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Anyone else NOT buying BM3?

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  • @wim said:

    @robosardine said:
    I will not be getting it either. I just don't believe in it-at all. A while ago I posted on this forum- asking for a link to any decent thumping EDM, techno, trance etc tracks made with Beatmaker. I had been searching on YouTube etc add could not find a single one- and nor did I get a single reply or link. So if it is as amazing and all the rest of it as people say- where is the evidence of this? What and where is the output of this app? Since so many people seem to love it- I would have expected at least a handful of tracks to showcase it's potential.

    That is kind of unrealistic. The number of people who even have the app prior to release is limited to the beta testers. Of those I'm sure only a fraction produce "thumping EDM, techno, trance, etc...". Of those who is going to have mastered the app? Of those few, who are skilled enough to produce convincing tracks, regardless of the tool used, would be investing serious effort to producing on beta software? Maybe ... one?

    Besides, "thumping EDM, techno, trance" can come from any app. The app doesn't shape the sound, the musician does. That kind of thinking tells you nothing.

    I can think of 100's of other reasons to not buy BM3. But this one is illogical to me.

    I was meaning with BM2. Clearly BM3 has not been around any length of time yet.
    Where are the decent tunes made with Beatmaker- 1,2 or 3? Thumping or not.

  • ^ makes more sense in that light. Still irrelevant IMO, but whatever works for you mate! ;)

  • edited July 2017

    @guiltysouls said:
    I've known the hype, seen the videos, love the interface but with NS2 coming down the pipeline, I don't see myself using BM3. Anyone else not catch on to the BM3 hype?

    TOTALLY unnecessary thread!
    I can't understand why some users must talk alot of bullshit about Beatmaker 3?
    Beatmaker 3 is awesome. Period!

    Users don't wanna buy this, don't buy it and get the fuck up concerning Beatmaker...

    You can make threads about something you like, not hate...

  • @ErrkaPetti said:

    @guiltysouls said:
    I've known the hype, seen the videos, love the interface but with NS2 coming down the pipeline, I don't see myself using BM3. Anyone else not catch on to the BM3 hype?

    TOTALLY unnecessary thread!
    I can't understand why some user must talk alot of bullshit about Beatmaker 3?
    Beatmaker 3 is awesome. Period!

    Users don't wanna buy this, don't buy it and get the fuck up concerning Beatmaker...

    You can make threads about something you like, not hate...

    Whoa! This is not a hate thread at all. This forum has had so many threads on BM3 I was only wondering if there were any other iOS musicians that didn't or will not buy it. I wanted to read other reasons why other musicians didn't buy it. Please don't try to turn this into a controversy when it's only a different opinion of what appears to be a great and innovative app.

  • Im totally the opposite. I'm buying BM3, I'm not buying NS2.

  • @guiltysouls said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @guiltysouls said:
    I've known the hype, seen the videos, love the interface but with NS2 coming down the pipeline, I don't see myself using BM3. Anyone else not catch on to the BM3 hype?

    TOTALLY unnecessary thread!
    I can't understand why some user must talk alot of bullshit about Beatmaker 3?
    Beatmaker 3 is awesome. Period!

    Users don't wanna buy this, don't buy it and get the fuck up concerning Beatmaker...

    You can make threads about something you like, not hate...

    Whoa! This is not a hate thread at all. This forum has had so many threads on BM3 I was only wondering if there were any other iOS musicians that didn't or will not buy it. I wanted to read other reasons why other musicians didn't buy it. Please don't try to turn this into a controversy when it's only a different opinion of what appears to be a great and innovative app.

    Get a grip. People are only asking why you and others think that BM3 is 'awesome ' in order to try to determine whether or not they might want it-why is it so awesome and when and where can we hear it being awesome? And why are you being so rampantly defensive? someone just bang a tune out please and we can put this to bed. Does buying into hype make some people dizzy?

  • I mentioned before the release I don't think I need it even if it released bug free and fully featured. I haven't changed my position.

    I'm not putting it down at all and full credit to the developer but my angst from buying yet another thing I don't use to it's fullest would be too much. I've recently grabbed Cubasis and need to wring the ()$& out of that before I consider another big ticket item.

    Right now I'm really happy supporting the smaller scale apps that do innovative things and are clearly developed by deranged/inspired human beings.

    No hate, I hope BM3 does well and the peeps into it produce great stuff.

