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@Joel75 It’s a very good production overall, especially once the whole band sounds kick in.
I found the starting piano a touch too ‘stabby’.
I like the orchestral keyboard pads when they come in, very Killers sounding. The ending didn’t quite work for me, maybe something more dramatic needed to just suddenly bring things to a close?
Thank u v much, and good comment. Cheers
Recorded entirely in Auria Pro. Some bits sent from a basic sketch in Cubasis. Guitars through Saturn. Some keys from the various options in Auria.
@theconnactic, definitely hear the Santana sound on the lead guitar. Sounds great. Liked the little bend at :36 and the way you dropped out the bass and percussion at :49. Cool little harmonic "squeals" starting at 1:49, and I loved when the lead melody was doubled by the acoustic chords, with the melody being the top note of the chord. That was awesome. Only slight gripe is strictly a matter of personal preference; I'm way more a proponent of melodies that are singable, that get stuck in my head, so 16th note triplet "shredding" type runs, while impressive (God knows I can't play like that), don't quite do it for me. Again, just personal preference, I really liked the main melody and overall sound. Nice job!
@crouchie, I really liked the overall sound. Mellow, yet powerful (mainly due to the vocal). Low pitched, but mixed really well, reminded me of some things I've heard by a band called Editors. That filtered electric piano sound was really nice.
Nice catch, as the Killers and Keane are the 2 bands that I just can't get enough of, and I know their sound heavily influences my writing and production.
Great guitars and drums on Furniture. The whole tune just had a great energy to it. Loved the way you ended it, especially the bass sound and "laser blippy" sounds that were tucked in there. Loved the lead vocal sound, and the harmonies almost got there but there may have been a tiny pitch issue in spots. It sounded like there was a spot or 2 where there might have been some steady piano 8th notes in the right speaker, and if so, I think those could be brought out a lot more. I was impressed!
This is a great tune. I don't really trust myself (as regards giving honest feedback) because I am very biased towards your stuff, just love the music and the words and that seems more than a fellow could ever fairly ask for
I did get a clue from the pine reference and lonely Mister Death seemed to fit. I always feel Death is lonely (as a character unto himself etc), but never really realized that before now....anyway, just a lush thing of very good.
In case you're collecting votes, I quite considerably prefer the first mix/version. Seems warmer (comparatively).
I turned around for ten minutes this month and you chaps went nuts. Good to see
And yes much reviewing to catch up on....here's my slight yet heartfelt contribution.
Not Who We Were (song for Lou Reed)
It's not a song for Lou Reed in as far as it being in memory of him, more a song for him to do the vocal on.
When you call his name at night
and tell me it's in dreams
I still smile, say is that so
to me that's not how it seems
how did we come to this sad place
far from where we began
you're not the girl that you once were
but then I'm no longer that man
Thanks so much. Suppose I should be asking you kind folk just what makes this one stand out among the weeds and faff of my previous entries so I don't forget those point(s) when sifting through the many 'Needs Working On' columns. Off to see the boys next weekend and shall be singing along to these lyrics from Face to Faces:
"In our failure to grab hold of what fuckin little we have left,
we have lost the sight, and in the loss of sight, we have lost our fuckin minds.... alright."
Thanks again.
The following was written very much off-the-cuff and in the moment, as per the thread instructions. I wrote it all in a friendly tone, and I hope it's not a special effort to read it that way!
@studs1966
Original mix: I love the fun, floaty jumble of synth sounds in this. I liked it more before the syncopated/reggae groove kicked in, just 'cause I'm not into that, and because the first few seconds of the track reminded me of those early, Moog-y, what's-a-synthesizer-ooh-isn't-this-novel instrumental records from olden times, which are, by contrast, very much my jar of marmalade. Still: the mix is nice. Probably a bit too long.
Disco Infusion mix: Aw yeah boy. Aw yeah. The vocal track doesn't really... snap into place, does it? But other than that this is some sweet disco. Since it's fine-ass disco I don't mind the length so much in this case, but it might be nice if the vocals let up for a bit in a couple of places -- they're a bit relentless, you know? Wanna rest my mind a bit and just enjoy that groove. (The thing about vocals, or any human speech, is that they demand attention, whether they are interesting or not!)
