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Political Songs on forum?

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  • Not mentioned so far so I have to mention the music of Nigerian musician Fela Kuti. Nigeria in the 70s generated some on the most amazing music, Ginger Baker went over. Nigeria 70 is an amazing album that you can listen to here.

    Fela Kuti, I was told by a Nigeria Uber driver, actually refused to go into politics, going against his fathers wishes and spread his opinion by music. Fela's popularity was huge and he was listened to. The end result was pretty gruesome but now his message because it was presented in music is harder to edit in the history books. Not impossible though!

  • Whatever the media would have you believe
    Bankers and lawyers are there to deceive
    And what you need today
    Is not to buy
    It’s not to own
    It’s not to lie
    To make your life feel o so much better
    To make it complete
    You don’t need a car with real leather seats
    An iPad of gold
    becoming a star
    Making rap music
    Worshipped from a far
    The man that has more
    As more you must have
    To be rich and successful
    Its all that you crave
    So deep with desire for what really is dust
    Covering your death bed
    Seduced you with lust
    When old age comes knocking
    Your life you defend
    Your flash car has rusted
    You are friends with the grave
    And all that money
    Your soul it won’t save
    Being political by song lol

  • @Richtowns said:
    Not mentioned so far so I have to mention the music of Nigerian musician Fela Kuti. Nigeria in the 70s generated some on the most amazing music, Ginger Baker went over. Nigeria 70 is an amazing album that you can listen to here.

    Fela Kuti, I was told by a Nigeria Uber driver, actually refused to go into politics, going against his fathers wishes and spread his opinion by music. Fela's popularity was huge and he was listened to. The end result was pretty gruesome but now his message because it was presented in music is harder to edit in the history books. Not impossible though!

    Good call on Feta. That is truly political music.
    For most western artists, political songs are too often just an opportunity to trot out Dylan or MC5 fantasties (depending on one's volume preference)

  • edited December 2017

    @JeffChasteen said:
    Good call on Feta.

    Can’t beat a nice bit of cheese. Cheddar for me. :) Sorry, couldn’t resist that one.

    More seriously, Fela Kuti is a great example of using music to express political points. I’d bet more people trusted him than any Nigerian politician.

  • @LucidMusicInc said:

    @u0421793 said:
    It’d be interesting if there were actually some truly political songs, ones which pushed the strategy of running a country in a certain direction (rather than merely complain and whine about the way it is already done).

    For example, songs that fully specify an economic direction, what will happen to health and education spending, military spending, business incentives and resistances, etc. Songs which specify whether to cater for the larger portion of less intelligent people in the population, or instead to focus on the smaller proportion of people with greater leverage with freedom to develop and execute productive ideas. Songs which detail how the infirm and disadvantaged will be helped and supported as a result of this productivity. Songs which lay down policy regarding housing and transport. Songs which specify how much beer and cigarettes shall be penalised. This is not the kind of thing that ends up in a song. All you get is whining and complaining about how bad it is to be downtrodden, and a general moroseness and pity about decisions made at unspecified times in the past, in a kind of { Joni Mitchell / Hudson Ford / Run DMC / The Beat } type of protest song manner. That’s not political, that’s whining (well, it is when Bob Dylan sings).

    A truly political song would lay down policy, not lament it.

    +1

    I think this idea is absolutely nuts but if there is one person that might make your dream come true it would be Yanis Varoufakis.

  • @FreeRadioRevolu said:

    There are no political or critical thinking artist that exist in mainstream music. That’s for good reason (they don’t want you to think). They gave you Dylan in the 60s.... but even Dylan was controlled and although he was a great songwriter (and a lousy yet effective singer) he was a limited hangout and would never dare reveal the true power running our world. He made the deal.

    Here's a song that simultaneously proves and disproves your point. Say what you want about Kanye, but how many platinum artists rap about the CCA?

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:
    Good call on Feta.

    Can’t beat a nice bit of cheese. Cheddar for me. :) Sorry, couldn’t resist that one.