  • @robosardine said:

    @guiltysouls said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @guiltysouls said:
    I've known the hype, seen the videos, love the interface but with NS2 coming down the pipeline, I don't see myself using BM3. Anyone else not catch on to the BM3 hype?

    TOTALLY unnecessary thread!
    I can't understand why some user must talk alot of bullshit about Beatmaker 3?
    Beatmaker 3 is awesome. Period!

    Users don't wanna buy this, don't buy it and get the fuck up concerning Beatmaker...

    You can make threads about something you like, not hate...

    Whoa! This is not a hate thread at all. This forum has had so many threads on BM3 I was only wondering if there were any other iOS musicians that didn't or will not buy it. I wanted to read other reasons why other musicians didn't buy it. Please don't try to turn this into a controversy when it's only a different opinion of what appears to be a great and innovative app.

    Get a grip. People are only asking why you and others think that BM3 is 'awesome ' in order to try to determine whether or not they might want it-why is it so awesome and when and where can we hear it being awesome? And why are you being so rampantly defensive? someone just bang a tune out please and we can put this to bed. Does buying into hype make some people dizzy?

    It’s a tool, an instrument. Read what functions it has, go to YouTube and hear sounds that can come out of it. If you can’t imagine yourself being awesome with it, other people being awesome isn’t going to help you.

  • wimwim
    edited July 2017

    Leave the guy alone. You gotta get the right app and awesome thudding EDM beats are never going to come out of it. Everyone knows that. You must be one of those old farts from back in the day when shit like that depended on people's talent. Get with it man. :p

  • @robosardine said:
    So you have it- but you haven't bought it.

    Whos on first?

  • Decent is all buttoned up. Descent has all the fun because it gets to climb down a mountain. Dissent is what you do when the glee club wants to get matching red outfits but you like purple.

    Not allowed to say bad things about BM3.

  • NS2 period, end of story.

  • @RulesOfBlazon said:
    I am holding off on BM3. This is because I really feel like I would end up not using it. I bought BM2, IMPC, and iMaschine - but never ended up making any music with them, just would fiddle around and then move off them.

    It's just a personal preference thing, I suppose. On iOS, I have had the best luck with Gadget, and occasionally I get somewhere using Cubasis and some of the many synth apps I've acquired over the years. Turns out I really like hardware most of all, something about the tactility, maybe.

    But no disrespect to BM3. Glad to see devs continuing to produce quality apps at great prices!

    I know where youre coming from, I bought the same apps, BM2, IMPC, IMaschine and BeatHawk, for me I ended up not using most of them, I kinda found BeatHawk more useful as far as arranging tracks but it didnt have IAA or AU support for using other apps inside BeatHawk, it had it for using BeatHawk inside of other apps, and I wanted to have a built in synth so I didnt have to turn to IAA or Audiobus all the time, dont get me wrong, I love Audiobus but I want to have a synth inside and none of the apps above had them. Beatmaker 3 doesnt have a built in synth, but it has audio unit support, so we can have synths inside without having to launch them in the background or side by side, it pretty much like having built in synths, and with more on the way I believe.

    Will it get added to the pile of apps I dont use much months down the line? We'll see, but from the onset, I really dont think so. Im still using Auria Pro, Cubasis and Gadget on a daily basis and I think BM3 is going to be one of those apps I continue using on a daily basis. For me its hands down the best sampler, and I really like the pattern workflow. Trust me, Im not quick to just praise an app, and I actually think this is more like Maschine than IMaschine in a lot of ways. I would say, regardless of anyone else assessment, You use it and make your own, but give yourself more than one day with it, dig thru it and get to know it some, I think you might be surprised.

  • @robosardine said:

    @wim said:

    @robosardine said:
    I will not be getting it either. I just don't believe in it-at all. A while ago I posted on this forum- asking for a link to any decent thumping EDM, techno, trance etc tracks made with Beatmaker. I had been searching on YouTube etc add could not find a single one- and nor did I get a single reply or link. So if it is as amazing and all the rest of it as people say- where is the evidence of this? What and where is the output of this app? Since so many people seem to love it- I would have expected at least a handful of tracks to showcase it's potential.

    That is kind of unrealistic. The number of people who even have the app prior to release is limited to the beta testers. Of those I'm sure only a fraction produce "thumping EDM, techno, trance, etc...". Of those who is going to have mastered the app? Of those few, who are skilled enough to produce convincing tracks, regardless of the tool used, would be investing serious effort to producing on beta software? Maybe ... one?