@aaronpc
The mix is a bit messy I reckon but I do love this sound of this; I love that melodically pulsing wall of sound. They're all 'singing-like' sounds too which I personally dig. I would like the percussion to be: more impressive and much more prominent in the mix, OR much more minimal, OR... absent altogether? My feeling is, the droney, flow-y, WWWYOWWWWW, WWWYOWWWWW of the melody can carry itself, like a river -- it really is lovely. So if you're gonna juxtapose it with that more frenetic beat, juxtapose the SHIT out of it, make it INTERESTING with HUGE CONFIDENCE. As it is, it kinda feels like the music doesn't really know what it's doing. I like the lyrics -- clear yet thoughtful -- and two thumbs up for "whomever", God bless you my child.
@JeffChasteen
"Strange and plaintive" is about right. I mean this is just BGM really, but it's largely pleasant to my ears. Not sure about the scratchy strings that come in at the two-thirds mark; I mean I assume the intention is to jar, but that doesn't mean it doesn't jar. But as with @aaronpc's piece, I do enjoy these slowly flowing rivers of cool sounds.
@marliess
Since this a pastiche I don't feel like there's much I can say about it, except that I love that you've turned the vapidity of the lyrics up to eleven at some points: "Jump on my trampoline, hubba bubba" etc. Lots of fun. Only thing is: does it sound like '50s rock and roll? Feels like a later decade to me. The video's cute, so thanks for going to the effort!
@theconnactic
This is not my scene, so I'm sorry I can't offer much feedback. It's nice and I can tap my fingers to it! It's cool that it's basically harmless acoustic café fare but you cut a bit sick on the electric in there too. I guess if you wanted it to be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, your playing could be a tiiiny bit tighter in a couple of places, and the mix could be a tiiiny bit cleaner overall, but, pfff, who am I to criticise.
@Shaken&;Stirred
I love the way this opens! The way you quickly introduce a couple of parts and put them together to create that cute, bouncy little groove. That a toy piano sounds both cute and kinda 'off' makes it a good choice for this song. The percussion rhythm in that groove is really nice too. I wish there were a way to maintain some of that weirdness into the 'body' of the song which is closer to just conventional rock. It is plenty weird nonetheless though and the rock rocks as it should, and the transitions all work, and the slow-down-break-down in the middle definitely maintains interest and draws attention to the combination of elements that makes the song interesting. By the way, I've been lurking in these threads for months and have been waiting to tell you: vocally you are a dead ringer for John Flansburgh in his 'rock mode', and you seem to have a lot in common with him too in terms of where your interests lie both musically and lyrically. It is quite uncanny; I am struck by it every month.
(Didn't have time for the second version, sorry. Blame @studs1966.)
@Bartlinux
Thank you for choosing these lovely, airy, low-fi sounds and putting them together to make a groove that I enjoy very much! Could use some variation though. And by some I mean a lot. I mean if it's BGM or for in a club or whatever I guess it's no problem but to sit and listen to... nah man, I'd skip to the next track. This may be an unexpected comparison but it reminded me of the opening theme tune for 'Tales from Fat Tulip's Garden', if that means anything to you. Anyway, it's a good thing.
@trackedout
Not my small tupperware container of nuts and dried fruit I'm afraid, so I won't say much, but I mean: for noisy mumbly grunge faff, this sounds great! Really very much like something I'd have enjoyed on Triple J in the '90s when my taste-hole was less clenched. At first I felt like the vocals were a bit TOO loud and reverb-y, but by the end I'd gotten used to it. Which version of my ears should you trust? I do not know. Anyway good luck with whatever it is that's gotten you down.
@MonzoPro
Nice jam, man! Kept it interesting enough throughout! Not the kind of thing I stir merrily into my yoghurt each morning but if you were my housemate cooking this up in the corner of the living room during a house party, I'd be giving you a slightly stoned thumbs up. If you were at it every night though I'd snap eventually, jesus christ Monzo other people live here too you know. Jesus! Taking up the whole damn corner of the living room! Jesus, Monzo! And you still owe this month's rent!
@Bluepunk
In some universe, someone played some track of yours on a particular late-night radio show on a particular day, at a particular time, and years later you're world-famous in a permanently underground sort of way. In the mid twenty-aughts, just before the Inner West turned to shit, you'd have played with five other overseas weirdos at some tiny gig near Newtown in Sydney and utterly delighted me, and I've have bought your homemade CD and played it very loud in my shitty mouldy apartment, to the tolerant bemusement of my kind upstairs neighbour Scott. But you probably get that a lot.