    More seriously, Fela Kuti is a great example of using music to express political points. I’d bet more people trusted him than any Nigerian politician.

    Damn that autocorrect!

  • edited December 2017

    @JeffChasteen said:
    Damn that autocorrect!

    Yeah, messes posts up...a lot.

    Funniest one was Mrs Zen getting an autocorrected text from her grown up daughter, asking if she wanted to go to an Xmas sex party!

    Turned out she meant decs, as in Xmas decorations. Mrs Zen was momentarily disappointed. ;)

  • Minor Threat - Guilty of Being White (1981)

    Lyrics:

    I'm sorry
    For something that I didn't do
    Lynched somebody
    But I don't know who
    You blame me for slavery
    A hundred years before I was born
    Guilty of being white
    I'm sorry
    For something that I didn't do
    Lynched somebody
    But I don't know who
    You blame me for slavery
    A hundred years before I was born
    Guilty of being white
    I'm a convict (Guilty!)
    Of a racist crime (Guilty!)
    I've only served (Guilty!)
    Nineteen years of my time
    I'm sorry
    For something that I didn't do
    Lynched somebody
    But I don't know who
    You blame me for slavery
    A hundred years before I was born
    Guilty of being white

  • "That's how we get Bono" ftw.

  • @syrupcore said:
    "That's how we get Bono" ftw.

    On the other hand, Bono is how "debt forgiveness" becomes a household term. It is true that as he became a political force, his music truly suffered.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:
    Damn that autocorrect!

    >

    Yeah, messes posts up...a lot.

    Funniest one was Mrs Zen getting an autocorrected text from her grown up daughter, asking if she wanted to go to an Xmas sex party!

    Turned out she meant decs, as in Xmas decorations. Mrs Zen was momentarily disappointed. ;)

    Ha ha!

  • @mannix said:
    Minor Threat - Guilty of Being White (1981)

    Gawd bless punk. Never afraid to tell it true. Brings to mind a couple of lyrics...

    “There is no future in England’s drrrrrreaming.”

    “The king is dead, but he’s not forgotten. Is this the story of Johnny Rotten?”

  • edited December 2017

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    It is true that as he became a political force, his music truly suffered.

    >

    Or was it a political farce. :)

    U2 were so much better when they expressed their politics in song. ‘Sunday Bloody Sunday’ and ‘Pride (in the name of love) being fine examples.

  • It's weird how Bono is ridiculed. He's a really intelligent guy who sometimes gets over his skis, as the saying goes. (A NYTimes Magazine profile of Bono as political force grapples addresses this.) And as for the politics in their songs — he, like Michael Stipe, are better as mysterious vessels with Godlike voices than overt spokesmen for anything. (I feel for him, actually, having invested so much in supporting Aung San Suu Kyi — he was a huge part of her canonization.)

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    It's weird how Bono is ridiculed.

    >

    Never more so than by his countrymen. If you have never seen it, may I recommend the comedy movie ‘Killing Bono.’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Bono

  • The best political song, ever

  • edited December 2017

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    It's weird how Bono is ridiculed.

    >

    Never more so than by his countrymen. If you have never seen it, may I recommend the comedy movie ‘Killing Bono.’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Bono

    It's a British Isles thing: no crime greater than rising above your station.
    The American corollary: being a hypocrite.

  • These are some favorite poolitical songs from my childhood




  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    It's a British Isles thing: no crime greater than rising above your station.

    That does happen, but is a bit more subtle. Usually it is when it someone gives the impression that they believe themself to be above the common man. Having wealth and success is not the problem.

    Bono, means well, but gives the impression that he thinks he is some kind of wise statesman. Oblivious to the fact that the politicians are using his status as a rock star for their own agradisement.

  • One of the more controversial singles, featuring a criminal who became a political prisoner.

    https://youtu.be/2Kq7nGi-63Y

  • edited December 2017

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    It's weird how Bono is ridiculed.