    Besides, "thumping EDM, techno, trance" can come from any app. The app doesn't shape the sound, the musician does. That kind of thinking tells you nothing.

    I can think of 100's of other reasons to not buy BM3. But this one is illogical to me.

    I was meaning with BM2. Clearly BM3 has not been around any length of time yet.
    Where are the decent tunes made with Beatmaker- 1,2 or 3? Thumping or not.

    Redskylullaby posted a video with a track made in BM3 that was more than decent to my ears.

  • Well, for the record: I'm not NOT buying BM3.

  • yeah good points about routines. I've done music with Ableton for ages and I see little to no reason to start tweaking tens of apps together to replicate the workflow I have with it. I think the two supreme things about the ios is touch screen and midi programming (being able to control various parameters with other apps, creating random events or subtle change, etc.). The third best thing is the whacky apps like Deregulator, fluXpad, and Apesoft stuff, although a lot of that stuff could be and has been done in Max for Live, but still all of them have a sense of playfulness and an easy interface I surely value.

    But I'm becoming more and more disillusioned with the whole ios music making, for myself that is. Some the apps have become part of my go-to tools, esp. the generative things (great for making more experimental atmo stuff for film/video) when I work, and creating looops is super fun and way waster with some of the things. But putting actual songs together or doing anything more cohesive seems so, so, so far away for me with ios. If I would not have had a laptop+Ableton already for ages, I would surely look at this differently, though.

    so yes I really like how BM3 operates and i would recommend it, hats off to dev sincerely, but it's not what I use iOS for. The moment I start playing with it, I begun to think maybe I should just do this in Ableton so I don't have to transport the files later on...

  • @RustiK said:
    Not allowed to say bad things about BM3.

    Lots of “bad things” said about BM3 on this forum. Some are constructive criticism, factual accounts of bugs, or workflow inadequacies specified that might realistically be addressed by INTUA. Others are just whining about the existence of it, the excitement around it, or that it’s taking attention away from the center of the universe where the whiner exists.

    No app is right for everyone or is going to please everyone, and iOS is bound to disappoint if the expectation is that it matches a desktop system. iOS is mobile and touch screen. Is that important to a user? BM3 wants to provide a powerful sampling and beat making environment on that mobile platform. The excitement around it is that a first version, even with its early problems, brings something valuable and new to iOS. Why would so many musicians be hyping it if it didn’t do something for them? Why people want to piss in other people’s cornflakes, I don’t know. It’s even more inexplicable that they’d expect to do so free of criticism.

    I applaud the mods here for allowing discussions, positive and negative, and also respect their desire to maintain a higher level of constructive discourse.

  • edited July 2017

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    TOTALLY unnecessary thread!
    I can't understand why some users must talk alot of bullshit about Beatmaker 3?
    Beatmaker 3 is awesome. Period!

    Users don't wanna buy this, don't buy it and get the fuck up concerning Beatmaker...

    You can make threads about something you like, not hate...

    I can't see any hate here, just someone asking a question and various replies. Useful, even, to the makers of BM3, to learn what puts prospective customers off.

    Besides which, as soon as threads are banned because someone isn't particularly impressed by an app, this forum loses credibility.

  • edited July 2017

    I bought it. Not done much so far, but it oozes quality. Most impressive is the attention to detail - the sample browser for example is like a mini Audioshare.

    It's one heck of an app, and likely to be my 'go to' for sample/MIDI sequencing. Bit of a learning curve, but worth the effort.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    TOTALLY unnecessary thread!
    I can't understand why some users must talk alot of bullshit about Beatmaker 3?
    Beatmaker 3 is awesome. Period!

    Users don't wanna buy this, don't buy it and get the fuck up concerning Beatmaker...

    You can make threads about something you like, not hate...

    I can't see any hate here, just someone asking a question and various replies. Useful, even, to the makers of BM3, to learn what puts prospective customers off.

    Besides which, as soon as threads are banned because someone isn't particularly impressed by an app, this forum loses credibility.

    I agree. People giving substantive information about why they don’t find BM3 useful, or why they prefer other apps or platforms is useful to developers. It can also be interesting/useful to other users. This thread can provide that kind of info.

    OTOH, if a thread is just click bait to get attention, name-calling and a blatantly disrespectful and unhelpful attack on an app, I think it makes sense for the owner of a site to clean it up. If anything, I think the site strengthens its credibility if they do.