@crouchie
Yeah the mix (or master?) needs work, and the vox are too quiet and it would definitely be better if that were a genuine Dave Gahan and not a Chinese knock-off, BUT, I like the sound of this! Good noises! I listened to it twice! That high-pitched, echoing 'bwee' that comes in every four bars is a nice touch, and the background 'choir' sounds amazing -- who or what is that? The 'babble' vox that come in here and there are cool too; another nice touch. It's kind of standard new wave misery so that kind of thing can make it stand out. The song needs a stronger hook though, though that's not on you I suppose. I dunno, maybe a rhythm change at some point? Something.
@Joel75
This sounds like, ya know, pop of the current now, which I don't care for, but I will try to be helpful if I can. I think the 'telephone' vox carry on a bit long at the start -- gets tiresome. "What's wrong with this song?" I begin to wonder. Also: a drum beat other than "BOOM, chf, ba-boom-boom chf" would probably kick this up a notch, don't you reckon? That aside: nice production skills, friend! I'm envious! Do something crazier with them; you can always reel it back in if you go too far off the rails. Mix it like a metaphor!
@aaronpc
Re: Blotto Staccatto: I know this isn't technically an entry but just wanted to say I dug the very hell out of this. Tight, tight, delight, not a boring second. Ooh! Ooh yeah that's the business. Smooth yet crunchy. Thank you for making and sharing this. Damn, man. P.S. Do you put this stuff on bandcamp?
@DefRobot
Aw heck, man! Sounds like you're in a band and that band recorded a song! Wish I had more to say. The only thing I can think of is that if there had been, somehow, more and better build-up before the sudden drop-off at the end, I would have felt more satisfied. That's a bit vague but it's all I've got for the moment. This was a nice song, nothing wrong with it, but I probably won't listen to it again, except maybe out of guilt now that I've said that.
@JohnnyGoodyear
This is quite lovely. Not much to say about it musically -- it sounds like you got what you were going for -- except that I particularly like that soft Rhodes-y keyboard part; it really 'fills out' the song. And anyway it's just such a nice sound. "You're not the girl that you once were, but then I'm no longer that man" is the kind of lyric that SEEMS simple and easy to write, but, oof! Man. Just perfect. A classic lyric, often quoted, in some universe. Since the second half is just the first half repeated, I could have gone for a bit more variation in terms of instrumentation or whatever, but I get the impression you probably thought of that already and made your choice.
Very Good. Probably an A rather than a B+ I think. I can definitely imagine this one as a coda to Berlin, being sung by Mr Reed, especially as the subject matter fits the theme of the album so perfectly (the divided city as a metaphor for the divided couple). The first line especially has that Lou Reed feeling, but the song is very much you.
I quite like the loose double-tracking, as if sung by a drunken singer, again it just conjures the right feeling of it's-all-fucked-up-so-I-don't-care. Great vocal melody, you're getting much better at those, and it's a great song. In my producer hat I might have added some sad cello in the second half, but then again it might have ruined the whole thing.
OK so I released an album at the end of September which I posted here to a very, uh, peaceful response! "You overwhelm us, Patrick," said the silence. "Please, one slice of genius at a time. We are but mortal."
I understand, friends. But which track to choose? In the end I've chosen 'I AM A CAMEL', mostly because it's the one I think people here would appreciate best, not least because it's a finished song (or 'song') made mostly with Yellofier, and I know y'all chow down on that granola. It's the oddest, proggiest song of an eclectic bunch; I hope it brings you some kind of pleasure, even if it's the simple pleasure of recognising which apps and sounds I used. (Sans mastering, the whole project was done on my ipad pro.)
Bandcamp and soundcloud -- I'm at wherever you're at!
https://patrickalexander.bandcamp.com/track/i-am-a-camel
Lyrics:
I might look like a little caterpillar
I might look like a little caterpillar
I might look like a little caterpillar
I might look like a little caterpillar
I might seem like a tiny caterpillar on a leaf
Nothing but a drop of dew and me
Am I a little caterpillar?
I might look like a little caterpillar
I might look like a little caterpillar
I might look like a little caterpillar
I might seem like a tiny caterpillar on a leaf
But that’s your belief
I am a camel!
I am a camel!
I am a camel! I am a camel! I am a camel!
I am a camel! I am a camel, and I’ve got lots of friends!
