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I’ve never heard the FabFilters in action- though I have heard many of you enthuse about it. I am interested to see it become available. Just wondering how people who have used it would describe the relatively expensive price estimates in today’s market. Worth it? Worth even more?
I must admit in seeing the potential cost has caused my engine to leak a little steam. But I am still intrigued. I have WOW, Filtatron, Turnado, Frekvens, DubFilter.... and most of the rest of the usual suspects including ElasticFX, DFX, FluxFX etc etc. Is there still value there for me at these prices? I would happily pay it if it were to bring something interesting that I couldn’t already achieve.
Which of them is the the best at mangling your sound into something unrecognisable but decent? I like apps that can disguise my lack of musical talent
As per their Facebook .. auv3 would be a a separate platform .. so you will have to buy them separately and rates for both will be the same and that they would support both platforms
As fabfilter mentioned they have no user info when plugins were purchased in auria ... so I don’t forsee a discount
Also as per fab filter it will take a ‘while’ before they port all Plugins . I don’t know how long ‘ while’ is
Most of them are nothing like WOW, Turnado etc... they are mostly bread-and-butter mixing plugins: EQ, Compression, Reverb etc.... The exceptions being Volcano (which is a crazy filter plugin), Timeless (delay) and Saturn (Distortion).
But really these aren't mangling plugins for the most part, apart from Volcano which can be really out there. They are for polishing a mix.
heeeeeeelllll yeah
On a side note, I appreciate the way FabFilter is handling the human nature of us Auria Fab Filter users on Facebook asking the inevitable "Do I have to re-buy the AUv3 versions?" queries:
"We will also keep supporting the Auria plugins! You can simply keep using them."
"Auria users can keep using the existing Auria versions of our plugins. To be able to use them in other hosts, you would need to purchase the AUv3 version. Unfortunately in the iOS world, developers don’t get customer info, so we simply technically can’t offer upgrade or cross grade paths 😕 Fortunately... the price point on iOS is fairly low of course. AUv3 prices will be equal to Auria in-app prices."
I appreciate FF putting the info out there, no bullshit or skirting the issue. Because the main thing is they are a business, and although I admit I blanched a bit at first at the thought of rebuying the staple FF plugs for AUv3 use, the iOS music production community needs pro level companies to be involved so the platform's capabilities can be increased.
Joy!
They are still way cheap considering the plugs on computer. I will be getting some of these. The only thing better would be Izotope entering the arena.
Hopefully long enough for me to accrue roughly $250 worth of iTunes card, no?
HEY, it may be a little bit of a drag to buy 'em all over again, but it'll be worth it 100%. I'll still master my tracks in Auria, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't prefer to bounce Gadget stems and perform the mixdown in AUM.
So What do Timeless and Saturn do that the best of the other iOS delays and distortions cant manage or don’t do?
Well, looks like I'm waiting for a sale or a windfall... I only own ProQ2 and it is a spectacular EQ. I could see myself going for ProR2 possibly down the road, but I dunno...
Not crushing anyone's excitement here - lamenting my own empty wallet.
As soon as you get into the easy-as-pie drag-and drop modulation, a lot. Saturn can serve as a simple saturator, tape simulator, masterer/compressor, mangler, guitar amp, and more. And Timeless 2 is hands-down the best delay effect ever made, software or hardware.
The amount they can do just blows everything else out of the water on iOS, as well as 95% of the stuff on desktop.
Check out the videos:
https://www.fabfilter.com/video/
Aha- thanks for that both of you. The answer does indeed seem to be ‘a lot’. They sound and look superb. It simply comes down now to what can be afforded. Cheers.
Later, when all of the FF plugins are ported to AU, FabFilter probabbly will offer bundles for buying several plugins as on the PC platform.
In Auria we kind of have all the plugins of the FX bundle which on PC cost 760€ for 1450€ worth of plugins, so approx half price. (Currently FF even reduced the bundle price to 570€)
I don‘t know if the pricing of IOS bundles can be adjusted, since they are calculated ‚differently‘ depending on the price you already payed.
As I mentioned before, I'll likely grab a couple of them as AU... most likely on sale.
