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FabFilter AUv3 On The Way

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  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited July 2018

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Carnbot said:
    They confirmed same prices as Auria and no crossgrade possibilty.

    Woah. OK, now someone quickly make a host worthy of them. ;). (Ps no coffee yet, so bitch mode is engaged)

    I would personally use them most with AUM, apeMatrix and Audiobus, worthy hosts for live performance recording with these plugins.

    Yes.

    Not the kind of host I am looking for though. That territory is well seeded. I am more of a photoshopping hipster and less of a Bob Ross.

    I love Hugh Jackman.

    Everyone’s an artist these days lol
    Have you seen this video? I cringe what he does at the end....Rembrandt being one of my art heroes

    Hehe, yah, I have seen it, classic. I love how popular Bob Ross shirts are on kids these days too. Not sure exactly what the source of the popularity is these days, guess he is a respected meme? Gotta love the guy. I tend to like the old masters and the ‘newer’ floor drip painting goof balls equally. My favorite falls somewhat in the middle with the trippy west coast US art being done that is clearly abstract and stream of conciousness but demonstrates dedicated craftsmanship. Like wannabe architects on acid heh.

    This is making the rounds again. Heard a story on the news that Rembrandt took small amounts of LSD.......don’t know who his dealer was but I think it’s bullshite like most news :)

    Whoever it was must have had a time machine.

    it's known since medieval times, like that deadly rave from 1518 ;)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_plague_of_1518

  • tomato_juicetomato_juice

    @Telefunky said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Carnbot said:
    They confirmed same prices as Auria and no crossgrade possibilty.

    Woah. OK, now someone quickly make a host worthy of them. ;). (Ps no coffee yet, so bitch mode is engaged)

    I would personally use them most with AUM, apeMatrix and Audiobus, worthy hosts for live performance recording with these plugins.

    Yes.

    Not the kind of host I am looking for though. That territory is well seeded. I am more of a photoshopping hipster and less of a Bob Ross.

    I love Hugh Jackman.

    Everyone’s an artist these days lol
    Have you seen this video? I cringe what he does at the end....Rembrandt being one of my art heroes

    Hehe, yah, I have seen it, classic. I love how popular Bob Ross shirts are on kids these days too. Not sure exactly what the source of the popularity is these days, guess he is a respected meme? Gotta love the guy. I tend to like the old masters and the ‘newer’ floor drip painting goof balls equally. My favorite falls somewhat in the middle with the trippy west coast US art being done that is clearly abstract and stream of conciousness but demonstrates dedicated craftsmanship. Like wannabe architects on acid heh.

    This is making the rounds again. Heard a story on the news that Rembrandt took small amounts of LSD.......don’t know who his dealer was but I think it’s bullshite like most news :)

    Whoever it was must have had a time machine.

    it's known since medieval times, like that deadly rave from 1518 ;)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_plague_of_1518

    Amazing.

  • stemshadestemshade

    I’m fine with keeping all of that in house (the auria house that is) but this is great news for ios ‘s future.

  • e121e121

    So these are going to be the same price as the ones in Auria? The ones in Auria aren't exactly cheap. Kind of a buzzkill.

  • cabocabo
    edited July 2018

    not exactly cheap but exceptionally good

    I think I'll keep it as is, use them in Auria when needed and won't buy the new versions (but never say never), mainly working on desktop these days anyway

  • AppleHorizonAppleHorizon
    edited July 2018

    @lovadamusic said:
    iOS DAW-makers seem pretty maxed-out already. Auria Pro is one guy just trying to get and keep the app running well. I think Cubasis is a relatively small operation, and features appear regularly but slowly. I don’t know NanoStudio, but I hear a lot of talk… Do enough iOS users want to pay for much deeper features? And how many FabFilter AUs will people buy at full price? I guess it remains to be seen.

    What would the pressure be for DAW makers? I’m not following the line of reasoning.

    $$$ mainly. Having something of the stature of FabFilter as an iOS AU will entice desktop users to replicate their setups for mobile to do as much work as they can outside their desktop studio, which they'll return to when they need the more powerful cpu and ram on offer.

