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Anyone else NOT buying BM3?

I've known the hype, seen the videos, love the interface but with NS2 coming down the pipeline, I don't see myself using BM3. Anyone else not catch on to the BM3 hype?

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  • edited July 2017

    Hey, me in doubts. I' more into linear recording like cubasis but I like Ableton. Still thinking if buying BM3 will just occupy my time learning a new workflow preventing me from doing music in the meantime...I have IMPC pro and never clicked on me ( sample based workflows).

  • Well I only have iPhone so that's a hurdle. But honestly it looks like it's a bit much for my needs at the moment.

  • edited July 2017

    I have not bought it, but having been on this forum since about 2013 (I think?), there's been a slowdown or saturation point in terms of new app content in the past couple of years, versus the frenzied pace of 2012-15 (sparked by the release of AudioBus, and later development of IAA and AU). iOS music didn't become any less awesome after that, but when you own like 3 or 4 different DAW's, a dozen grooveboxes, and scores of synths, guitar modelers, and drum machines...it gets to be a bit much. Then again, I'm more of a power "consumer" versus power "user" of a lot of this stuff (due to time constraints, poor attention span, etc.). It's entirely possible that other people on this site could own as many apps (or more) as I do and get enough use to them that it would be completely justifiable. For me, it most certainly is not - though I did really enjoy the excitement of one big release after another, and hope to continue to use those apps for years to come.

    I need to study up on Beatmaker 3. It seems to be reviewing quite well. I note that a lot of people have celebrated the workflow, which is crazy to me because workflow/file management were always thought to be the WORST parts of Beatmaker 2 (the built-in sampler was usually cited as the reason to own it). BM3 seems to have some "Ableton-like" qualities to it, which is appealing. But I'm heavily invested in both Cubasis and Auria, not to mention Gadget, which became sort of like a DAW in the past few months. I think I should only buy BM3 if I can find a clear route as to why this will help me record music versus what I already have. Otherwise, I'm just spending money because it feels good to acquire things.

  • i think it's great but at the same time there's been gazillion pieces of hardware and software arond for ages that can perform the same tasks. Of course its level of integration must be greatly appealing to heavy ios users, but someone like myself who came into ios to find new ways of expressing musical ideas, and not in order to transport an existing workflow to another platform, bm3 is not what i'm after.

  • @guiltysouls said:
    I've known the hype, seen the videos, love the interface but with NS2 coming down the pipeline, I don't see myself using BM3. Anyone else not catch on to the BM3 hype?

    i see alot of hype about NS2 lately - like people think it seems to be releasing in the next few weeks or something... It's my understanding that it still could be awhile yet. Don't think he's done programming it, and I don't even think beta testing has begun. I think we'll be lucky to see it before xmas. Of course, happy to be wrong and have it show up next month or something...

  • @db909 said:
    Well I only have iPhone so that's a hurdle. But honestly it looks like it's a bit much for my needs at the moment.

    This is half the reason I've used Beatmaker 2 so much - it is the best DAW on iPhone IMHO.

    Purchased, and eagerly awaiting BM3's universal update!

  • @hazardtears said:
    i think it's great but at the same time there's been gazillion pieces of hardware and software arond for ages that can perform the same tasks. Of course its level of integration must be greatly appealing to heavy ios users, but someone like myself who came into ios to find new ways of expressing musical ideas, and not in order to transport an existing workflow to another platform, bm3 is not what i'm after.

    i wonder if anyone here can relate to this? i've brought this up often to no avail, and wd love to talk about this way more than midi outputs, personally speaking.

  • @guiltysouls said:
    I've known the hype, seen the videos, love the interface but with NS2 coming down the pipeline, I don't see myself using BM3. Anyone else not catch on to the BM3 hype?

    Well, I hated BM2, which I never used... but I just bought BM3 anyway. And that's because it has almost all the latest nuts and bolts and protocols of every sort. I don't mind the price, as I have a Pro Tools studio, and know the prices on the desktop side.

    The real reason I bought it is that I'm going to use it in a modular way. I'm mainly a Notion/Cubasis/Auria Pro user, but there are certain segments of my recordings that undoubtably will be made in bm3.
    Think of it as a modern Fairlight Synth... you play and sequence your samples :)

  • edited July 2017

    I haven't bought it, may do but there's no hurry. Been collecting apps pretty compulsively for years, got hundreds upon hundreds, but in the last year and a half my attention has shifted away from app land to hardware instrument and Ableton/Push/Komplete land, so I'm kind of less interested in big new apps. A year or two ago I was pretty productive with BM2, produced and finished some material with it, but I somehow can't see myself producing full tracks on iPad anymore. I'm now in the market for a hardware sampler, either an MPC Live or an Octatrack. I'm looking forward to spending more time using the iPad setup running through some FX boxes to generate food for one of those two. Damn, this shift in focus has ended up being quite expensive, this will be my last big purchase for a while I think. :)

  • potentially think it’s pushing the iPad forward next level sheeet. perfect marriage of technical power with the ease of use an iPad demands. raised the bar for all who came before. (If/when they fix it under the bonnet).

