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You know me Zen, if I wasn't happy with BM3 the whole World would know about it...
IAA from BM3 works well, it's when you want to sequence via another app into Beatmaker 3 there are problems.
eg Audiobus 3 midi doesn't work (unless you use core midi workaround).
If you want to use it as a mixing hub like AUM for other external apps to sequence to it's difficult....Midi channel selection doesn't work. The only midi port which works for me to receive notes from is the Beatmaker port but because you can't isolate channels, this is pretty limited. If anyone finds a workaround I'd be interested though
Hopefully that's on the list of fixes to do.....
a note on using BM3 to create other stuff than beats or 4/4 pop loops:
I get it when ppl say BM3 is great for non-beatmakers on iOS as well, I do (and even if it wouldn't, a kind of misuse can be very satisfying), but it feels a tad un-pragmatic and not particularly exciting to do more experimental stuff on the BM3.
For example, I only discovered Dhalang today and was totally blown away by its capabilities (particle 'scaping, highly detailed parameter control, vector and matrix options etc,) oh my what a treasure. Curiously, the developed has apps for navigating Torah and Quaran numerically. Going back to anything like BM3 etc feels like wasted potential. That's of course because I want to use my iPad to learn more about music, especially from non-Western and more experimental and electro-acoustic perspectives.
But as far as beat-programming and getting most out of your AU goes, it's great. Although after a few days I still appreciate AUM + midi apps more for complicated midi connections and AU parameter manipulation, then again I dont particularly wanna record automation.
Like a BASS STATION?
Bought it.
Love it.
Using it.
Truly inspired.
Wanting more...
But wow...they blew the doors off with this app.
Peace.
Back to sequencing and BM3 noodling.
BM3 is perfect. We just need more AU goodness on IOS. It seems to be that basically BM3 was made to be future proof. With the scene launching it covers pretty much all areas. It doesn't have built in synths but AU more than sorts that out. Now I wish all of my favourite apps were made AU. IAA seems to have been ill conceived from the start. I never had them recalling properly, be it in Cubasis or other daws.
So what's the next AU candidate? Samplr? Impaktor?
Yep, with iOS 11 full screen AUs and midi out, any app can potentially be an AU so the future looks good
For me it's: Kaspar, Phosphor 2 and Zeeon
Zeeon
AGREED!!!!
Someone like your opinion will surely allow me to reset my views and reassess in a week or 2.
I value your input regarding apps like this.
Nah I'm waiting for the new Loopy
Just had my first 'issue'. Opened a song I'm working on, and the baseline was different - detuned somehow, different from my last saved version. I've had this with Gadget in the past, and one of the reasons I don't use it.
Tried loading in a new sample, to see if that was a problem, and the browser was completely screwed up, not showing samples, and then seemed to go blank. Very odd.
Anyway, closed/reopened BM3, replaced the sample, retuned it and edited the notes (as they were out too) and saved.
Something else I've noticed - when I start the app, instead of showing my last saved song at the top of the list, there's an auto-saved version.
Weird. Hope this isn't a thing - nothing more off-putting than losing work.
As far as production goes, this app isn't ready for that. I'm a bit teed off that patterns are lumped in with the song arranger, and that applies to the audio clips as well as midi. The pattern preview window having the dual function of the patttern or audio clip browser is also a bad idea. Give us the browser and the session folder and we will be able to manage the project fine. These new concepts... they are cause for concern. In the mean time while the Intua team gets busy on bug fixes I'm happy to work on making instrument banks to perfection
I have no need for it, but I am not aggressively not buying it.
Hmmm...definitely seems a bit quirky, maybe the song/pattern/clip jumble caused a glitch when I saved. Seems to be behaving itself now, but I'm concerned with the two 'auto-saves' that keep appearing when I open up the app.
Don't get me wrong Rustic, the app still crashes. I found a reproduceable crash when pressing record button on the fly while moving a built in filter knob. Having said that it is still early days even after such a long wait. It will get there eventually as did bm2 and I'm ready to cut Intua some slack considering the complexity of the app.
I think my current enthusiasm comes from the fact that I'm finding AU so reliable and very much comparable to desktop plugins. It is about time for apps to start behaving like they should. iOS music platform is growing up, I think we're almost ready to leave teenage angst and drama.
I am sitting in the loopy pro waiting room while noodling with BM3
Those you can manage in the Unsaved Sessions folder in the browser.
The BM3 Forum is probably a more useful place to discuss this app nowadays. You're more liable to get a response directly from the dev.
https://intua.net/forums/
Quite. But never maliciously. Also, from your posts, I know that you don't buy £20 apps on impulse. So, among others here, you have me watching and considering. Always happy to change my tune - and mind - in the light of new info.
Yeah tried that - removed all unsaved sessions from that folder, and checked all the others too. Saved the song, log back in and two auto saves still listed.
