BeatMaker 3 July 15th.

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@ElGregoLoco said:
Is there a way to save slices to files as the was in BM2...? This was a major feature for me as this allowed me to then send the slices to Bilbao in Gadget. It's probably there as I don't think Intua would forget such major feature from previous version in the new version, but I can't manage to find it...

https://forum.audiob.us/uploads/editor/fo/fsa3psq0v1jw.jpg

marcuspresident

@lukesleepwalker said:

@marcuspresident said:
Can anybody please tell me how I sample Future drummer. Finally I got it to load as AB unit and I had sound and sync. But how do I record it?

Bottom left corner of the Sampler plug in window, there is a start button.

I tried that. But I dont get any patterns. It just says "waiting". Finally I get patterns but I dont here any sounds.

marcuspresident

And patterns but no sound:

JDubbel

Is it possible to sample from Samplr into this?

Jose_Bee

Just for info, I'm having some good success with my instruments and presets from bm2 working well with minimal tweaks, attack in the adsr being the major one. Drums pad presets seem to work straight out the box

[Deleted User]

@kobamoto said:

@MonzoPro said:

Have you ever used Maschine? Just asking
I'm talking about the sampler features and how each pad is its own sound.

I think some people are confusing iMaschine with the vastly superior desktop version;)

they're talking about the desktop version.

I don't think they are ^

lukesleepwalker

@marcuspresident said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@marcuspresident said:
Can anybody please tell me how I sample Future drummer. Finally I got it to load as AB unit and I had sound and sync. But how do I record it?

Bottom left corner of the Sampler plug in window, there is a start button.

I tried that. But I dont get any patterns. It just says "waiting". Finally I get patterns but I dont here any sounds.

Ah, make sure your midi routing is good--tap on the three dots to set MIDI. I just figured out how important this is today!

[Deleted User]

@5pinlink said:

@alecsbuga said:

@5pinlink said:

@alecsbuga said:
Guys, I don't wanna piss of anybody, but this app has all the workflow of Maschine (the desktop version) and some. And it costs 20 bucks and you guys are complaining about the quality of the sampled piano.

It's a state of the art sampler, you can do whatever the hell you want with it.
I know they've teased us for a lot of time, but believe me, you don't make an app like this over night. This is not your average "post my selfie on social media" app. So I can imagine why it took them that long.

So maybe it's time to show a little gratitude and enjoy it as it's the most versatile and powerful app out there. And believe me I've bought almost all of them.

Maschine is cutdown in terms of features because it is designed to work with hardware, and it has the most complaints by its own customers of any software that ever existed, so neither is the workflow similar (one is touchscreen, the other hardware) or even the feature set really, if anything BM3 is a little more advanced, yes they have copied a bunch of features from Maschine (funnily enough the ones nobody wants/uses) but the sampler for example is way more advanced in BM3 (ok doesnt sound as good right now, listed in bug thread)

What is happening is the very nature of hyped consumerism, go back and read what i said when the hype generating nonsense was going on, the way this was released was always a huge huge mistake, if you hype people up like Intua did, you better have a perfect app out the gate, they didn't and it is biting them in the ass because they got people too excited.
Some are being over the top yes, but so was the hype before release.

This is now a public beta, report the bugs concisely in the bug thread, let Intua do their job (i would suggest quickly as possible) as for the features that are just ridiculous (scenes/8 track limit/no direct MIDI tracks/totally **** performance mode) add to the discussion.

Have you ever used Maschine? Just asking
I'm talking about the sampler features and how each pad is its own sound.

I'm talking about sampler features 1:1, Beatmaker is vastly superior to Maschines sampler
No Layers, which means no layer effects or release triggering
Fixed modulation architecture with a single envelope and LFO
No livestretch and unlikely to ever happen according to the developers of Maschine, that should only be done on the pattern level (audio tracks) and not in the sampler
No disk streaming
Legato that has a bug since day 1 of V2 and will not work on about 75% of samples, acknowledged by NI on day 1, still not fixed
Polyphony bug since day 1 that means that in a single sampler 2 notes poly is not 2x the CPU it is 4x, 4 notes ploy is 16x the CPU, 8 notes poly is 64x the CPU and so on and so on, acknowledged by NI on day 1, still not fixed
Sample selection bug since day 1 that stops mouse selection of the start and end of samples, click city, acknowledged by NI day 1, still not fixed

There is more but yeah, i have used Maschine, I have tested for NI from day 1, and created a lot of content for it, so yeah i've used it haha

