BeatMaker 3 July 15th.

Sonicflux

@5pinlink said:

@Sonicflux said:

@5pinlink said:
Youre an idiot, ... you are an idiot.

You need to figure out how to turn off the echo in the sample.

Ungrateful Idiot !!

Oh come on now. That was witty.

Proto

Enough BM3 talk for this week.

lukesleepwalker

@Tarekith said:
The more I use BM3 the more I like it, lots of really well thought out ideas. I have to say though, I'm REALLY curious how they are going to port all this functionality to a smaller iPhone screen!

I don't get the scene view at all, but I hope I'll learn more about how Intua intended it to be used soon. Other than that, the sampling workflow is tops! I'm happy just using it as a sampler... But the question about iPhone layout is one that I keep coming to when I'm using my iPad--I already have trouble looking at Beathawk on my phone--how are they going to get some of the finer features of BM3 onto that small screen!

Sonicflux

@lukesleepwalker said:
I don't get the scene view at all, but I hope I'll learn more about how Intua intended it to be used soon. Other than that, the sampling workflow is tops! I'm happy just using it as a sampler... But the question about iPhone layout is one that I keep coming to when I'm using my iPad--I already have trouble looking at Beathawk on my phone--how are they going to get some of the finer features of BM3 onto that small screen!

I wondered that, too. I suspect that the iphone version will be a separate app rather than making the iPad version universal. I would prefer a universal app, of course, but that would appear to be a very challenging proposition.

cian

@Sonicflux said:

@lukesleepwalker said:
I don't get the scene view at all, but I hope I'll learn more about how Intua intended it to be used soon. Other than that, the sampling workflow is tops! I'm happy just using it as a sampler... But the question about iPhone layout is one that I keep coming to when I'm using my iPad--I already have trouble looking at Beathawk on my phone--how are they going to get some of the finer features of BM3 onto that small screen!

I wondered that, too. I suspect that the iphone version will be a separate app rather than making the iPad version universal. I would prefer a universal app, of course, but that would appear to be a very challenging proposition.

They have promised that it will be universal. BM2 started on the phone, so I'm guessing they have some understanding of the challenges

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@lukesleepwalker said:

@Tarekith said:
The more I use BM3 the more I like it, lots of really well thought out ideas. I have to say though, I'm REALLY curious how they are going to port all this functionality to a smaller iPhone screen!

I don't get the scene view at all, but I hope I'll learn more about how Intua intended it to be used soon. Other than that, the sampling workflow is tops! I'm happy just using it as a sampler... But the question about iPhone layout is one that I keep coming to when I'm using my iPad--I already have trouble looking at Beathawk on my phone--how are they going to get some of the finer features of BM3 onto that small screen!

I'm avoiding scene view for now, the pattern/song arranger does the job for me.

Trueyorky

@frejahel said:
Maybe most people know about this. It was new to me. Previously when creating instruments I either just dragged samples from the browser to the first/sampler tab in the editor, or I just added samples in performance mode.

I noticed that it's so much quicker to drag the sample directly under the mapping tab. If you drag it vertically, you can automatically map the sample across all keys, an octave or a semi tone (similar to Kontakt). I don't think there is any way of adding multiple samples at the same time, but this is a quick and convenient way in any case.

This works brilliantly and actually goes one better. Drag the sample into the mapping area and hold it, then drag up and down and you will see it mapped to a note, an octave or the whole keyboard range. Then drag another sample into the area and map that in the same way - keep doing until all mapped. Fantastic and so so quick

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lukesleepwalker

@Trueyorky said:
This works brilliantly and actually goes one better. Drag the sample into the mapping area and hold it, then drag up and down and you will see it mapped to a note, an octave or the whole keyboard range. Then drag another sample into the area and map that in the same way - keep doing until all mapped. Fantastic and so so quick

WHOA! Dude, this just made my day and makes resampling so much easier. What a great tip...

Tarekith

@MonzoPro said:
I'm avoiding scene view for now, the pattern/song arranger does the job for me.

Scene mode right now is VERY limited IMO, since you can only mix and match banks. I wish there was a way to do the same for pads within a pattern, since I tend to use each pad not just to hold a sample, but a complete loop (audio or instrument).

Sonicflux

@5pinlink said:

I didn't react too harsh at all, are you kidding ?
Fool called me a skizzo for giving him the correct info and showing how to do it in a tutorial video, seriously, react too harsh, he is an ungrateful idiot and if that is me acting too harsh, its easier to just not try and help anybody !!

