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Korg Gadget: Stockholm by Reason

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  • kinkujinkinkujin

    Ok, so I cannot figure out how to purchase this. Not showing up in the drop down for purchases (in Gadget). btw - I did the update. Thanks for any help.

  • david_2017david_2017

    Add a new gadget. All will be displayed and there you will see also every gadget you haven’t purchased - shiny new waiting for your money
    @kinkujin

  • kinkujinkinkujin

    Aha! Thanks David_2017!

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    @david_2017 said:
    Add a new gadget. All will be displayed and there you will see also every gadget you haven’t purchased - shiny new waiting for your money
    @kinkujin

    @kinkujin said:
    Aha! Thanks David_2017!

    Sums up the value of this upgrade.......

    LOL

  • R_2R_2

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I would REALLY really like to see a league table of the IAPs bought by volume for Gadget....

    Appstore shows the IAPs with most sold at the top (not sure if this is all time or reset every now and then).
    Here’s the list in my country:

    and for Module:

  • david_2017david_2017

    And again, if gadget would have a future (yes I am talking as a AUv3 fanboy :)) I would gladly drown my earnings

  • RajahPRajahP

    @R_2 said:
    Check the description on YouTube, including a link to his free rex files

    Thanks...

    Shoot, I want this to use on my Blocs Waves sample/s... Imagine the variation/s one can accomplish with just one Blocs sample...
    Do need some type of 'convert to REX' on ios. Going to the desktop to convert a sample is a creativity killer.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @RajahP said:

    @R_2 said:
    Check the description on YouTube, including a link to his free rex files

    Thanks...

    Shoot, I want this to use on my Blocs Waves sample/s... Imagine the variation/s one can accomplish with just one Blocs sample...
    Do need some type of 'convert to REX' on ios. Going to the desktop to convert a sample is a creativity killer.

    Absolutely. Killer little utility opportunity for them right here...

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited July 2018

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @RajahP said:

    @R_2 said:
    Check the description on YouTube, including a link to his free rex files

    Thanks...

    Shoot, I want this to use on my Blocs Waves sample/s... Imagine the variation/s one can accomplish with just one Blocs sample...
    Do need some type of 'convert to REX' on ios. Going to the desktop to convert a sample is a creativity killer.

    Absolutely. Killer little utility opportunity for them right here...

    Pulled up Dr. Rex Reason 10 Lite on my desktop... It doesn't seem to have the 'fluidity' as seen in this video, not as 'interactive' as on iOs...

    Edit... Looks like one cannot 'export' those REX files from Reason.

  • LucidMusicIncLucidMusicInc
    edited July 2018

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    After some web investigation it looks like the Rex format is proprietary and the ONLY way to create your own Rex files is to buy Recycle for $99 or Reason for who knows how much.

    I think that’s an important consideration for anyone deciding to purchase Stockholm or not.

    If I’m wrong on the above - I’d love someone to correct me!

    I own Gadget on a Mac so I’ve had a play. And I went and bought an £8 pack on Loopmasters with 100 or so Rex files to try out.

    My bottom line on this is:

    • it’s quite specialist. You could do almost as much with Abu Dhabi unless you are really, really into this kind of sample chopping kind of music / workflow. In which case it might offer something more.

    • if you have reason / recycle or loads of great Rex files it probably worth £10 if you’re a Gadget user

    I found that you can import Rex files one by one. But also if you have a Mac with an iCloud folder that Gadget uses (I do) then you can batch drop all your Rex files in there. However there’s still no way of previewing before you load into Stockholm.

    The ‘synth’ part of Stockholm is quite interesting. You can assign an LFO (inc 2 random waveforms) to either osc (sample) pitch, filter cutoff or pan. You can also automate almost all the functions in the synth screen. And you have some flexibly over what the mod wheel and velocity effects (eg the filter, env ammount etc).

    So... if you hooked up to a midi controller carefully. Or you did a few passes in Gadget modulating different things, you could end up with a pretty unique sounding ‘beat’ fairly quickly. With the right source material loaded in (see above) that would be pretty cool.

    I guess think Blockswave, Sector, Reslice or that Sugarbytes one with the robot on (I forget its name). If you like those, you’ll like this!

    I just wish I could create my own Rex files. But I don’t think I’m willing to spend another £100 on that privilege!

    If anyone knows how I could get Reason Lite to create Rex files then please let me know because I reckon I must have a licience for this with various Korg midi controller purchases I’ve made in the past (eg Nanokeystudio) if I can find the box!