(To be fair and impartial, Maschines sampler does sound better than BM3s right now, BM3 has some issues with what seems to be ghosted notes)

When you say not as good as maschine do you mean because of ghosting or because of actually not sounding as good in terms of sound engine / quality ?

cian

@5pinlink said:
I'm not starting a new thread
https://intua.net/forums/discussion/4599/beatmaker-3-tutorial-rave-piano?new=1
First resampling tutorial showing how to turn some of the (Not so great i my ears) content that ships with BM3 in to an oldschool rave piano.
Side note, if anybody is in to old rave sounds, you all realise that pretty much every rave sounds from 89-96 was done like this, by sampling the Korg M1, the iPad is like the ultimate rave resampler with the Korg M1 haha

This is really good. Totally worth watching.

[Deleted User]

@5pinlink said:
The sound quality is there, thats no doubt, but there seems to be this kind of phasey sound sometimes, even when polyphony is 1, i can only assume it is some phantom ghosted note that is causing it, it does sound very much like the old delay the same midi track from the Atari ST Cubase days.

But yep, when it does not do that phasey thing, the sample quality is on par, no doubt about it (Checked exports in a wave editor on the desktop, just to be completely anal haha)

Ha ha cool like your style

hansjbs

@5pinlink said:
https://intua.net/forums/discussion/4608/beatmaker-3-tutorial-very-famous-bass-single-cycle?new=1

Quick tutorial showing how to make a very famous bass sound, this was to show the power in using single cycles in the sampler (The size of the samples in this is less than 5kb and that is at 24/96) and also to prove that a good sampler is also a good synth.

Great job with that tutorial!!!

philowerx

@5pinlink said:
https://intua.net/forums/discussion/4608/beatmaker-3-tutorial-very-famous-bass-single-cycle?new=1

Quick tutorial showing how to make a very famous bass sound, this was to show the power in using single cycles in the sampler (The size of the samples in this is less than 5kb and that is at 24/96) and also to prove that a good sampler is also a good synth.

Nice!

1P18

Anyone get Vintage Drums? If so how is it?

There's no description or audio preview.

Proppa

@1P18 said:
Anyone get Vintage Drums? If so how is it?

There's no description or audio preview.

I was wondering too - and anyone get the Vespine pack?

I was tempted to start a BeatMaker3 iAP thread to discuss as scattered controversy has been bubbling around them so far.

Michael_R_Grant

I've seen a few people mention Performance Mode. What do they mean by that? I assumed it was the Scene Mode, but someone mentioned it after he talked about scenes! Am I missing something here?

One other thing: I'd love Audioshare to be a dedicated import option, like Dropbox is. Seems like a curious omission given how ubiquitous Audioshare is with the iOS community. Being able to import several samples at once from Audioshare would be amazing - at the moment, it seems like I have to use the import function from Audioshare and move them across one at a time.

[Deleted User]

Well, I've been looking at this for a while, reading the many lines, and between the lines. Sad to see the 'better than sliced bread' threads allowed to rumble on, but someone who doesn't like the app closed down for being negative. All threads are not equal, it would appear.

Anyway, there have been more than enough people who bought the app telling true, in my estimation, as to the problems at launch. So I've decided to save my credits. There is always something else coming along.

Carnbot

Can any beta testers say if Audiobus 3 is working on the latest beta? As in AB3 midi and audio receiving mode for BM3. Currently Intua haven't yet acknowledged the bug in the forum but if it works in the betas then all is good

[Deleted User]

@Zen210507 said:

Anyway, there have been more than enough people who bought the app telling true, in my estimation, as to the problems at launch. So I've decided to save my credits. There is always something else coming along.

I'm almost off the fence - I thought it might be a nice way to chop up and arrange Komplete content, then send it back again in loops and blocks for further desktop tinkering. The issues I've seen reported seem to be more 'bugs' than functionality related, so should hopefully be an easy fix.

Tritonman

Bugs ? Sure . Worth every penny and much more? You betcha! It sure has put a huge smile on my face for sure pretty sure I am not alone. My free time is fast becoming BM3's time.

LucidMusicInc

The 3.01 is on its way. These troll/doubters will be in for some hard truths about their mistaken assumptions soon enough.

Tritonman

Help I am running out of storage fast. There has clearly been too much sampling going on here.

[Deleted User]

@Michael_R_Grant said:
I've seen a few people mention Performance Mode. What do they mean by that? I assumed it was the Scene Mode, but someone mentioned it after he talked about scenes! Am I missing something here?