  • I already have a bunch of sampler apps that I never use, including Beathawk, Samplr, Egoist and others. I'm just not that into sampling or sample mangling - although I totally get the creative potential of these apps and admire the results some people get from them, but for some reason they've never really gelled with me.

    I don't really get on with clip launchers and pads either, doesn't seem to fit my mindset, I guess I just prefer a more instrument-like way of creating music (just piano keys or a guitar).

  • @richardyot said:
    I already have a bunch of sampler apps that I never use, including Beathawk, Samplr, Egoist and others. I'm just not that into sampling or sample mangling - although I totally get the creative potential of these apps and admire the results some people get from them, but for some reason they've never really gelled with me.

    I don't really get on with clip launchers and pads either, doesn't seem to fit my mindset, I guess I just prefer a more instrument-like way of creating music (just piano keys or a guitar).

    As you can probably guess, I'm not a hip-hop kinda guy - but the sampling, pad-triggering and sequencing of this will work perfectly for me in creating rhythm backings and song structures (something lacking in my stuff at the moment). BM3 is what I hoped iMPC Pro and iMaschine were going to be, but I can see how it's not going to work for everyone, and for a more traditional approach Auria Pro is the dogs cahoona's.

    I won't create finished songs in BM3, for me it's job is increating the rhythmic building blocks which will then be sequenced and embellished in Auria, Live or Logic.

    So hopefully my next SOTM will have a bit more structure, and not be a series of random squeaks and screams as per my usual fayre.

  • I come from a traditional music background, and I’m relatively new to computer-based music. One of the first iOS apps i bought, because it came highly recommended, was BM2. It made no sense to me, and I went on to other things. I’ve since been exposed to more, and have more of an idea what I can do with BM3. The appeal of an app like BM3 is that I’ll be able to explore new ways of making music with what appears will be a very capable system. I’m not sure what I’m going to get, but that doesn’t bother me.

  • edited July 2017

    @lovadamusic said:

    If anything, I think the site strengthens its credibility if they do.
    >

    Yes. Any site that runs on sycophantic lines with no critical comment at all, is no use to man or beast,

  • @richardyot said:
    I already have a bunch of sampler apps that I never use, including Beathawk, Samplr, Egoist and others. P

    Yeah, I have all of those and tend to use BeatHawk the most. But even then, not as much as my investment in it's lovely sound packs should encourage me to do. Re-Slice is the sample tool I'm using the most, because I understand it, and can work it well enough.

    Blocs Wave was a sample based revolution for me, and something I still use a lot, sequencing in Auria Pro and mastering using FF plug-ins.

    BM2 I tried and didn't like. BM3 looks like something a whole lot better, but I wonder if it'd be yet another app that through no fault of the developers, would just end up sitting in a folder rarely used.

    The introduction price is likely fair for such a comprehensive app, but it's still nearly £20, for something I've yet to be sold upon as something that would fit into my workflow. At a tenner, I'd p probably take a chance, but obviously BM3 is not intended for that end if the App Store.

  • I don't 'make beat' type of music, and I already have enough drum machines (i.e. more than one) and I simply never sample. I used to have a minor-level Akai sampler back in the 90s but I realised that the whole sampling process, whilst it got me out of the house with a portable DAT, took far too much time versus the results. Sampling is very much like photography, I feel, but the result is smaller. Drum machines are not really where I like to spend my time. Such focus on minor details seems to be more important at the time than it will turn out to be once the whole piece is being heard by normal people.

    But, as if to contradict what I say, I did actually purchase a sampling drum machine for beat type of endeavours, the making of. I bought Beat Machine, a long time ago. Never used it in anything, but I've nothing against it. If other people who make beats seem to think this BM3 is good, I'll happily recommend it to others who may wish to make a beat or two.

  • It looks cool and everything but I have enough DAWs, Modstep now integrating more tightly with AB3 means I need to stick to these and learn them properly.

  • @RustiK said:
    Decent is all buttoned up. Descent has all the fun because it gets to climb down a mountain. Dissent is what you do when the glee club wants to get matching red outfits but you like purple.

    I'm not buying BM3; I'm just here to quote this excellent post.

  • I was into not buying BM3 before it was even released.

  • It has to be said that sampler looks pretty slick and super easy to get stuff into the pads.

    I should stop watching the vids ...

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