I am a camel (She is a camel)
I am a camel (She is a camel)
I am a camel (She is a camel)
I’m a big, big camel (Oh what a camel)
(La, la, la-la-la, la, la-la)
(La, la, la-la-la, la, la-la)
(La, la, la-la-la, la, la-la)
(La, la, la-la-la, la, la-la)
Well a camel, which is what I am,
Is tall enough to ride a man
Yes it’s easy to climb up a tree
For a camel, for example me
Well a camel, which is what I am,
(I am a dromedarian strong furry lumpy mammal)
Is tall enough to ride a man
(A man can’t step on me)
Yes it’s easy to climb up a tree
(‘Tremendous’ and ‘fleet’ are my bywords)
For a camel like me
(And a camel eats birds)
Camels live in the desert. That’s a place that’s yellow and empty. And in fact, you can see it from where we are right now. That’s right — I’m talking about the moon.
I am a camel. I can live for a thousand years on a single drop of water.
I am a camel. People show me respect, and if they don’t, I can spit in their face.
I am a camel. I sing to the night, a sweet baritone roar, rolling across the dunes.
I am a camel. And one day soon, I will become the biggest, hairiest butterfly you’ve ever seen.
I am a camel
I really am a camel
Why doesn’t anyone believe me?
Further babble:
My friend Ben said this reminded him of "that cool '80s Max Headroom song," so I acquainted and reacquainted myself (depending) with the Art of Noise's oeuvre, and wow, man... I did not aim to make an Art-of-Noisy song, but heck if I didn't make a pretty bloody Art-of-Noisy song. But that is a happy outcome, surely!
Thanks for your feedback on my track, I'm glad you liked it. You're not the first to liken my vocals to TMBG, but yours was the most emphatic. (I had to google John Flansburg, didn't know him by name). I then proceeded to listen to the "Flood" album as a refresher. I like them, saw them in Seattle in the 90's, and love their style, so I'll happily take the comparison as a compliment! BTW, a read thru their Wikipedia page is pretty fascinating, all the things they've had their hand over the past 20+ years is very impressive.
Cheers Johnny.....
Yeah it's my fault,........... Again......
@zpxlng, wow, that is... odd. I know you said earlier that "pop of the current now" isn't your thing, and your submission this month is proof of that! So even though it's not my style at all, I will point out that your production is quite good. I liked some of those low pitched, almost vocal-sounding synths going on in the track. I liked the little "popping" noises throughout the piece, and the panning of those sounds along with the almost atonal bell/chime sounds was nicely done. I think what most stands out to me is that you obviously created something different and innovative that YOU enjoy (and I'm sure others will too), it's well done with high production values, but it's not my thing. It's like really good broccoli. I have no doubt it's really good, and well prepared. But it's still broccoli. And you know what? A lot of people like broccoli!
@JohnnyGoodyear, I read a ton of your posts, but this is your first piece I've listened to. It actually inspires me to be more minimalist in my production approach, as I know I'm guilty of throwing too much in, and "Not Who We Were" really doesn't need anything more. It's the perfect treatment for the song. Nice EP sound, the chord progression is one that a listener's ear can easily latch on to, and the vocal melody was really nice. I particularly liked the flatted 7th on "you ONCE were"; I had to go back and listen to it a couple of times to figure out what you were doing there. Some might find the loose double tracking distracting, but I thought it really fit the mood perfectly. I need to go back and listen to more of your work here...
Thanks. Hopefully Scott would've enjoyed reading the fanzine wrapped around each cracked cassette case. Ah, my neighbour retention policy is governed by my bank account balance and the fluctuating 'underground commission rate' that local Estate Agents pay folk like me. If the rate increases, so does the spite and expletive count. Happy days.
Very catchy tune, and a strong track. I'm glad you mentioned using Saturn for the gits, I've been going to try that. I like the results you've gotten on this track. I like the vocals too. The harmonies are good, arrangement is good. If I had this track open in Auria in front of me, I might try to bring out the vocals a little more, using the usual tricks with EQ on the guitars, verb, or compression settings on the vocals. Its definitely not bad the way it is, but a little hard to pick out the lyrics in spots. I've listened to it twice so far, and got more the second time.
The only other thing is a nit pick, at the very end, when it goes back to the quiet filtered part, the drums end a little too abruptly, IMO. They sound choked, or a little unnatural. Maybe letting a cymbal hit spill over would help. Very minor thing though.