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    I think Korg is teetering on a precarious precipous for iOS music making.

    1 direction, and they can virtually dominate if several steps are taken. True Audio edit, Grid launch, AU fx, etc.

    The other direction, they come off as corporate pigs looking to consolidate Reason customer rolls and purely put numbers on the board(sales).

    Judging by the ill fated launch for this, they need to slow their roll and potentially tell users the direction or start getting and listening to feedback.

    Korg with Gadget and iOS seems to subscribe to the we know best for your needs adage.

    Which is starting to rub me the wrong way no matter how much I like Gadget.

    I mean, I don't think I ever saw a rep post anything on this forum about the product.

    What happened to the one developer who left Korg, where did he go? (company?)

    We shall see.

    Even as an admitted Korg fanboy, I've got to say, the presets they give us with their sampler apps defy the definition of anything close to musical. Going off the stock presets alone, had I paid full price I would definitely feel that I paid too much. So does Korg know best? With their presets, I have serious second thoughts. Then there's their demo songs. Like what demographic besides some old Japanese game developers are they trying to appeal to? :D

    I'm warming up to the presets. Just like in Vancouver, the presets on offer are in fact rubbish but the audio files underlying them actually don't have anything wrong with them. Just like with Vancouver you get around 50-60 wavs, most of which are very good and there's an unfortunate inclusuion of annoying electro and mumble trap thrown in there too. The same applies with Stockholm. There are at least 30 decent old school drum breaks in there that are fantastic but the enjoyment is offset by horrific clown music at the end. Maybe the Korg developers are trying to tell us something, hidden messages backmasked in the presets? I'm referring to Dither, Glo, and Brunch.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @RajahP said:

    @R_2 said:
    Check the description on YouTube, including a link to his free rex files

    Thanks...

    Shoot, I want this to use on my Blocs Waves sample/s... Imagine the variation/s one can accomplish with just one Blocs sample...
    Do need some type of 'convert to REX' on ios. Going to the desktop to convert a sample is a creativity killer.

    Absolutely. Killer little utility opportunity for them right here...

    Yes this would be pretty neat, and would make Stockholm more attractive, but such a utility only exists from Propellerheads, either reason or recycle.
    If iRecycle isn’t on the cards it would be a real missed opportunity, if it does happen I wouldn’t expect it to be less than the £80 it costs on desktop, unless it is severely crippled in some way.

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @RajahP said:

    @R_2 said:
    Check the description on YouTube, including a link to his free rex files

    Thanks...

    Shoot, I want this to use on my Blocs Waves sample/s... Imagine the variation/s one can accomplish with just one Blocs sample...
    Do need some type of 'convert to REX' on ios. Going to the desktop to convert a sample is a creativity killer.

    Absolutely. Killer little utility opportunity for them right here...

    Yes this would be pretty neat, and would make Stockholm more attractive, but such a utility only exists from Propellerheads, either reason or recycle.
    If iRecycle isn’t on the cards it would be a real missed opportunity, if it does happen I wouldn’t expect it to be less than the £80 it costs on desktop, unless it is severely crippled in some way.

    Andy
    Did you ever do the Reason free demo?

    Can you do it and get all the Rex files from it for us?

    LOL

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @RUST( i )K said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @RajahP said:

    @R_2 said:
    Check the description on YouTube, including a link to his free rex files

    Thanks...

    Shoot, I want this to use on my Blocs Waves sample/s... Imagine the variation/s one can accomplish with just one Blocs sample...
    Do need some type of 'convert to REX' on ios. Going to the desktop to convert a sample is a creativity killer.

    Absolutely. Killer little utility opportunity for them right here...

    Yes this would be pretty neat, and would make Stockholm more attractive, but such a utility only exists from Propellerheads, either reason or recycle.
    If iRecycle isn’t on the cards it would be a real missed opportunity, if it does happen I wouldn’t expect it to be less than the £80 it costs on desktop, unless it is severely crippled in some way.

    Andy
    Did you ever do the Reason free demo?

    Can you do it and get all the Rex files from it for us?

    LOL

    I can’t remember if I did or not, pretty sure you won’t be able to get Rex files out of it though. :(

  • RajahPRajahP

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @RajahP said:

    @R_2 said:
    Check the description on YouTube, including a link to his free rex files

    Thanks...

    Shoot, I want this to use on my Blocs Waves sample/s... Imagine the variation/s one can accomplish with just one Blocs sample...
    Do need some type of 'convert to REX' on ios. Going to the desktop to convert a sample is a creativity killer.

