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Yonac Kauldron

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  • Great deal of a synth it does sound really nice and the price is a no breainer! Got thru Doug’s Link.

  • @StudioES said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @StudioES said:
    Hi yall, seems like a bargain!
    What's the CPU hit with 1 instance in your AU hosts? Is it super low like the Brambos synths or high like KASPAR? Thanks!

    Okay quick non scientific test:

    Kauldron - around 4 to 6% at rest. Mid thirties on many presets playing pressing 4 keys at once and changing these.

    Phasemaker - pretty much the same results give or take.

    Thanks Fruitbat! It's very helpful for those of us on the Air 1 or Mini 2.
    And I believe I read earlier you use an Air 2; iOS11. 128 buffer?

    Yeah sorry forgot the details lol. Air2 iOS 11.1.1 AUM at 256

  • Is there anything special about the arp on this?

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  • @Tritonman said:
    Some of the presets are WAY better than others . I've found some nice moving patches that sound stunningly good. I love the nice AU form like everyone else as well. So far I have not a single complaint that would keep me from paying more than twice as much money even. Thanks Yonac folks! You gave us a winner and a real cheap thrill.

    Yeah my summery of the presets is a tad unfair, as I’ve obviously not spent much time with all of them. I felt pretty much the same flicking through the initial set of presets with Zeeon though and even when I had my Andromeda!

    I think it’s fair to say that IMO the sound engine gives me a VA vibe and the interface is welcoming enough to program your own sounds anyway. At £4 though it really is worth it to play with Spawn2 and see what you can get that way to tweak.

  • For 40 sek (swedish money which I think is 4 euro) I will buy this unheard just to support the dev and because I love his Galileo.

  • @fattigman said:
    For 40 sek (swedish money which I think is 4 euro) I will buy this unheard just to support the dev and because I love his Galileo.

    Galileo is a wholly underrated app. Absolutely brilliant, that one.

  • @dvlmusic said:

    @fattigman said:
    For 40 sek (swedish money which I think is 4 euro) I will buy this unheard just to support the dev and because I love his Galileo.

    Galileo is a wholly underrated app. Absolutely brilliant, that one.

    Yeah I would buy it again if it went AU

  • I hated Kaspar, I like this one better. It’s not blowing me away or anything though. Still, I struggle to think of a better synth for $4.

  • edited November 2017

    @oat_phipps said:
    I hated Kaspar, I like this one better. It’s not blowing me away or anything though. Still, I struggle to think of a better synth for $4.

    Better than Kaspar, Magellan, or MiniSynthII? Is there anything Kauldron offers that I can't do in one of the other 3 synths? Honest question - I really want to support Yonac here but I'm struggling.

  • really digging it

  • @dvlmusic said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I hated Kaspar, I like this one better. It’s not blowing me away or anything though. Still, I struggle to think of a better synth for $4.

    Better than Kaspar, Magellan, or MiniSynthII? Is there anything Kauldron offers that I can't do in one of the other 3 synths? Honest question - I really want to support Yonac here but I'm struggling.

    I can't answer this, but i know MiniSynth II (which i really don't like) and Magellan - and they are quite different. Compared to Magellan think it is easyer to get some "more meaty" sounds, but you can have good results with FM type sounds or digital stuff. Filter does seem to sound much nicer. Less FX. For me it is a better GUI. Some nice extra (or: different) features. The killer feature for me is Spawn2: It makes it to easy to get some really cool, unusal sounds.

    Oh, and if you are looking for a synth ideally suited for a horror movie: Here you are!

  • @dvlmusic said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I hated Kaspar, I like this one better. It’s not blowing me away or anything though. Still, I struggle to think of a better synth for $4.

    Better than Kaspar, Magellan, or MiniSynthII? Is there anything Kauldron offers that I can't do in one of the other 3 synths? Honest question - I really want to support Yonac here but I'm struggling.

    As far as I can tell, the preset Spwn thing is the only thing you’d be missing out on. And I’m pretty sure you’ll sleep soundly in knowing this. I mean it’s cool, and it seems to work well. But you kind of need to be a fan of random messes and repeatedly pushing a button I suppose. Personally, it gives me anxiety. But I’m haunted by OCD in these scenarios. But, flip side, it’s a small price to pay to keep the Yonacs lights on. And I highly doubt you’d actually regret buying it. But it might not be your sweetheart. ....or IT MIGHT?! ......was that helpful :#

  • @brice said:

    @dvlmusic said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I hated Kaspar, I like this one better. It’s not blowing me away or anything though. Still, I struggle to think of a better synth for $4.

    Better than Kaspar, Magellan, or MiniSynthII? Is there anything Kauldron offers that I can't do in one of the other 3 synths? Honest question - I really want to support Yonac here but I'm struggling.

