This doesn't seem to be possible anymore? Am I blind? How do you sequence stuff?
yep. it seems that way. (or i'm blind as well. maybe @Samu could elighten us) i'm actually gonna move back to using modstep to sequence stuff inside bm3 till i'm ready to "commit" the patterns.
When in 'perform view' with the pads, tap on where it says 'Playing song'...
When you have that panel open at the bottom there is '+ create pattern' you can make as many patterns per bank as you like...
Do you think you will continue using this as a main daw once your electricity situation gets fixed
@idexis and @5pinlink
Guys, I've been trying to catch up with people's impressions of the app and I get your bickering interweaved in the thread that totally fucks with the reading flow. Can you just please continue privately so everyone else can get the info they're after?
It's been going for such a long time that I doubt you'll resolve your differences but at least everyone doesn't have to witness your escalations. Cheers.
Here's a question. The pattern includes all the bank instruments right ? The problem with this is there isn't an easy way to move say pad b by a few notes left or right in the song view. Or can you somehow make the patterns per pad ? One of the main uses of a timeline in ableton for me is being able to offset and move around midi patterns. Otherwise I think modsteps piano roll and step sequencer functions are just more useful. Specially since you can see individual patterns per instrument. Also offsetting a pattern takes a few taps.
That being said Bm3 has its uses. I think I might just move from modstep+Aum to modstep+Bm3.
My main IOS daw yes. Overall daw will forever be ableton. To be honest Bm3 will probably replace Aum in my usual IOS setup. So Modstep+Bm3.
Here's a hack most newbies might not get:
Build up your bank of sounds and get an 8 bar pattern going. In the main menu go to export and select tracks. Then select the tracks in each bank, the first one is the entire channel and the rest are the individual pads. Then go to song and add in your audio tracks. Back in the menu go to file manager and get your exported sequences. Drag each one in to each of the audio tracks. From there you can do your arrangement using copy paste. Are there other ways to do it? Of course but this is a very logical straightforward way to do it.
Edit: you can also do this in scenes but scenes are very crashy at this stage. So if you're fighting against midi squares on the piano roll, go with audio files by exporting/exploding the pattern.
See each 'pattern' as 128 'tracks'. The small piano icon top right in the pattern view switches between pads and keys mode where you have a full piano-roll per pad. The instruments/pads are shared with all patterns in a bank.
Thanks again, but unfortunately that doesn't respond either. Strange, because the MPK just works with no settings needed. I guess it's a bug. Disappointing.
When you make a pattern, you can include any number of pads in your bank. You can also name each pattern.
Being out on holiday and reading this thread is killing me! Can't wait to use BM3!
This should be pinned to the top of these forums.
Thats sure a +, its time that developers forget about IAA and start focusing on AU, AU is so much easier to work with. As a matter I could see Apple phasing out IAA for AU in the future.
+1
But we still have to merge all sounds within a bank into one pattern, right? Apart from that, I'd like to use the song mode, if possible.
I got that. But the problem is there isn't a way to move around each "track" without duplicating a pattern and editing it is there ? Makes it a bit tedious when working with dozens of layers and you want to move an entire pad sequence a few notes left or right in the timeline. I get that in a tracker mindset this isn't a problem. But from a daw mindset it's quite restrictive. I'd be happy if they at least someday gave us 16-24 banks to compensate. I'd just keep 1 instrument per bank so I can quickly arrange stuff around in song mode.
coming from years of heavy Ableton use, BM3 was a breeze to learn, didnt reach for the manual, just got into it immediately. Cant say more yet, but wanted to chime in to the "is it hard to use" discussion.
Same here! I think the layout is pretty intuitive. Even for people who don't want to use the pattern/scene options, they can use the timeline/song mode.
From all the comments I read BM3 is the sort of same as AUM but can do more.I doubted long to buy AUM but maybe it has become more or less obsolete now we have BM3. Can anyone tell if there are any differences between both apps except workflow of course.
Yeah, but effectively you can only sequence 8 tracks (banks) at a time, as far as I can see.
Yeah but you can export to audio and utilize the audio tracks if you want to free up additional banks. I don't mind this workflow.
Hm. I'd like to utilize the sampler as much as possible. That's why I've bought the app, after all. I don't want to bounce tracks as a workaround (which doesn't really work for me, fwiw).
Also am i missing something, haven't they implemented preset hosting for AU apps.
I'm sure that must be coming, at least access to the factory presets.
The Quick Start Guide in the app's MANUAL & SUPPORT section was well written and helpful. You access it by hitting the three bars in the upper left hand corner and then the gear icon on the top menu bar.
I did discover a few odd things, you can mute all of the pads in your bank if you select a pad to be both mute and solo. It also seems useful to look at both the way percussive and instrument banks are setup. With instrument banks, you can easily mess up your setup if you select a pad without a sample and try to play. You can easily restore the bank by selecting the pad with the sample again. The pads will be black/grey if a pad without a sample has been selected versus a color.
If you choose a scene which isn't in your song, it will be a dimmer color than the selected scene used in your song. It may seem mysterious if you hit play and the app cycles through your song but doesn't match up with the patterns it displays because you have a different scene selected.
Lets hope so @brambos i am going send them a twitter message.