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Goodie, I've tried to Google on it a bit and the issues seem to range from sample-rate and bit-depth miss-matches, wrong software versions (Akai samplers) and some issues with desktop Cubase with wrong version of rex-libraries installed etc. etc.
I do not own the latest version of Desktop Renoise but if they play properly there with Octo Rex it's definitely a bug in the Stockholm Gadget...
The unifying factor with all the Rex files that don’t work seems to be that the very first slice (if played on its own) is silent. And then, as you say, playing with the pads set to play the loop does nothing. It’s a bit odd.
I haven’t tried importing the same Rex file into Dr Octo in Reason and tried there.
Indeed, this is what the 'Think 3' loop looks like in Stockholm.
The 'Loop' (Which does not play when tapped on).
The 'Slices' (Notice Slice 1, It's short but plays when tapped on).
When copying to pattern Slice 1 is missing.
If it works in Dr Octo then it's a bug in Stockholm Gadget.
Using the 'waveform view' to play the loop also works but Slice 1 is 'missing' there?
(ie. no visible marker but since it's impossible to zoom the wave-view I can't check if it's really there or not, editing small slices without a zoom is also a bit of a pita).
What worries me is that people have bought loops and they also exhibit these issues...
What do you mean by editing? You can’t change the marker points in Stockholm. Or do you just mean editing the parameters like ‘alt’, ‘pan’ etc for each slice?
I’ll do some investigation in Dr Octo with these ‘not working’ loops when I can.
Yepp, I meant changing pitch, pan, filter, alt etc. per slice.
For loops with 'many' slices selecting a slice can be tricky since 99 slices per loop is supported.
Thankfully I don't have any such loops.
Thanks, no need to rush
I assume slice 1 is there at ‘waveform view’ but to small to see. So it looks like there are 16 slices. But in PERF slice 17 is the last part of the loop.
Seems like some ‘pre slice’ bug in the Rex file?
After the NanoKey now Apple Pencil becomes a necessity
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 Yeah, let us know after you’ve checked in Reason.
Reading this thread...
There should be a way to preview files before importing. They should obviously add files integration. And if I could import folders it would be much appreciated for all those Rex loops I have on the Mac.
As I wrote some feet above... you can actually preview them on the mac and only load the ones you like.
Just go to reason and hit in the file browser thing space there you go, preview....
Drag and drop in iTunes or some other software. I just dumped 500 megs of Rex loops in that way, as far as previewing goes you can draw a loop in and just play different samples from the list.
Some loops don’t play if the original tempo is out of range. For instance 90 bpm loops won’t play at 120 bpm. Stockholm is also buggy, sticky buttons and program crashes.
When loading REX-Files the preview has issues correctly playing REX-Files with sample-rates other than 44.1K.
96K loops for example play half-speed pitched down but play properly once imported.
As for sticky buttons I've noticed that when going from rex-view to the perf-view and going from keys to pads, both stay lit and need to press keys and then pads again to enable pads.
I do feel we'll see an update quite soon...
Nothing much to add to the discussion except that Stockholm is loads of fun. As Doug mentioned in his video, it can easily get out of hand so must train myself to be judicious in using it but, heck, it's a real time melter.
Glad that greater minds than I are digging deep into it and finding the bugs and areas for improvement. Thanks to you.
Try using xeqeuncer with gadget and use the polyhymia tool. Great results with most instruments. Especially Dr Oct!
OK, so i've tested those 'not working' loops in Reason. They seem to work fine in Dr Octo in Reason. And actually i've discovered that opening up one of those 'not working' rex files in Reason, then opening up it's slices in the audio editing view, bouncing to a Rex file and then exporting as a rex file... cures it. The newly exported rex file from Reason works just fine when put back into Stockholm.
Plus, as you say, the faulty ones do seem to have a mysterious 'slice number 1' that is absolutely tiny. So I suspect it's something weird with how they've been made, which Reason can handle but Stockholm can't.
But as I say, the fix is to open the faulty rex file in reason and then re-export it out again.
By the way, anyone know what 'follow loop playback' button in the first 'Rex' panel in Stockholm actually does???
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 Thanks for checking with Reason.
‘Follow loop playback’ changes the waveform view to whatever loop is triggered by the sequencer (and midi?)
So if you want to edit a specific loop while your track is playing multiple you can turn this off.
New Gadet update is out with some fixes to Stockholm.
The ’broken’ rex files still do not work and the sticky keys pads button graphics is still not cured.
What happens now is that at least the ’broken’ slice 1’s make a click instead of being ’silent’ so I do feel that in due time both these ’bugs’ will get fixed.
Preview in the file-selector still plays non 44.1k rex files at wrong speed/pitch.
On the positive side if the Stockholm gad had a ’crash bug’ I’ve not been experiencing it even after trying to make it bail
It crashes using the alternating function, to be fair on longer loops. Properly trimmed 2 bar loops don’t pose a big crash threat.
After the latest update too?
Haven’t updated
A bug/glitch in 3.6 version of Gadget. The Cho/Flg effect inside gadgets creates a click sound on the right side when used on low frequency sounds (kicks, bass, etc).
Doesn’t occur in previous 3.5.4
Who beta tests their apps... Stevie Wonder?
Stevie’s Wonder Men:
He would notice that clicking sounds in the Chorus/flanger immediately
I did inquire about beta testing recently. I was told they don’t have open beta testing.
Same here. Have to turn off the flanger. Thought it was just me lol
Confirmed by Korg app team, they will fix it with next update.
Just out of curiosity, how did they reply?
Anyways I'm happy it's getting fixed
@Samu Through their bug report form/thread. Remember, the one about the cpu/battery issue I have open since April ‘17?
I’m trying to formulate it so that it still makes sense after google translate, Eng>Japanese
Do the mails have 'case numbers' meaning you can keep 'triggering' those case-numbers with a reply instead of creating a new case. (I know Zendesk adds 'case numbers' to each mail making it easier for developers to keep track of the cases).
I may formulate one for Files.app support and my suggested improvements.(ie. cleaner file-structure with session, wav, rex and other folders including sub-folders with 'pull down to refresh' as well as access to sounds from the other 'Gadgets' using simple path-buttons (ie. to be able to access samples across Gadgets, Amsterdam and Receife samples in Vancouver, Bilbao & AbuDhabi for starters). Think of this as Factory, 'Gadget' & User tabs in the file-selector in Bilbao or Vancouver.
And on top of my list would be 'curves' / 'smooth mode' for automation, the current 'stepped mode' is well 'stepped'.
(Ie. just set start point and end-point and Gadget could interpolate the values for super smooth automation).
The above is nothing 'new' and should be on the to-do list already
@Samu I just bookmarked the thread. You can add messages, as long as your logged in.