  • like in what sense?

  • edited July 2017

    I'm going to ask for refund... only to allow myself to buy it again. :trollface:

  • I will not be getting it either. I just don't believe in it-at all. A while ago I posted on this forum- asking for a link to any decent thumping EDM, techno, trance etc tracks made with Beatmaker. I had been searching on YouTube etc add could not find a single one- and nor did I get a single reply or link. So if it is as amazing and all the rest of it as people say- where is the evidence of this? What and where is the output of this app? Since so many people seem to love it- I would have expected at least a handful of tracks to showcase it's potential.

  • get a periodic audio playback corruption but I’m running iOS 11 public beta so cant truly report bugs rn.

  • So you have it- but you haven't bought it.

  • I think BM3 is great, in the last few days Ive discovered more and more and I'm loving it more each day. The first day it came out I definitely wasn't on board as much or familiar as I am now. As far as NS2 goes, its just way too earlier for me to get excited about, Ive literally heard nothing what so ever about what new features might be in it, Ive only heard a few tracks made with it. All I know is the current version is going to be dead come IOS11, but to be honest its collecting dust one my Ipad so I wont really miss it , should I decide to update to IOS11

  • an app wont make it any easier or harder to make exciting music

  • I’m just getting into BM3 for working with samples on the Pad, possibly integrating it into iOS DAWs I use, or Logic on desktop. Not completely sure how it’s going to work yet, but the way it is with iOS, it costs relatively little for me to mess with it and see.

    I’ve never used NanoStudio. I see it hasn’t been updated in a long time. Hope they’ll “hype” the new version. If I think it’s worth my time, I’ll probably check it out.

  • Doubts here between BM3 or AUM. Although what I understood from the threads BM3 can do anything AUM can do and more. But also it's a lot complexer to handle.

  • @hazardtears said:
    an app wont make it any easier or harder to make exciting music

    You don't even need an app to make exciting music ;)

  • it needs more cowbell

  • Nah, I'm pretty set in my ways nowadays and not a sampler or electronic music type guy. I don't need another program to learn either.

    As @StormJH1 said, iOS reached its saturation point for me about 12-18 months ago. I still spend plenty of money and am curious as to any new release, especially synths, but I no longer have the 'buy it if i'll use it or not' mentality.

  • edited July 2017

    It's not for me at the moment, but I have to respect the various luminaries here who do find it to their liking. So, one for me to keep a 'lectric eye on.

  • The level of excitement from happy customers has nothing to do with the number of happy non-customers.

    So there's that.

  • Talk about what you like, but as far as useful info goes, I look for people using an app, and see what they like about it. If someone doesn’t use it, what’s the point? I can’t see coming on here and informing everyone that I don’t use a particular app. Why should anyone care? If NanoStudio is the subject, then how about discussing why you use it and why you look forward to a new release?

  • @robosardine said:
    I will not be getting it either. I just don't believe in it-at all. A while ago I posted on this forum- asking for a link to any decent thumping EDM, techno, trance etc tracks made with Beatmaker. I had been searching on YouTube etc add could not find a single one- and nor did I get a single reply or link. So if it is as amazing and all the rest of it as people say- where is the evidence of this? What and where is the output of this app? Since so many people seem to love it- I would have expected at least a handful of tracks to showcase it's potential.

    Dude, it's been out less than a week. Give it a chance.

    BM2 was popular in the hip hop community.

  • wimwim
    edited July 2017

    @robosardine said:
    I will not be getting it either. I just don't believe in it-at all. A while ago I posted on this forum- asking for a link to any decent thumping EDM, techno, trance etc tracks made with Beatmaker. I had been searching on YouTube etc add could not find a single one- and nor did I get a single reply or link. So if it is as amazing and all the rest of it as people say- where is the evidence of this? What and where is the output of this app? Since so many people seem to love it- I would have expected at least a handful of tracks to showcase it's potential.

    That is kind of unrealistic. The number of people who even have the app prior to release is limited to the beta testers. Of those I'm sure only a fraction produce "thumping EDM, techno, trance, etc...". Of those who is going to have mastered the app? Of those few, who are skilled enough to produce convincing tracks, regardless of the tool used, would be investing serious effort to producing on beta software? Maybe ... one?

    Besides, "thumping EDM, techno, trance" can come from any app (that suits the genre). The app doesn't shape the sound, the musician does. That kind of thinking tells you nothing.

    I can think of 100's of other reasons to not buy BM3. But this one is illogical to me.

  • @Coloobar said:
    it needs more cowbell

    +1

  • I am holding off on BM3. This is because I really feel like I would end up not using it. I bought BM2, IMPC, and iMaschine - but never ended up making any music with them, just would fiddle around and then move off them.

    It's just a personal preference thing, I suppose. On iOS, I have had the best luck with Gadget, and occasionally I get somewhere using Cubasis and some of the many synth apps I've acquired over the years. Turns out I really like hardware most of all, something about the tactility, maybe.

    But no disrespect to BM3. Glad to see devs continuing to produce quality apps at great prices!

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