    As far as I can tell, the preset Spwn thing is the only thing you’d be missing out on. And I’m pretty sure you’ll sleep soundly in knowing this. I mean it’s cool, and it seems to work well. But you kind of need to be a fan of random messes and repeatedly pushing a button I suppose. Personally, it gives me anxiety. But I’m haunted by OCD in these scenarios. But, flip side, it’s a small price to pay to keep the Yonacs lights on. And I highly doubt you’d actually regret buying it. But it might not be your sweetheart. ....or IT MIGHT?! ......was that helpful :#

    Hmmm... But Magellan also has the first version of Spawn. I'm thinking I might cave... but mostly because I don't have Kaspar and this one is AU and universal. thx for the honest feedback. :)

  • edited November 2017

    After reloading Magellan, I can see why I never took to it. Magellan’s UI is just far too busy for my liking. Also, while it’s cool to have so many FX, it’s also a pain that most the presets are swamped in them.

    Sometimes subtle is preferable, and everything about Magellan is far from subtle. Maybe I’ve been using too many Bram Bos apps lol

    I think that’s what I like about Kauldron, it feels a tad more friendly than most Yonic apps.

  • I bought it for two reasons: #1, Doug's overview video and #2, on sale during launch at a really great price. Pretty happy with it so far.

  • I mostly use Magellan as an IAA effect for other apps. For $5 it was worth it.

  • It’s 1:10am here in England. My wife is sound asleep and I’m not because of Kauldron.

    I was like “meh” at first about it but caved in and bought it because of the price and it’s yonac. £4 is nothing for what is actually a fully pro synth with all the trimmings.

    But lots of £4 keeps yonac inspired to make more apps

    So I bought it.

    Tried a couple of presets and thought ok, it sounds “pretty ok “.

    Then I started an init patch, started tweaking and twisting then hit the arp page... lingered a bit then hit the mod matrix and the xy pads and am hooked.

    If someone understands the principles of synthesis then it will be a joy, or if you like to randomise everything via the spawn then that is a delight too

    In short, it can create great stuff indeed, and unusual stuff too

    So, a coffee costs around £4 or a pint of beer, you drink that down in less than ten minutes

    You can keep Kauldron a lot longer than that lol

    It’s just a good app that’s easy to use, light on the cpu in AUM and ridiculously cheap

  • It’s worth it!!!
    Zeeon and this baby sound beautiful together :)

  • @DCJ said:
    Nope. Shows unavailable just like Odessa. The app store is absolute trash.

    The AppStore is totally rubbish. I want my wish-list back!!!

  • edited November 2017

    @Kühl said:

    @DCJ said:
    Nope. Shows unavailable just like Odessa. The app store is absolute trash.

    The AppStore is totally rubbish. I want my wish-list back!!!

    Instead of using the now deceased wishlist you can accomplish the same thing using the notes app. Just make a note called wishlist and add all the apps you want. Check out the screenshots Below.

  • @reV01D You should get Korvpressor asap...instant compressor magic.

  • @Love3quency said:
    If someone understands the principles of synthesis then it will be a joy, or if you like to randomise everything via the spawn then that is a delight too

    In short, it can create great stuff indeed, and unusual stuff too

    So, a coffee costs around £4 or a pint of beer, you drink that down in less than ten minutes

    You can keep Kauldron a lot longer than that lol

    It’s just a good app that’s easy to use, light on the cpu in AUM and ridiculously cheap

    When Yonac posted the initial teases for Kauldron a lot of us had some guesses as to what exactly the company was releasing next; regardless of what type of app was hypothesized NOBODY could of guessed it would be debuting for FOUR BUCKS!!

    Yes it has some similarities of Yonac’s other synths but it has more than enough individual strengths and a luscious ease of use that really make it an incredible midi synth.

  • @reV01D said:

    @Kühl said:

    @DCJ said:
    Nope. Shows unavailable just like Odessa. The app store is absolute trash.

    The AppStore is totally rubbish. I want my wish-list back!!!

    Instead of using the now deceased wishlist you can accomplish the same thing using the notes app. Just make a note called wishlist and add all the apps you want. Check out the screenshots Below.

    This is exactly what I’ve been doing!

  • That’s a good idea. Don’t forget though that your wish list is still intact in iTunes, I still use mine there. Well not sure about the most recent iTunes but I haven’t updated for a while

  • Then I started an init patch, started tweaking and twisting then hit the arp page... lingered a bit then hit the mod matrix and the xy pads and am hooked.

    If someone understands the principles of synthesis then it will be a joy, or if you like to randomise everything via the spawn then that is a delight too

    In short, it can create great stuff indeed, and unusual stuff too

    So, a coffee costs around £4 or a pint of beer, you drink that down in less than ten minutes

    You can keep Kauldron a lot longer than that lol

    It’s just a good app that’s easy to use, light on the cpu in AUM and ridiculously cheap

    @Love3quency . No truer words have been spoken.
    Only I don’t understand the principles of synthesis (getting better slowly) but I was able to achieve some early level of instant gratification.
    Just trial and error. Enough to motivate me further.
    Only I start with a preset and mutilate the crap out of it, engage the hold button and head to the xy pads.
    The mod matrix is a bit of a mystery to me right now but a lot depth here it seems. IAA, AU, AB and Link all right out of the gait and 3.99. A little more than half of what I paid for coffee and a newspaper this morning.