But, for those of us who already have Auria Pro and a few FF plugins... but like to use AUM, AB3, and/or apeMatrix, etc. routing through Auria to use the fab filters, or using the Twin 2 stuff as instrument loads in other hosts.. is really pretty easy and effective. I messed around with this again earlier today and I can't see a compelling reason to replace what I already have with AU versions.
I can see a benefit to being able to use FF on my phone, but the reality is... I really don't use my phone for much audio stuff... just screwing around if the iPad isn't handy. And, I can't imagine trying to navigate a FF interface on an iPhone SE sized screen either.
If you don't already have Auria Pro, and aren't interested in it, then yeah... I can see the huge appeal. But for those who actually use and like Auria Pro quite a bit, I don't see the huge need to replace the FF plugins you already have.
I’ll chime in; I have Pro R2 and I’ve never really got as good as sound ol with it that I’ve been able to get with EOS2. Again this is for sure due to my lack of knowledge or expertise but EOS2 is one magestic AU reverb IMHO.
First one is out on Monday they are saying on FB! I think it is Pro-Q 2.
https://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-q-2-equalizer-plug-in
Oh snap! If I was going to replace one of the 4 that I already have.. with an AU version, it'd likely be that one. I've only got zmorsEQ and the Directional one. Never quite took to the zmors one, and the Directional one is kinda niche.
Hope they have a good launch sale.
Yes, it looks like Pro-Q2 Monday, from the FB comments from FabFilter! It’s £28.99 in the Auria Store ATM. I suppose it’s put-your money-where-your-mouth-is time. I will, at the very least, wait for Doug's link before buying.
Happy days
Whoever it was must have had a time machine.
My thoughts, exactly.
This is a win for everyone.
Melodyne......
Ladies, nonbinaries, and gents...THIS is the true game-changer coming. First AU with a spectral analyser as well as the first truly professional EQ. As @Richtowns said, it's "money where your mouth is" time. As I said above, it's a drag to repurchase it, but as I said last year, I'd rather pay another $40 to have Pro-Q2 as an AU any day over paying a f***ing subscription price for a simple plugin. I'll have to wait until after my gig on Wednesday to nab my $50 iTunes card, and trust me when I say that wait won't be easy.
I wonder if FabFilter is doing this in anticipation of a DAW greater than Auria coming to the platform soon...
You’ve been here probably as long as I have @richardyot so I hope you don’t take offense to what I’m about to say, but I have to disagree with you on this. I’ve tinkered with more than a few VSTs along the long and winding road that has been my musical life. I can assure you from personal experience that you will not find a cleaner compressor than Pro C for the money out there. Pro C isn’t so much a compressor as an instrument for what I do (mostly live recording). I will admit that my genre falls well outside of the typical group in the threads here, and I’m ok with that. I’m old and probably in the way more than anything. But from my own personal experience, and yes, those other ff plugs are absolutely revolutionary, pro Q and pro C changed my world. I’d pay for them another five times without blinking an eye knowing what I know now. Ok, stepping off of my soapbox now, somebody give me a hand down. I need a nap.
I guess the version 2 releases are safe bets in that a new version isn’t around the corner. I wonder if they are planning on upgrading all of their plugins to version 2?
Funny, I actually automatically assumed they’d be porting the V1 plugs just because of Moore’s law and all.
I think you misread my post
I was simply saying that for the most part they aren't "glitch" type plugins, but plugins for polishing a mix. I use PRo-C on every mix I make and I agree with your assessment of it.
I expect they are planning on porting the v1 if that is the current version. I’m just wondering which apps are next in line for the V2 upgrade. Just thinking aloud really
iOS DAW-makers seem pretty maxed-out already. Auria Pro is one guy just trying to get and keep the app running well. I think Cubasis is a relatively small operation, and features appear regularly but slowly. I don’t know NanoStudio, but I hear a lot of talk… Do enough iOS users want to pay for much deeper features? And how many FabFilter AUs will people buy at full price? I guess it remains to be seen.
What would the pressure be for DAW makers? I’m not following the line of reasoning.