    There will also be a push for cross compatibility in AUs so that a project can move from iOS to Desktop without issues if you also own the desktop AU, with full automation.

    iOS has gotten by with some boutique DAWs up to this point, but desktop users buying into iOS AUs, especially if Pro-L 2 comes sooner than later, are going to want at least the limited intro level versions of their favorite desktop DAWs on offer for cross-compatibility, looking for a few steps up in UI and UX from the current iOS DAWs.

    So, I am basically saying that the individual boutique devs are going to have intense competitive pressure from the major DAW companies having to expand their iOS divisions to respond to this demand which will start happening if this snowballs off of fabfilters lead, as I expect it will.

    That's not a bad thing at all for me as a musician.

    Some of the major DAW companies have some cross-compatibility at the moment, but their offerings are barebones compared to even intro versions of their desktop counterparts.

    I often use GarageBand iOS whose files can open into Logic. For example, I own Sunrizer on both iOS and Mac. Now I'm in a situation where I can use Sunrizer as AU in GarageBand iOS, but if I try to open that file in Logic, it will say I don't have the AU for Sunrizer installed, even though I do have the desktop Sunrizer AU.

    So, I need to ask for cross-compatibility for Sunrizer to make it a complete solution for me.

    I have to believe a similar issue would arise from bringing Cubasis files into Cubase.

    So I have to hope FabFilter have kept this in mind as they developed their iOS AUv3 implementation.

    I'm all of a sudden very optimistic about what could happen within the next two years if things continue to develop this way.

    I'm fairly certain that more desktop devs are going to realize they are leaving money on the floor if they don't also have iOS versions.

    It also might put pressure on iOS AU devs to create desktop versions, too.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @Telefunky said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Carnbot said:
    They confirmed same prices as Auria and no crossgrade possibilty.

    Woah. OK, now someone quickly make a host worthy of them. ;). (Ps no coffee yet, so bitch mode is engaged)

    I would personally use them most with AUM, apeMatrix and Audiobus, worthy hosts for live performance recording with these plugins.

    Yes.

    Not the kind of host I am looking for though. That territory is well seeded. I am more of a photoshopping hipster and less of a Bob Ross.

    I love Hugh Jackman.

    Everyone’s an artist these days lol
    Have you seen this video? I cringe what he does at the end....Rembrandt being one of my art heroes

    Hehe, yah, I have seen it, classic. I love how popular Bob Ross shirts are on kids these days too. Not sure exactly what the source of the popularity is these days, guess he is a respected meme? Gotta love the guy. I tend to like the old masters and the ‘newer’ floor drip painting goof balls equally. My favorite falls somewhat in the middle with the trippy west coast US art being done that is clearly abstract and stream of conciousness but demonstrates dedicated craftsmanship. Like wannabe architects on acid heh.

    This is making the rounds again. Heard a story on the news that Rembrandt took small amounts of LSD.......don’t know who his dealer was but I think it’s bullshite like most news :)

    Whoever it was must have had a time machine.

    it's known since medieval times, like that deadly rave from 1518 ;)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_plague_of_1518

    Technicaly not LSD though and more akin to LSA that you can easily get from Morning Glories or Hawain Babby Woodrose seeds, errr, or so I’ve allegedly heard.

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    I’m secretly hoping the AUFabs will be UNIVERSAL. Some daws are that way, and honestly it’s great to be be to Airdrop a track with effects in place into your phone so you can work on it during your lunch hour.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    I don't think it's planned for iphone but I could be wrong. Can't blame them though, getting their detailed interface correctly into iphone format is pretty hard I think.

  • hisdudenesshisdudeness

    From FabFilter...

    One important note: Pro-Q 2 doesn't work -yet- in Garageband on iPad. This is due to the fact that GaragaBand did not support Audio Units with MIDI support yet. However, we are in close contact with the Garageband team and they are working on a soon-to-be-released update!

    Floris (FabFilter) — Jul 16, 2018

    Garageband+ FF = :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    https://www.kvraudio.com/news/fabfilter-releases-pro-q-2-as-auv3-for-ipad-starts-summer-sale-41940

    nice review and store link.