    >

    Never more so than by his countrymen. If you have never seen it, may I recommend the comedy movie ‘Killing Bono.’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Bono

    It's a British Isles thing: no crime greater than rising above your station.
    The American corollary: being a hypocrite.

    It’s a tax ‘avoidance’ thing. Holier than thou lectures don’t work when schools and hospitals, for example, aren’t getting tax revenue that the rest of us on substantially lower incomes pay.

    A lot of people aren’t impressed about that.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    It's weird how Bono is ridiculed.

    >

    Never more so than by his countrymen. If you have never seen it, may I recommend the comedy movie ‘Killing Bono.’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Bono

    It's a British Isles thing: no crime greater than rising above your station.
    The American corollary: being a hypocrite.

    It’s a tax ‘avoidance’ thing. Holier than thou lectures don’t work when schools and hospitals, for example, aren’t getting tax revenue that the rest of us on substantially lower incomes pay.

    A lot of people aren’t impressed about that.

    This!

  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    It's weird how Bono is ridiculed.

    >

    Never more so than by his countrymen. If you have never seen it, may I recommend the comedy movie ‘Killing Bono.’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Bono

    It's a British Isles thing: no crime greater than rising above your station.
    The American corollary: being a hypocrite.

    It’s a tax ‘avoidance’ thing. Holier than thou lectures don’t work when schools and hospitals, for example, aren’t getting tax revenue that the rest of us on substantially lower incomes pay.

    A lot of people aren’t impressed about that.

    This!

    I wonder how much he donates (if any) to such causes. I'm cool with bypassing the government and going direct so 80% of it isn't wasted. Pretty sad if he doesn't, and avoids taxes though.

  • @wim said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    It's weird how Bono is ridiculed.

    >

    Never more so than by his countrymen. If you have never seen it, may I recommend the comedy movie ‘Killing Bono.’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Bono

    It's a British Isles thing: no crime greater than rising above your station.
    The American corollary: being a hypocrite.

    It’s a tax ‘avoidance’ thing. Holier than thou lectures don’t work when schools and hospitals, for example, aren’t getting tax revenue that the rest of us on substantially lower incomes pay.

    A lot of people aren’t impressed about that.

    This!

    I wonder how much he donates (if any) to such causes. I'm cool with bypassing the government and going direct so 80% of it isn't wasted. Pretty sad if he doesn't, and avoids taxes though.

    He seems particularly fond of Lithuanian shopping centres at the moment.

  • edited December 2017

    @MonzoPro said:
    He seems particularly fond of Lithuanian shopping centres at the moment.

    Hmmm. I suppose it beats Saachi, collecting ice art made from other people’s piss.

    Is the hair free (h)edge involved in this eastern euro zone chicanery, or just Dave?

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @wim said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    It's weird how Bono is ridiculed.

    >

    Never more so than by his countrymen. If you have never seen it, may I recommend the comedy movie ‘Killing Bono.’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Bono

    It's a British Isles thing: no crime greater than rising above your station.
    The American corollary: being a hypocrite.

    It’s a tax ‘avoidance’ thing. Holier than thou lectures don’t work when schools and hospitals, for example, aren’t getting tax revenue that the rest of us on substantially lower incomes pay.

    A lot of people aren’t impressed about that.

    This!

    I wonder how much he donates (if any) to such causes. I'm cool with bypassing the government and going direct so 80% of it isn't wasted. Pretty sad if he doesn't, and avoids taxes though.

    He seems particularly fond of Lithuanian shopping centres at the moment.

    Ha ha!

  • I didn‘t read the entire thread, which is somehow necessary to join a discussion. I just wanted to add my point of view.

    Musical expression may include some political or religious statements, but the discussion in a forum should always be kept in a neutral way.

  • @Phil999 said:
    Musical expression may include some political or religious statements, but the discussion in a forum should always be kept in a neutral way.

    >

    Yep, that is the plan. :)

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @Phil999 said:
    Musical expression may include some political or religious statements, but the discussion in a forum should always be kept in a neutral way.

    >

    Yep, that is the plan. :)

    Great plan!

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