    Absolutely. Killer little utility opportunity for them right here...

    Yes this would be pretty neat, and would make Stockholm more attractive, but such a utility only exists from Propellerheads, either reason or recycle.
    If iRecycle isn’t on the cards it would be a real missed opportunity, if it does happen I wouldn’t expect it to be less than the £80 it costs on desktop, unless it is severely crippled in some way.

    I’m more looking at it for melodies... I think Patterning 2 will be able to do anything one can imagine in drums ....and more. I guess I may have to approach it somewhat like Blocs Wave.. buy sample packs, etc.. There are some amazing producers out there who can churn out great REX samples... and it does have Ableton Link...

    Think I will take the plung...

  • MAtrixplanMAtrixplan

    @MdM said:

    @MAtrixplan said:

    @Janosax said:

    @MAtrixplan said:
    anyone knows how to find .drex files on my pc? I can't find them :confused:

    You will need an unofficial software called Refill Unpacker.

    So if I have Reason with Octo Rex Player, I can't use sounds from it?

    Important to clarify. Right now you cannot play files that work with the octo rex player. The octo rex player is *.Drex files - which you cannot import into Stockholm. You can only import *.Rx2 files which were from the rex player in reason 1-4. Rx2 can only be imported by clicking on the name of the loop under the 8 buttons. Again if people want to import wav files, recycle is your best bet since once you slice the wav up, you can save as *.Rx2 format and then import. In later versions of reason you can make Drex files and hopefully they update gadget so that you can make use of that functionality. If you have reason 1-4 then you can probably use those providing the files *Rx2.
    As mentioned some people use the refill unpacker but technically you don't even need to. If you have reason with a rex device that supports *.rx2 - just save patches to dropbox and import.

    So could someone with Reason 1-4 export it and upload it ?Or could I find somewhere nice rx2 collection of files?

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton
    edited July 2018

    @RajahP said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @RajahP said:

    @R_2 said:
    Check the description on YouTube, including a link to his free rex files

    Thanks...

    Shoot, I want this to use on my Blocs Waves sample/s... Imagine the variation/s one can accomplish with just one Blocs sample...
    Do need some type of 'convert to REX' on ios. Going to the desktop to convert a sample is a creativity killer.

    Absolutely. Killer little utility opportunity for them right here...

    Yes this would be pretty neat, and would make Stockholm more attractive, but such a utility only exists from Propellerheads, either reason or recycle.
    If iRecycle isn’t on the cards it would be a real missed opportunity, if it does happen I wouldn’t expect it to be less than the £80 it costs on desktop, unless it is severely crippled in some way.

    I’m more looking at it for melodies... I think Patterning 2 will be able to do anything one can imagine in drums ....and more. I guess I may have to approach it somewhat like Blocs Wave.. buy sample packs, etc.. There are some amazing producers out there who can churn out great REX samples... and it does have Ableton Link...

    Think I will take the plung...

    I think melodies will be limited....you will need a Rex file with one of each note in them and mapped to the correct keyboard notes and I don’t think it has Loop points for sustained notes.
    Other than that you would have to mess with the pitch of each step to get it right.

    Yes you will get more mileage from it if you are purchasing packs

  • R_2R_2

    @AndyPlankton said:
    I think melodies will be limited....you will need a Rex file with one of each note in them and mapped to the correct keyboard notes and I don’t think it has Loop points for sustained notes.
    Other than that you would have to mess with the pitch of each step to get it right.

    On the other hand. It’s fun to take a melodic loop and play random parts of it.
    I find this an inspiring change to composing with a normal chromatic keyboard on which I often end up with a similar style.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @R_2 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    I think melodies will be limited....you will need a Rex file with one of each note in them and mapped to the correct keyboard notes and I don’t think it has Loop points for sustained notes.
    Other than that you would have to mess with the pitch of each step to get it right.

    On the other hand. It’s fun to take a melodic loop and play random parts of it.
    I find this an inspiring change to composing with a normal chromatic keyboard on which I often end up with a similar style.

    Once again ReSlice...

  • R_2R_2

    @Dubbylabby said:

    @R_2 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    I think melodies will be limited....you will need a Rex file with one of each note in them and mapped to the correct keyboard notes and I don’t think it has Loop points for sustained notes.
    Other than that you would have to mess with the pitch of each step to get it right.

    On the other hand. It’s fun to take a melodic loop and play random parts of it.
    I find this an inspiring change to composing with a normal chromatic keyboard on which I often end up with a similar style.