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    £28.99 in UK store

  • CarnbotCarnbot
    edited July 2018

    appstore link: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/fabfilter-pro-q-2/id1401182622?mt=8&at=1001lMjV

  • supadomsupadom
    edited July 2018

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @cabo said:

    @Chaztrip said:

    haha, the one complaining was me

    But in case anyone was thinking there would be a 'special deal' this response tells you otherwise.

    Certainly not sure I'll buy all of them again, but, as has been mentioned, I do have a very good sense of the one or two I would like as AU second time around....

    Agreed, AU versions will be new, independent of WaveMachine Labs apps. The message pretty much spells it out. In fact it is a very well crafted response to a potentially very tricky question. I have a feeling WML and FabFilter folks had some kind of exclusivity agreement that has just, or is about to run out.

    The good thing for the existing users is that they will know which plugins not to buy again.

    The good thing for others is that they’re not locked inside Auria. Win, win.

    Sorry for stating the obvious. ;)

    The one thing is more true than ever. As IOS grows as a platform and devices get more powerful we’re going to see more and more serious stuff hitting the appoholic stage.

    As long as Apple don’t mess things up with their business choices we should be ok.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited July 2018

    Damnit, gotta buy the first one out of celebration. This happened quickly!

  • CarnbotCarnbot
    edited July 2018

    @supadom said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @cabo said:

    @Chaztrip said:

    haha, the one complaining was me

    But in case anyone was thinking there would be a 'special deal' this response tells you otherwise.

    Certainly not sure I'll buy all of them again, but, as has been mentioned, I do have a very good sense of the one or two I would like as AU second time around....

    Agreed, AU versions will be new, independent of WaveMachine Labs apps. The message pretty much spells it out. In fact it is a very well crafted response to a potentially very tricky question. I have a feeling WML and FabFilter folks had some kind of exclusivity agreement that has just, or is about to run out.

    The good thing for the existing users is that they will know which plugins not to buy again.

    The good thing for others is that they’re not locked inside Auria. Win, win.

    Sorry for stating the obvious. ;)

    The one thing is more true than ever. As IOS grows as a platform and devices get more powerful we’re going to see more and more serious stuff hitting the appoholic stage.

    As long as Apple don’t mess things up with their business choices we should be ok.

    They didn't have any agreement, they mentioned in the forum. They just hadn't decided to release until now, I guess full screen AU with midi out is a big factor, before that was impossible.

  • Dench3gDench3g

    Oh man... I'm not sure if I would have participated in the recent auria/fab sale had I known the AU knews :)

  • david_2017david_2017

    It’s out!

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth
    edited July 2018

    I agree 100% with their pricing
    /sales policy, though I do think it should work the other way around — ie. if you own the AU it unlocks the Auria Pro version, same how it works with Sugar Bytes apps.

    Otherwise, it puts the Auria Pro versions in a bit of a weird place going forward (nice to have but not worth the cost in a million years, if you already have access to the AU — and the logical one of the two to buy is the AU).

    I’m going to hold off on buying these apps until I need them for a specific task (I have a live performance setup going that I’m happy with at the moment), but I’m definitely curious to hear how they rate in terms of processing power. If they were comparatively light, I’d probably start slowing swapping them in.

  • gsm909gsm909

    Very nice. Minimum cpu hit, about 2% per instance, on my Air2

    But!, check this out, in AUM, using Pro Q2 actually reduces the cpu load in this example setup

    With no Pro Q2 loaded the cpu hit is steady around 44%

    Then if I load a Pro Q2 onto each channel and tweak with a couple of presets, I have this

    The cpu is steady at 37%

    If I unload the Pro Q2 from each channel...

    Stable around 46%

    Weird!

  • brambosbrambos
    edited July 2018

    @gsm909 said:
    Very nice. Minimum cpu hit, about 2% per instance, on my Air2

    But!, check this out, in AUM, using Pro Q2 actually reduces the cpu load in this example setup
    Stable around 46%

    Weird!

    Nah.. that's CPU throttling for you. If you cross a certain CPU threshold it will go into full-power mode. And if you come below the threshold it will throttle back again (making it look like there's a higher CPU usage percentage).