You didn't direct me to your video. I found it later. And I thanked your rational personality for the info in the video. Talk about ungrateful... Sheesh.

cian

@Trueyorky said:

@frejahel said:

This works brilliantly and actually goes one better. Drag the sample into the mapping area and hold it, then drag up and down and you will see it mapped to a note, an octave or the whole keyboard range. Then drag another sample into the area and map that in the same way - keep doing until all mapped. Fantastic and so so quick

You see it's these details that give me confidence that they will address the other issues. They thought about workflow.

cian

@Sonicflux said:

You didn't direct me to your video. I found it later. And I thanked your rational personality for the info in the video. Talk about ungrateful... Sheesh.

You were kind of rude about it. You were the one asking for help after all - it's not as if he owed you an answer, or anything really.

Sonicflux

@cian said:

@Sonicflux said:

You didn't direct me to your video. I found it later. And I thanked your rational personality for the info in the video. Talk about ungrateful... Sheesh.

You were kind of rude about it. You were the one asking for help after all - it's not as if he owed you an answer, or anything really.

That's fair. I apologize for being a bit rude. Amusing to see how hysterical and unhinged the guy is, though.

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Tarekith

Geez guys, let it go already. No one else wants to watch you two bicker like little kids, take it to PMs or something.

mireko_2

I'm running into lots of bugs, crashes on AU or IAA recording, tracks not recording their notes in the sequencer but still playing back, samples not saving properly, etc..
But even with all this, this is by far my favourite timestretch engine and implementation. I can now record a loop and pitch and tempo shift it how I like and sample it into my Sp404sx or digitakt (both samples lacking timestretch). $20 to add quality timstretch to two hw samplers? Hell yeah !!
And I am sure bugs will be addressed soon anyway

mireko_2

@AudioGus said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Zen210507 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Zen210507 said:

I'm almost off the fence - I thought it might be a nice way to chop up and arrange Komplete content, then send it back again in loops and blocks for further desktop tinkering. The issues I've seen reported seem to be more 'bugs' than functionality related, so should hopefully be an easy fix.

Hopefully so, and that it enhances your workflow.

I think (hope) it will....

I love recording some of the more wacky ensembles directly in Reaktor, so I'm thinking that as well as boring stuff like Kontact drum samples, these can be chopped and sequenced in BM3. This should unchain me from the desktop and provide a quicker way of creating interesting loops and blocks than desktop alternatives.

Also it provides a bridge between the two platforms, so I can sample favourite app combos such as iVCS3 and Turnado for use in Ableton - after all I've spent more on iOS music apps than I have on Komplete and Logic put together, so I don't want to waste all that investment.

All of the above could turn out to be the ravings of a daydreaming fool though, if the app turns out to be a crashfest.

TALES OF BM3 - by The Gus of Audio

I used BM3 for two hours yesterday laying on the couch with not a single crash or significant bug aside from a very minor window not recalling it's zoom settings.

It was a fantasticly productive time where I tapped in a nice little drumbeat then tinkered with each pad, adding layers, muting and unmuting layers, filtering etc, just toggeling/honing the sound was painless and unlike anything I have done before. So much better than just scrolling through lists of more or less canned hits.

Then I hopped over to Blocs, nicely synced/timestretching and I jumped through some older Circuit recordings from the past few months. I found six long notes of a synth pad I liked about eight bars long. I exported it to BM3 then sliced it to pads. Had to spend some time tinkering the ahdsr. Took a little longer than i would like but i forged on...

Back to blocs I found another circuit recording, this time a recording of several minutes, more or less just two notes played over and over with mutating parameters in realtime. Call it realtime timbre exploration. I sent it to BM3.

Chopping up the sound file and sending it to pads was easy but I won't lie to you. It took quite a while to set all of these faders and fall off's in the AHDSR, but I persevered and finally did it... Then it occurred to me there must be a better way to do this. What I decided to do was take one of the pads, copy it to a new empty bank, set the settings properly on the first pad and then re-slice the whole thing to the 64 pads. Eureka! It worked. The settings of the first pad before slicing are inherited by all of the new slices. Happy Dance! In celebration I plunked in a charming little ditty using these mutating Circuit note timbres, ready for tomorrows adventures in filter and fx modulation.

I slept good last night knowing that I am done chasing the iOS Dragon, it is curled up at my feet and absolutely adorable.

Jealous
I have used it 4-5 times since launch and has been a bugfest, culminating in a show stopping bug that literally made me close the app in frustration every single time!

Tritonman

Have you checked your available storage lately? I found that was what gave me headaches after downloading so many free samples. I had to clear out my import file but it got things working smooth again. I definitely need to upgrade to more storage next time.

mireko_2

@Tritonman said:
Have you checked your available storage lately? I found that was what gave me headaches after downloading so many free samples. I had to clear out my import file but it got things working smooth again. I definitely need to upgrade to more storage next time.

is that in response to my problems? I have about 2gb free in iOS. What is clearing import file?

boone51

@mathieugarcia said:

@Love3quency said:
iPad only?? Or universal

The app will be universal - iPad on July 15th, iPhone version coming shortly after.