One other thing: I'd love Audioshare to be a dedicated import option, like Dropbox is. Seems like a curious omission given how ubiquitous Audioshare is with the iOS community. Being able to import several samples at once from Audioshare would be amazing - at the moment, it seems like I have to use the import function from Audioshare and move them across one at a time.

Using the iCoud drive icon gives you the option to import with AudioShare including whole folders.

Tritonman

@Tritonman said:
Help I am running out of storage fast. There has clearly been too much sampling going on here.

It seems that I am loosing more storage space then I downloaded, is this possible? I had nearly 7 gigs available prior to Beatmaker but now down to Two even after deleting most of what I just downloaded, what's up with that?

Michael_R_Grant

@InfoCheck said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:
I've seen a few people mention Performance Mode. What do they mean by that? I assumed it was the Scene Mode, but someone mentioned it after he talked about scenes! Am I missing something here?

One other thing: I'd love Audioshare to be a dedicated import option, like Dropbox is. Seems like a curious omission given how ubiquitous Audioshare is with the iOS community. Being able to import several samples at once from Audioshare would be amazing - at the moment, it seems like I have to use the import function from Audioshare and move them across one at a time.

Using the iCoud drive icon gives you the option to import with AudioShare including whole folders.

Oh yay! Cheers, fella.

SheffieldBleep

Im struggling to find a pattern editor whilst using an AU on a Pad (Beathawk for instance). In the pattern editor only Row 1 is used to show the pattern. So I can record the AU in by hand using the keyboard but no pattern sequencing? Is this correct?

RajahP

@LucidMusicInc said:
The 3.01 is on its way. These troll/doubters will be in for some hard truths about their mistaken assumptions soon enough.

What can we expect in that update?

fattigman

@RajahP said:

@LucidMusicInc said:
The 3.01 is on its way. These troll/doubters will be in for some hard truths about their mistaken assumptions soon enough.

What can we expect in that update?

If the version is gonna be 3.0.1 this indicates bug fixes and not new features

anickt

@1P18 said:
Anyone get Vintage Drums? If so how is it?

There's no description or audio preview.

https://intua.net/forums/discussion/4614/what-is-in-vintage-drums#latest

ElGregoLoco

@triton100 said:

@ElGregoLoco said:
Is there a way to save slices to files as the was in BM2...? This was a major feature for me as this allowed me to then send the slices to Bilbao in Gadget. It's probably there as I don't think Intua would forget such major feature from previous version in the new version, but I can't manage to find it...

Hey does that mean you're going to continue using Bilbao even though bm3 is much more feature rich? May I ask what your preferred workflow is as I have also been using gadget and am still figuring out the best workflow scenario between them both and cubasis or auria

Currently, BM3 is too complicated and unstable (I have regular crashes that I never have with Gadget) to use it as a sampler and had audio tracks to complete (e.g. I'd like to record from gadget in audio tracks and then build loops from these audio tracks but the workflow is not natural and I have many crashes when using audio tracks)... So, at least until it is updated and more stable, I would like to be able to use BM3 as a modern BM2 in which I chop my loops to individual slice files to feed gadget in which I can easily build full tracks based on these slices and other instruments...

@LucidMusicInc said:

@ElGregoLoco said:
Is there a way to save slices to files as the was in BM2...? This was a major feature for me as this allowed me to then send the slices to Bilbao in Gadget. It's probably there as I don't think Intua would forget such major feature from previous version in the new version, but I can't manage to find it...

Dotted button beside the sample name. You can specify where to save it. Alternatively you can save the whole bank and copy the samples to a new folder.

Ha ha, I know that already... This does not permit to save slices to different files apparently.

@InfoCheck said:

@ElGregoLoco said:
Is there a way to save slices to files as the was in BM2...? This was a major feature for me as this allowed me to then send the slices to Bilbao in Gadget. It's probably there as I don't think Intua would forget such major feature from previous version in the new version, but I can't manage to find it...

https://forum.audiob.us/uploads/editor/fo/fsa3psq0v1jw.jpg

Ha ha, I know that already... This does not permit to save slices to different files apparently.

[Deleted User]

@MonzoPro said:

@Zen210507 said:

I'm almost off the fence - I thought it might be a nice way to chop up and arrange Komplete content, then send it back again in loops and blocks for further desktop tinkering. The issues I've seen reported seem to be more 'bugs' than functionality related, so should hopefully be an easy fix.

Hopefully so, and that it enhances your workflow.