  • gsm909gsm909

    ^thanks @brambos , it just looked weird, first glance. Thanks for the explanation

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Has anyone used this with BM3 yet?

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @OscarSouth said:
    Otherwise, it puts the Auria Pro versions in a bit of a weird place going forward (nice to have but not worth the cost in a million years, if you already have access to the AU — and the logical one of the two to buy is the AU).

    It really depends on the performance of the AU versions. In Auria you can run 20-25 instances of these plugins live (it depends on the plugin and the latency settings of course, but Pro Q2 for example is easy to run many instances of, Pro MB or Pro L2 are more CPU intensive).

    The CPU hit looks good, but it would be interesting to hear from those who've bought the AU version how many instances they can run at once.

  • cuscolimacuscolima

    Does it have the exact same features as the original one in Auria ?

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @cuscolima said:
    Does it have the exact same features as the original one in Auria ?

    Should do, and the same features as desktop.

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth

    @richardyot said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    Otherwise, it puts the Auria Pro versions in a bit of a weird place going forward (nice to have but not worth the cost in a million years, if you already have access to the AU — and the logical one of the two to buy is the AU).

    It really depends on the performance of the AU versions. In Auria you can run 20-25 instances of these plugins live (it depends on the plugin and the latency settings of course, but Pro Q2 for example is easy to run many instances of, Pro MB or Pro L2 are more CPU intensive).

    The CPU hit looks good, but it would be interesting to hear from those who've bought the AU version how many instances they can run at once.

    Yeah that's what I mean. Being able to run natively in Auria Pro would most likely be a huge advantage in compatibility and performance, but I can't see it being a realistic proposition for most users. I think the prices are better than fair, but unrealistic to double buy. Means that only users who already own the Auria Pro versions on this date will realistically be able to use them.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @OscarSouth said:

    @richardyot said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    Otherwise, it puts the Auria Pro versions in a bit of a weird place going forward (nice to have but not worth the cost in a million years, if you already have access to the AU — and the logical one of the two to buy is the AU).

    It really depends on the performance of the AU versions. In Auria you can run 20-25 instances of these plugins live (it depends on the plugin and the latency settings of course, but Pro Q2 for example is easy to run many instances of, Pro MB or Pro L2 are more CPU intensive).

    The CPU hit looks good, but it would be interesting to hear from those who've bought the AU version how many instances they can run at once.

    Yeah that's what I mean. Being able to run natively in Auria Pro would most likely be a huge advantage in compatibility and performance, but I can't see it being a realistic proposition for most users. I think the prices are better than fair, but unrealistic to double buy. Means that only users who already own the Auria Pro versions on this date will realistically be able to use them.

    Well for the time being I would still certainly continue to buy the Auria native versions if any new plugins are released, and I have zero regrets about any of the purchases I made in Auria, including the recent Pro L2. But then I admittedly am a die-hard Auria fanboy.

    The only thing that could muddy the waters would be if something like Logic for iOS was to drop tomorrow, then I might have to re-assess things.

  • obijohnobijohn

    @hisdudeness said:
    From FabFilter...

    One important note: Pro-Q 2 doesn't work -yet- in Garageband on iPad. This is due to the fact that GaragaBand did not support Audio Units with MIDI support yet. However, we are in close contact with the Garageband team and they are working on a soon-to-be-released update!

    Floris (FabFilter) — Jul 16, 2018

    Garageband+ FF = :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

    This is HUGE. If FF have pushed Apple to update GB with support for AU midi FX that means Rozeta will also now work in GB when the update ships. Just... wow.

  • SamuSamu

    @obijohn said:

    @hisdudeness said:
    From FabFilter...

    One important note: Pro-Q 2 doesn't work -yet- in Garageband on iPad. This is due to the fact that GaragaBand did not support Audio Units with MIDI support yet. However, we are in close contact with the Garageband team and they are working on a soon-to-be-released update!

    Floris (FabFilter) — Jul 16, 2018

    Garageband+ FF = :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

    This is HUGE. If FF have pushed Apple to update GB with support for AU midi FX that means Rozeta will also now work in GB when the update ships. Just... wow.

    Indeed, just hope they pushed for editing of the recorded automation data as well as AUv3 automation :)

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