Again, great tune, and the kind of stuff I enjoy listening to. I look forward to more, cheers!
If this is for Lou, let's invite Laurie Anderson and make it a duet! I hear this working well in that context, with the second time through having the lyrics slightly altered reflecting the woman's perspective.
As it stands, I think the double tracking vocals work well. I might serve the server the song to change it up a little more the second time. Not sure, but I think the vocal doubling is a little different the second time through, which is good, and the percussion helps too, but I think some other change to add interest for the listener would be a good thing.
Aside from that, the mix, sounds, effects, all spot on, to my ears. very nice work!
Wow man, this is different! I applaud your creativity, and the production is completely top notch, well done! Listening to it, parts reminded me of bands with long names, "They Might be Giants", "The Dukes of Stratosphere" and "The Presidents of the United States of America". ...and one non-band, Dr. Seuss!
In the constructive criticism department, I'm coming up empty, I wouldn't change a thing! This is truly unique, great work!
@trackedout it's a loose lo-fi psychedelic epic this one. I really love the fuzzy guitar solo at two and a half minutes Bass line is great, vocals crazy but they work - especially the huh-huh hook. I'll have to agree with others that the cymbals are a bit tiring to listen to, either use them less, or push them back in the mix. The ending also let the track down I thought, not sure what that drum part was for, a fade out before the drums would have worked much better for me.
But otherwise it was a great listen and I really enjoyed it.
@MonzoPro Enjoying your recent output, it's a much more relaxing listen these days and easier to follow thanks to the semblance of structure that the tracks have. This one a is almost Orb-like, with the bleepy synth and the abstract textures behind it - a nice blend for the ears. I think this approach works, because you still have plenty of room for the crazy sounds, but the synth anchors the track and gives the listener something less abstract to follow while enjoying the constantly evolving noise behind it.
@Bluepunk I think that might be a SOTMC record for the most words squeezed into two minutes and 53 seconds.
It's a pretty chaotic listen, really frenetic towards the end, and laced with the usual wit. I love the asides coming from the left ("have you eaten?" "no") and some of the language is great ("it all went titanium up").
Musically it's a change from the guitars, definitely worth exploring this avenue some more as it's much more contemporary-sounding than the digi-punk. I think next time we should have some synths in there.
A solid B+
@crouchie the synth backing is great, and I love the chanting in the background - was that from the original demo or one of your additions?
The backing track is deliciously atmospheric. Only thing I'm not mad on is the hi-hat sound, maybe it's just too prominent in the mix but also its rhythm isn't all that groovy so I find it a little distracting.
The "Feel My Way" section is my favourite part of the vocals, but in all honesty I prefer your vocals
HUBBA BUBBA etc.
Fun and energetic with many touchstones for those of us of a certain age (guess that’s most folks). Did seem (lyrically) a bit like a thing of two parts, first half more generalized teen dreaming and then second more Marty related, but I envy you the clarity of the sound and your lead singer’s white and fluffy certainty
We are driving, having murdered, or about to be, optimistic, full of guilt, and this is our soundtrack as the wheels begin to fall off in every way, perhaps even in slow motion. Maybe with a voiceover added later, ideally by a young child or even a dog. I really liked it. Really want to see the film, or make it.
Thanks gaffer. If only Norris and Ross were still with us. Yes, it's crying out for synths but the withdrawal off Guitarism was littered with obstacles full of 'settings, buttons. Now that Cyclop has had an oil change and a starter handle is no longer required to fire the mental bastard up, I may take a look. Cheers.
Toast!
FIrst off, I admire your felicity with all three sets of strings and I could listen to the bass and acoustic all day long having a conversation with each other. I like the acoustic, but I love/am endlessly jealous of the way you can slide around on the bass. Personally (and thus the toast) I don’t get or enjoy the guitar lead. It feels like the big brother imposing themselves on the conversation, but I suspect that’s also -perhaps- a thing of age. I can imagine all kinds of other things on top of the canvas (especially words of course), but the lead guitar just doesn’t make me happy/speak to me. BUT that’s also what I appreciate about SOTMC; I listen to things I wouldn’t listen to and then think about how much I can revere someone’s ability without liking aspects of the final product. And I thank you for that.
In other news, I take it the video was done in LUMA? I have only scratched the surface and typically do video work on the desktop, but am away from home currently and have been thinking of editing on the iPad but need more than iMovie
Do you find the prep on your videos take you a long time?