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Thanks! I read a very good book called Guerilla Home Recording and it contains a great tip about mixing and tweaking as you build the song.
This means that once you get to the mix down stage, you’re not far off.
Fab Filters in Auria Pro also take a lot of the pain out. PRO L is great for mastering.
However, one week later, I now realise that I mixed the bass guitar too low in the main body of the song
@AndyPlankton Fun stuff and sounds good, but I could sense that you're not done. There's a Lego effect right now, in that you have blocks of music, stacked in different ways throughout. I think the guitar and other touches you might add will help obscure this effect by bridging across the blocks. Of course, it's always nice if a song can dive off in a completely different direction for a while, too, but easier said than done. Maybe try doing a couple different takes on the organ loop, or even add a second hand to it for variation and complexity. Only other thing I should say is that I would consider it a great song for walking down the street with my headphones, but maybe not dancing? It's too slow a bpm for me to consider dancing to, not that I dance, but the sample does fit nicely into the mix, so take it how you will.
@lukesleepwalker This one has left me a bit flat footed. I do like the music— well mixed, performed and sung (though your lead vocal seems to clip at times). I also like where you're going with the lyrics. The problem is that the lyrics and music don't go together for me. I'm not saying that any song that mentions haunting has to be creepy sounding, but this song is way too upbeat to be congruent, imo. That bouncy baseline especially. I'm a big fan of songs that pit sad words against peppy music (.eg Magnetic Fields) but it just doesn't seem to work here somehow.
Not sure what to tell you. Personally, I think you should write new lyrics that fit the more upbeat feel of the song, then take the "haunted" concept and flesh out a new song for it. They're both valid. I just don't think they can coexist as is.
Yeah spot on about the lego effect...I do tend to build stuff as blocks to start, and then shave the edges off those blocks and interleave them to smooth it after..the live playing on top will help with this....
you know, when you are drunk and you think you are throwing some awesome shapes, when in fact you are just bobbing and waving your arms about, dad dance stylee LOL
I did have the same thought regarding the tempo and dancing....it works for slo' mo' dancing though
Thanks for your time and feedback
@Retzilience Very good. Especially enjoy the lush random strings scattered throughout. Some high and sparkly, others low and dirty, then the in-between. Also like the slightly non-sequitur turns, keeping things interesting. Onward.
Only bits of advice concerns the samples. Some are too hot or don't mix tonally. Use a dynamic EQ to pull their frequencies into the same zones and get them sounding more alike. Also, some samples have too much ambient audio leaking in and/or too quick a cutoff. I might add some reverb or echo to mask the deficiencies in the source audio then, if you can, add white noise and vinyl crackle (I hear some in there already) between the samples so they don't go straight to silence (too abrupt). You might add some to the front and back on individual samples as well, so that you can ramp their volumes more slowly and glide back into the mix. Or don't. Crap like this is why I take forever making a song.
@AndyPlankton Really good groove in this. Started off like Nine Inch Nails, then heard a cleaner Revolting Cocks/Ministry vibe.
Felt like the mechanical nature of the bass could’ve been humanised a bit. The addition of guitars should give it an edge.
Really enjoyed, I look forward to more.
I like the sounds here, and the basic foundation, but at about the 2:00 mark, the main riff was starting to wear on me, and I was ready for the track to take me somewhere new. Lots of interesting bits in there, that work well together, for sure.
This is the kind of stuff I find interesting to listen to, sort of a mix of genres, traditional sounds mixed with some modern productions, noise trickery. That part of it is very well done. I think, for me, in needs a couple of vocal lines sung at various points to serve as a hook to make me want to listen to it again and again. Otherwise, what's there is very well mixed, arranged, and executed.
Nice song - I liked this. Nice arrangement, I like the way it builds, bits added as the song progresses to hold interest. IMO the guitar sounds are good, no issue with those. I use tonestack for most of mine as well. My critique of the mix - I think sometimes the backup "ooo-ooo" vocals are a little to up front compared to the lead vocals. The bass seemed a little hot to me - I might put it up next to a similar reference track in you DAW and see how it compares. Maybe put a HPF on both yours and the reference track and see how the low-ends compare. The acoustic panned right - I thought it needed to be more present during the parts with vocals, but during the guitar solo, it seemed fine. maybe some EQ of the acoustic guitar could give it it's own space in the spectrum and allow it to be heard more without getting in the way of the vocal. hope this is helpful. cheers!
Agree, @aaronpc that the song doesn't feel like it has an emotional center (your suggestions are good ones) and thanks @Shaken&;Stirred for mixing suggestions. I'm just terrible at mixing and mastering, though I want to get better so SOTMC is good training ground.
I look forward to next month when I can keep up with all the songs and post comments! Has anyone tried a "Collaboration of the Month" project? There seems to be such a high level of skill and varied styles that collaborating seems like it could produce really interesting results...
Has anyone tried a "Collaboration of the Month" project? There seems to be such a high level of skill and varied styles that collaborating seems like it could produce really interesting results...
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I’ve thought about this too, but it would be a logistical nightmare!
I feel a song needs an inspirational germ to start, then it’s a case of a scrabble over who does each instrumentation.
The only way is to have a ‘Leader’ who selects each player. Would be cool though.
Thanks Mister Def. It was the Neo on keys....
Like a lot of this. Has real joie. And Emmylou on backing vocals is always a good choice. I like the unorthodox mixing choices as regards the backing levels, but the mix (or maybe the shape) feels a bit full on. I really like the ending. So hard to figure out some times and I think you nail it here (may not be for everyone, but that's always going to be the way). Finally, I think with the lyrics you have here I would like some more misery or heartbreak in the lead vox, but this is pretty bouncy stuff. I know, no one listens to the lyrics
Like a man who gets on the bus just as it's heading over the cliff. I don't know whether it's the suggestion but I find myself begging for guitar on this as well. I like how the industrial segues into some ska/reggae feel as well. And good vocally bits (technical term). A good bed, interested to see what you do with it.