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This is awesome to find in the early stages of this thread. There are 72 pages and counting. Wow. @Sebastian what's the record on an app launch thread? I know you know... ;-)

boone51

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boone51

Sorry, nothing to see here

1P18

A Møøse once bit my sister.

philowerx

Brilliant application, BM3 is so incredibly deep. So looking forward to how it evolves.

ElGregoLoco

@mireko_2 said:

@AudioGus said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Zen210507 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Zen210507 said:

I'm almost off the fence - I thought it might be a nice way to chop up and arrange Komplete content, then send it back again in loops and blocks for further desktop tinkering. The issues I've seen reported seem to be more 'bugs' than functionality related, so should hopefully be an easy fix.

Hopefully so, and that it enhances your workflow.

I think (hope) it will....

I love recording some of the more wacky ensembles directly in Reaktor, so I'm thinking that as well as boring stuff like Kontact drum samples, these can be chopped and sequenced in BM3. This should unchain me from the desktop and provide a quicker way of creating interesting loops and blocks than desktop alternatives.

Also it provides a bridge between the two platforms, so I can sample favourite app combos such as iVCS3 and Turnado for use in Ableton - after all I've spent more on iOS music apps than I have on Komplete and Logic put together, so I don't want to waste all that investment.

All of the above could turn out to be the ravings of a daydreaming fool though, if the app turns out to be a crashfest.

TALES OF BM3 - by The Gus of Audio

I used BM3 for two hours yesterday laying on the couch with not a single crash or significant bug aside from a very minor window not recalling it's zoom settings.

It was a fantasticly productive time where I tapped in a nice little drumbeat then tinkered with each pad, adding layers, muting and unmuting layers, filtering etc, just toggeling/honing the sound was painless and unlike anything I have done before. So much better than just scrolling through lists of more or less canned hits.

Then I hopped over to Blocs, nicely synced/timestretching and I jumped through some older Circuit recordings from the past few months. I found six long notes of a synth pad I liked about eight bars long. I exported it to BM3 then sliced it to pads. Had to spend some time tinkering the ahdsr. Took a little longer than i would like but i forged on...

Back to blocs I found another circuit recording, this time a recording of several minutes, more or less just two notes played over and over with mutating parameters in realtime. Call it realtime timbre exploration. I sent it to BM3.

Chopping up the sound file and sending it to pads was easy but I won't lie to you. It took quite a while to set all of these faders and fall off's in the AHDSR, but I persevered and finally did it... Then it occurred to me there must be a better way to do this. What I decided to do was take one of the pads, copy it to a new empty bank, set the settings properly on the first pad and then re-slice the whole thing to the 64 pads. Eureka! It worked. The settings of the first pad before slicing are inherited by all of the new slices. Happy Dance! In celebration I plunked in a charming little ditty using these mutating Circuit note timbres, ready for tomorrows adventures in filter and fx modulation.

I slept good last night knowing that I am done chasing the iOS Dragon, it is curled up at my feet and absolutely adorable.

Jealous
I have used it 4-5 times since launch and has been a bugfest, culminating in a show stopping bug that literally made me close the app in frustration every single time!

You're not alone man... Which is highly frustrating as the potential of the app is really fantastic (my first 30 hours of use have been pure awesomeness when the app was not acting strangely or crashing and killing my 'work')... For info, I never had this kind of bugs with other big music apps such as Gadget or Cubasis (the only apps I add similar kind of bugs and instability until now are Retronym's)...
Please start rolling out the bug fix updates soon Intua...

ElGregoLoco

Sorry... Double post error on the phone...

marcuspresident

@Tarekith said:
Geez guys, let it go already. No one else wants to watch you two bicker like little kids, take it to PMs or something.

I fully agree.

marcuspresident

I cant "record" samples sometimes. I get this that the peak goes down to -60db. And I can´t change it. And I hear no sound from any bank what so ever.

srcer

@ElGregoLoco said:
I still have regular crashes on my side (like every 5-6 hours of use) and I identified many odd behaviors when playing with audio files/pattern (like when you slice a pattern on a audio file and then want to edit it, the ending loop marker is not at the right place, etc), but after more than 30hrs on the app I can now confirm that it is (or will be in fact) wonderful... I will now probably wait until the 'public beta' is over i.e. wait for a few updates before I use it again (in the current state it is not stable enough for me to build a full project in... Too risky IMO), but I'm really looking forward to be able to use it correctly...
Peace.

Perhaps @mathieugarcia should add you to his beta team so you can test the forthcoming code before it's released