Up until the mucked up bass line, and weird 'auto-save' strangeness I'd have said this would be one of the most used apps on my iPad - love it. But I haven't got time for losing work and fannying about, so if that happens on a regular basis, and they don't offer a fix, it's refund time.
As you said, this site is a business. Any owner is going to want their site to reflect their values, and reflect well on their business. It doesn’t belong to the members; it’s a resource provided for us. The owners decide what has value here. So far the AB forum has been embraced by most of the iOS music community, and few here feel unnecessarily restricted.
There’s nothing stopping people from starting their own site where threads can be created with provocative titles calling companies derogatory names, ranting about or against them, and then everyone battling over whether the original poster is a luminary or a time-waster. This forum apparently isn’t that place.
Yeah think I'll have to, starting to notice a bit of strangeness.
Louis C.K. is the voice of a generation.
Used it quite a bit with no issues but some weird crashes lately. Bug fix update coming soon. Hopefully...
Very sensible dude
I bougt BM3. After few days i returned it and asked for refund. Why ?
Short story - i hate changes they did, i don't like that it moved from pure DAW more to something between MPC on steroids and NI Maschine (btw look at NI iMaschine 2 - i thing Intua get STRONG inspiration by it's interface :-)). I don't like pad -centric architecture...
Long story:
First of all - problem is, thst there is few things you can't do in BM3 which were possible in BM2. And which were crucial for my workflow.
Not possible to group audio tracks
In BM2 it was possible to change audio track out from master to any AUX. First 4 aux channels are classic sends but channels 5+ can be used as groups.
There is no such posibility in BM3. You cannot group audio tracks - major issue for something which wants to be universal DAW
Not possible record IAA directly to audio track
In BM2 it was possible to record IAA audio directly to track where were midi notes (as another sub-track), cause track in BM2 can generally hold on both midi and audio. This was super handy.
No such possibility in BM3. You need first record to sampler, then save to disk, then go to sequencer, load saved audio to audio track. Too much added steps compared to simple hit and record in BM2.
Plus you can't have together (vidually close each other) midi and audio in sequencer because audio tracks are top level
tracks in BM3 but midi (instrument) tracks are "hidden" inside bank tracks
which leads me to another major issue
Not possible to see ALL instrument tracks in project at once - neither in sequencer nor in mixer
This is basically showstopper for me. Imagine project with 15+ instrument tracks, but in sequencer you see just "bank" tracks (same in mixer) - until you go inside bank where you see instrument tracks - but now only instrument tracks inside THIS bank. No way to fet global view over whole project like in all traditional DAWs
One can argue that i can put whole project into one bank. But this is not real option cause Banks works also as groups - so if i want use groups i need split instrument tracks between banks. (But don't forget there is just 8 banks, som you cannot have more than 8 groups in
project !!)
No possible open mixer and continuouśy scroll across all instrument tracks together with audio tracks and auxes - cause you see just bank tracks, and to see instrument tracks you need to go inside bank
you see notes in pattern preview just as one row of dots
In all classic daws, clip (pattern) in sequencer timeline displays preview of notes inside it so you have visual overvoew of which melody is approximatéy in tht clip. BM2 is not different.
Not a case in BM3. In main sequencer timeline, you see inpattern all instruments tracks which are inside just as single row of dosts. Maybe noce for drums but NOT for chromatic melodies. Even when you go inside bank track pattern, you still don't see melodies but just single row of "notes" for each instrument channel.
All instruments inside bank share same pattern
This is anoher major drawback for more complex music. Imagine project with many instrument tracks, various melodies, arpeggios... every one have various length and usually in daws you have them as clips (==patterns) in project (in sequencer timeline) and move/copy then over timeline. Easy in BM2.
In BM3 not possible - all instruments inside one bank are 1 pattern and you can move/copy in sequencer timeline just this whole pattern with all instruments inside at ocene.
Hell, this is what ?? For what kind of music is this app when i can have basically just 8 various patterns playing at one moment in sequencer ?? BM3 for me looks like just very advanced drum machine with added few DAW goodies - but they are just added as little bonus and it is expected that novody will use them to much deeply, beats comes first.
All this for me means that BM2 works as traditional linear seaquemcer DAW for me LOT better. BM3 is more groovebox for loop based beat oriented genres (clearly hiphop is on first place) whose don't need much complexity, doesn't contain too much melodies and harmonies - just some beats, few samples, and that's all...
How do you think BM3 compares (or potentially compares) to other sample editing slash beat making tools on iOS? Or do you have any use for that kind of tool to begin with?
Apart from the saving issue I love it, so will hold on for a bit to see if they're going to bring out updates soon. Had a similar situation with iMPC Pro though - held out, missed the refund window and stuck with a lemon.
This fits into my workflow perfectly, and is better than I expected. If they fix the bugs this is a keeper, but I'm mindful of that 14 day refund window.
https://www.psyshop.com/shop/Downloads/gre/gre1dw148.html
produced this EP in BM2, used jusr IAA synths (sunrizer, thor, nave) and internal BM2 fx's