  • @Ben said:
    Then I started an init patch, started tweaking and twisting then hit the arp page... lingered a bit then hit the mod matrix and the xy pads and am hooked.

    If someone understands the principles of synthesis then it will be a joy, or if you like to randomise everything via the spawn then that is a delight too

    In short, it can create great stuff indeed, and unusual stuff too

    So, a coffee costs around £4 or a pint of beer, you drink that down in less than ten minutes

    You can keep Kauldron a lot longer than that lol

    It’s just a good app that’s easy to use, light on the cpu in AUM and ridiculously cheap

    @Love3quency . No truer words have been spoken.
    Only I don’t understand the principles of synthesis (getting better slowly) but I was able to achieve some early level of instant gratification.
    Just trial and error. Enough to motivate me further.
    Only I start with a preset and mutilate the crap out of it, engage the hold button and head to the xy pads.
    The mod matrix is a bit of a mystery to me right now but a lot depth here it seems. IAA, AU, AB and Link all right out of the gait and 3.99. A little more than half of what I paid for coffee and a newspaper this morning.

    That’s how I learnt, trial and error and paying attention to how sounds change when you do so

    No tutorials as yet,but I might look at advanced synthesis ones soon!

    Because we have lots of advanced synths now and it’s good to learn!

  • @dvlmusic said:

    @brice said:
    I wonder if Kaspar presets will open in it…being that they are so……

    I guess I came back to this thread to be a dick? What an asshole. Sorry. It's a very capable synth at an unbelievable price. I guess its existence is just confusing to me. Why they felt the need to pursue building it when they've just finished something that could have potentially just housed that new Spawn thing and updated DSP. Oh well, it literally doesn't matter.And I am still a big fan of those guys at Yonac. ToneStack remains in my opinion to be the greatest all-in-one multi-effects app for drums and synths on this platform.

    See - this is my dilemma as well. I LOVE Yonac and want to support them. Galileo is absolutely masterful. Tonestack has some incredible tones in there. Steel Guitar is a blast and is far more useful than it may initially appear. Hell - I own every app they've released prior to Kauldron, so it's nothing to slander Yonac about. They're also very supportive of the community and our boy Doug, so extra points there.

    I wonder if they'd consider releasing Spawn 2 as it's own AUv3 plug-in, a-la Odessa? It could be a MIDI randomizer with assignable parameters. That would be just lovely....

    I got this and Odessa, random patterns and random sound presets makes for a lot of fun 'discovery'.....I have set Kauldron to use 2 x osc, removed the FX and used it to generate patches that I then programmed on my BS2....of course they don't sound exactly the same on the BS2, but I have gotten a few really cool sounding ones that I wouldn't necessarily have come up with on my own.
    Having this as a MIDI AU, with MIDI in to trigger a spawn would be pretty awesome, it would save me having to press the buttons :)

  • @StudioES said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @StudioES said:
    Hi yall, seems like a bargain!
    What's the CPU hit with 1 instance in your AU hosts? Is it super low like the Brambos synths or high like KASPAR? Thanks!

    Okay quick non scientific test:

    Kauldron - around 4 to 6% at rest. Mid thirties on many presets playing pressing 4 keys at once and changing these.

    Phasemaker - pretty much the same results give or take.

    Thanks Fruitbat! It's very helpful for those of us on the Air 1 or Mini 2.
    And I believe I read earlier you use an Air 2; iOS11. 128 buffer?

    I was running a few odessa modules powering 1 x Ruimaker, 1 x Ruismaker FM, 3 x Kauldron before glitching started on my Mini2,

  • edited November 2017

    @skiphunt said:
    I didn't go for Kaspar.. the sound wasn't really gelling for me. But I do have Magellan that I love (when I remember to use it) ;) And, when I do... I dig it's Spawn feature. How does the sound engine and new Spawn2 feature compare? (Other than being AU)

    Yes, I know "it's only $4" but like most of you... I've got a boatload of synths and apps that rarely see the light of day with all the new goodies that keep coming out. Trying to be more thoughtful with my storage space and purchases these days.

    After having spent yesterday with Kauldron, I feel that it is a stripped down version of Magellan. Maybe it’s just the great FX in Magellan, but I think it sounds better, and with more variety of possible timbres than Kauldron. SPAWN2 gives you the ability to choose what parameters to randomize. I found I still just like to randomize everything and then go dial it in on the synth page. And I really miss the sliders in Magellan that let you choose bass/lead/pad/weird for the Spawn.
    I’m going to stick with it though, and the price was right for a nice AU synth.
    That’s my rulin’.

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