    Once again ReSlice...

    ReSlice is cool, but i enjoy working in Gadget with its automation, etc.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @R_2 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    I think melodies will be limited....you will need a Rex file with one of each note in them and mapped to the correct keyboard notes and I don’t think it has Loop points for sustained notes.
    Other than that you would have to mess with the pitch of each step to get it right.

    On the other hand. It’s fun to take a melodic loop and play random parts of it.
    I find this an inspiring change to composing with a normal chromatic keyboard on which I often end up with a similar style.

    This is true, but you can do that already with Abu Dhabi which lets you use any loops you create without the need for Rex files.

  • WillWill

    Sorry if this was already answered but can you move the slice points or is it fixed from the REX file?

    Can Stockholm be used to REXify a regular audio file?

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @syrupcore said:
    Sorry if this was already answered but can you move the slice points or is it fixed from the REX file?

    Can Stockholm be used to REXify a regular audio file?

    Not sure about moving slice points, but definitely no to rexifying

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @syrupcore said:
    Sorry if this was already answered but can you move the slice points or is it fixed from the REX file?

    Nope

    Can Stockholm be used to REXify a regular audio file?

    Nope

  • WillWill

    Cheers @AndyPlankton and @Matt_Fletcher_2000

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    On the plus side - I can now create my own Rex files from wavs using Reason 10 Lite (free with some recent Korg controller hardware).

    1. Load in an audio file to Reason (make sure the Reason project is at the same tempo as the audio file before you load it in)
    2. Double click the audio file to be able to edit/preview its slices
    3. When happy, right click and choose bounce to Rex2 format
    4. Find the resulting file in the reason browser under 'self contained samples')
    5. Right click and choose export audio
    6. Save the .rx2 file to you desktop
    7. Import this into Gadget

    Pretty easy

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    On the plus side - I can now create my own Rex files from wavs using Reason 10 Lite (free with some recent Korg controller hardware).

    1. Load in an audio file to Reason (make sure the Reason project is at the same tempo as the audio file before you load it in)
    2. Double click the audio file to be able to edit/preview its slices
    3. When happy, right click and choose bounce to Rex2 format
    4. Find the resulting file in the reason browser under 'self contained samples')
    5. Right click and choose export audio
    6. Save the .rx2 file to you desktop
    7. Import this into Gadget

    Pretty easy

    Cheers Matt, seems the only ‘free’ route so far. :)

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    Right. Now I need to find someone with 2 Korg devices so I can blag a Reason Lite licence off them... 😘

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @R_2 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    I think melodies will be limited....you will need a Rex file with one of each note in them and mapped to the correct keyboard notes and I don’t think it has Loop points for sustained notes.
    Other than that you would have to mess with the pitch of each step to get it right.

    On the other hand. It’s fun to take a melodic loop and play random parts of it.
    I find this an inspiring change to composing with a normal chromatic keyboard on which I often end up with a similar style.

    This is true, but you can do that already with Abu Dhabi which lets you use any loops you create without the need for Rex files.

    Not only answering you plus all of these people asking for AUv3, repitching/stretching and editable slice points lol

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000
    edited July 2018

    @gusgranite said:
    Right. Now I need to find someone with 2 Korg devices so I can blag a Reason Lite licence off them... 😘

    Good luck!

    Seems like if Stockholm is meant as a gateway drug for Reason, it’s working on some of us :)

  • ReidReid
    edited July 2018

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @gusgranite said:
    Right. Now I need to find someone with 2 Korg devices so I can blag a Reason Lite licence off them... 😘

    Good luck!

    Seems like if Stockholm is meant as a gateway drug for Reason, it’s working on some of us :)

    Yes. It may be that Props doesn't intend to port Reason to iOS, but to put some Reason instruments on iOS to generate interest in the desktop version.

    Rex files aren't samples, they are loops, similar to Acid loops. I haven't used Reason in a while, but it came with a ton of Rex files, which you could then use as raw material for your Dr. Rex, and later Octorex players. Back in the day, you couldn't even make a Rex file in Reason. If you wanted to do that you needed to buy Recycle.

    Rex files are commonly included with loop downloads from companies like Loopmasters, etc. If you have ever bought wav or aiff files you may have downloaded rex files at the same time. If you deleted them you might be able to go back and download them again.

    Reason was one of the original closed systems and still is, although they have opened the door a tiny crack by letting VSTs into their closed room. Unlike Gadget for Mac, none of the Reason instruments can be used as plugins in any other desktop programs.

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