I am utterly exhausted. That was a draining PACKED TO THE BURSTING 12 minutes. I have no idea how you keep the energy up, let alone assemble such a stream of associative chatter flow. AND how long it must have taken you to edit it etc. All good, but the baked bean scene as it will come to be known down the years is True You. One day, long after your gone, someone's going to be playing that and saying no, really, that was your great granddad... Makes me feel quite historically inadequate....
@JohnnyGoodyear thanks for feedback; confirmed my gut feelings on the tune. I could listen to your entry this month again and again if for no other reason to listen to that neo soul EP. It has a gravitas that imparts body language before any vocal arrives. The vocal is effective, the lyrics direct, the overall impression his the mark. Bravo.
SOTMC Reviews.
Great that the tub is filling up with so many lithe bods. Very healthy this month. You should all take a bow. Much applause. Workout vid is toning the tums and now time to silk the skin. Apologies for whatever is on here as had little spare time and had to rush it (ha). So here's the offcuts that you will/won't be able to see because most had to be recorded evening/night. Unlikely to have the time to 'do everyone' next month and was pushing Punk posterior to do so this time around.
Usual Punk Rules Apply. Pinch of salt. Happy Halloween.
@Retzilience Thank you. 'Blur on bath salts' gives me an idea. Cheers.
Many thanks Jeff. The Sleafords are safe for now but have messaged the pair for a support slot to see if they'll give a Punk pensioner 10 minutes on stage. At least the 'after gig cleaners' will have something to listen to.
Thank you. Hope that baked beans are still around for our grandkids to deep cleanse with. Still haven't got over the death of 'Cadbury's Aztec.'
My pleasure. It was Sids fault. I wanted to cut that scene out.
Thanks Crouchie. I think I just used a single instance of it, with a slightly altered preset as a bit of a background rhythm to compliment the other stuff going on. To be honest I'm not using it now as it's crashed and has quite a few bugs. Needs an update that one.
Thanks Retzilience, it's recorded straight from AUM live, so there's no proper EQ-ing or mixing going on, and I can't tweak it afterwards. Worth noting though, maybe I'll try recording separate channels from AUM into Auria in future.
Thank you Jeff, I really appreciate the compliment.
Yeah it's a good album that one. My favourite is 'Now is the happiest time of your life', beautiful album. One of my heroes.
1st November - I need to get my feedback for others tracks done, should have that up later today.
@zpxlng completely bonkers. Art of Noise covering Syd Barrett, the supergroup the eighties never saw. Glad I don't take drugs anymore, who knows what this could have done to my brain.
I like the whimsy, it really bought "Effervescing Elephant" to mind, just because it's silly, psychedelic, and about animals. Your sound is your own though. Fun song, well done.
@lukesleepwalker welcome to the club. I really like the song, the intro vocals reminds me of "New Slang" by the Shins, in a good way, not because it's derivative.
I like the fact it's a duet - can't have had many of those posted here before, and the vocals are great. The song has very good dynamics, with pauses and instruments dropping out.
I think the production could be fleshed out a little more, it's quite sparse on the whole - but that's possibly a personal choice. Also the guitar tone on the solos could maybe be a tad warmer, since there isn't anything that the guitar is really competing with in the mix it might not need to be quite so cutting.
But this is a great entry: good song, great vocals, nice melodies. Keep writing them. You say you've been working on this tune for a couple of years - write a new one every month and you'll thank me in a couple of years when you've got an album's worth of material!
@AndyPlankton some good stuff in there but it does feel unfinished. I like the main synth riff, it's really cool, and the samples are good, and the dubby bit that kicks in after the one minute mark is wonderful, really brings the tune to life.
I think my feeling is that the song has lots of great ideas, but it seems to fizzle out in the second half, it runs out of novelty and steam - maybe the guitar you were planning to add would have given it that second-half lift that it needs, because I think with just one more interesting musical idea to flesh out the second half you would have a truly terrific tune.
SOTMC has one great benefit: if you stick to the schedule it imposes terrific discipline. Whatever else you do in your free time has to take second place to this. Put down those Playstation controllers and finish your track
In all honesty it sometimes is a huge struggle for me to get tracks finished in time (and I always post them late in the month), but I just about manage, it just means I never do much else in what little spare time I have in my life.
He's generally right as regards the SOTMC, but I think especially so in your case...
Yessir, I'm looking at it as "getting in shape" from a writing and producing perspective--time to get off the couch! Appreciate the encouragement, enablement, whatever it's called these days.
Thanks! I'm really getting the feel I need vocals, your feedback just corroborates it! Thanks!
Yeah, after hearing it a couple of times I got the feeling that the high end was a bit hot and yeah I'm adjusting to noise and crackling, always tried to keep it clean. I'll be very attentive to it. Thanks!!
Totally, by the second minute I was thinking if I should change the guitar sample and how it played. On point. Thanks a lot for this feedback.
@Bluepunk
Thanks a lot for the review! And answering the most important question: I'm feeling better, starting to transition to a more fruitful life phase, had some health and financial crisis around me and I'm getting my body and spirits up, getting out of a job I hated and transitioning to a way more healthy trade! Thanks for the care!
Maybe I should sing about it.
Thanks for your insightful presence!
Yeah man, I really like what you've got going here, and I think the guitar will help add the variation and interest that it needs. What's there sounds good to my ears, I really like the sound selection, and look forward to hear where this goes!
@studs1966, another great EDM offering. Ready for commercial release, everything is well placed. Great usage of a capella voices. Bravo!