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What possible good can getting upset about it do? There isn’t even the most infinitesimal chance that anyone, or even everyone here combined, can make any difference in the outcome. Shit happens. People deal with it. I’ll be concerned if/when it happens and I’m in a position where I have the need and the means to have it be relevant to me. Until then I’m not wasting any emotional or mental energy on things I can’t change.
(Hope I don’t get anyone mad by saying that. That’s just my perspective. People are free to stress as much about things as they want.
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Pre-stress. Yeah let’s do it!
How so? The lightning to 3.5mm adapter is thin, flexible, and only 2 inches long.
I’ve lost two of those damn little things already.
You see, guys, we iPhone users have already been down this road, gone through all the stages of grief, and learned that in the end, life can and indeed does go on—without our 3.5mm headphone jack. The world will not end if the iPad loses its headphone jack, so there’s no reason to even worry about these rumors. 🙂
It’s actually very sturdy. One comes free with the device. They are only $9 to replace. But I agree it’s something we’ve had to learn to live with. I would prefer to have a headphone jack—don’t get me wrong, I really would. But life is never fair, I don’t get what I want, there are solutions that are nearly painless, and iOS music making will continue, with or without the jack. So, my point is that there is no point in getting ourselves worked up about whether or not this will happen.
For one, it means it’s going to be extra clumsy to develop audio apps, since the Lightning port is needed for tethering the device to XCode for testing.
Let's face it, if rumors weren't a thing, half of the internet content wouldn't exist today
Ive had an iphone 7 for just over a month and the lack of jack is a irrating pain in the backside. Its a nice device otherwise, but not free of bugs and niggles.
But stylistically WTF: why are the dongles white?! I have the sleek jet black model but the whole aesthetic is ruined by this stupid ugly white thing inbetween. Am I heck buying third party Belkin black dongles, we all know the mindfield of using non offical apple products.
Since Steve Jobs left the scene, Apple have been so sloppy. And another thing, why are there cultish fan types on these types of threads who idiotically say stuff like ‘if you dont like what apple are doing, then just don't buy it’: as if there was other options for what we do here on the Audiobus forum. Just so dumb and lacking in critical thinking. Apple should not be exempt from consumer criticism, especially when they are being so arrogant and elitist in a time of skyrocketing inequality, otherwise what kind of weird distopia are we heading for?
IPad Pro without a headphone jack, lolz, as if people are swimming with these things. Doesn’t sound pro at all. I guess we will get a wave of mini lightning interfaces that will be obsolete in a flash.
Thinking of @jakoB_haQ and his dongle song.
Another reason for my dismay of the rumoured removal of the headphone jack is that I like to connect a midi keyboard to my iPad via the lightning port at the same time as using headphones. If I have to use the lightning port for headphones then I have nowhere to connect my midi keyboard unless I buy a Bluetooth midi keyboard but there aren’t many Bluetooth midi keyboards on the market. I don’t really want to use an audio interface because it has to be mains powered and that takes away the portability of the iPad.
Very interesting
Can I ask (as the original FB discussion confused me) what connector does the mic input use: TS or TRS?
And if it’s TRS for a mono mic signal what is the extra wire carrying?
It's called being pragmatic. There's nothing that anybody here will be able to do about it. Apple is going to do what they want to do. Anybody who's followed them for a long time knows that.
As for Apple being sloppy, you mentioned the white dongles.
It was no different when Steve Jobs was around. I remember buying a Black MacBook and I liked that machine a lot, but I do remember it coming with a white power supply and a white cable to connect it to the Black MacBook. So, the colors didn't always match up before either.
Only need to connect through lightning once to pair your device to Xcode. After that you can do all your testing over the air
Interesting video how some people can have a certain bias
iPad Pro Vs Surface Pro 3: Apple iPad Pro Blows Fanboy's Mind
I know, but it’s slow in practice and not nearly as trouble-free as a cabled connection. Personally I stopped using OTA testing until they vastly improve the experience.
There are many other things much more important to worry about - they're talking up a food supply crisis in the UK for one, along with a lack of medicines, soldiers on the street to combat public disorder and all that. Then there's Trump and Putin sabre rattling, and my knees aren't getting any better with age.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't vocalise concerns about the little stuff though. Losing the headphone jack makes the iPad less musician friendly - I use it all the time as an audio out. Buying a 'dongle' and using the lightning port isn't an option, as that'll already be used either by the charger (gadget, I'm looking at you), or a MIDI keyboard. Or my iRig Pro as an audio input.
'But Monzo you can buy a hub with ports for dongles and lots of other crap..'
Yes, but I don't have to do that now, so making me do so will make things WORSE than they are now. And worse for other musicians too. Which means less musicians using the platform. Which means less musicians buying music apps. Which means less money for devs. Which means less new/innovative apps. Which means even fewer musicians using the platform...
If enough people speak up about things that other people are doing, that are making things worse, then they might not happen. Not going to help my dodgy knees, but it could stop a whole bunch of trouble happening in the future.
If we don't complain about it on here, in our little iOS musicians corner, then who will? You never know who might be reading this.
Whining here does nothing.
Apple.com/feedback
That said. I don’t think the jack is going anywhere. The source for this rumour has a bad track record and no one has corroborated it yet.
It's 9$ to replace in the states. You can't even get a spare here in India in some areas. So you're basically effed if you lose the free one. A friend of mine lost the one that came with his iPhone and he's been stuck with Bluetooth for over a year. Something you cannot use with certain audio apps.
I own a decent audio interface. The ica 4+ is brilliant with the iPad. But 99% of the time I carry nothing other than my iPad and headphones. Carrying an extra easily lost and hard to replace dongle basically ends the usefulness of the iPad for me. I'll just stick to ableton or even God forbid my Android phone with caustic in the future... The removal of the headphone jack is what drive me permanently away from the iPhone.
Why can’t you just put the dongle on the end, and just leave it there?
You can't be serious lol. It will break in my backpack.
You can't be serious lol. No, it won’t.
I don't know, what possible good does posting anything on a message board forum do? This is a place for people to discuss things that impact iOS music. People here get worked up over when Beepstreet Drambo is coming out, or why ________ app hasn't updated to incorporate _______ capability like all of the other apps.
Don't interpret my rambling post with too many words as evidence of my mental state regarding a headphone jack. My emotional state would better be described as disappointed than mad. And I don't think the purpose was to influence Apple to change a decision. I think the idea is that all new Apple devices are going to lack an interfacing capability that I am pretty sure 99% of us have used at one point or another, and most of us use routinely. It warrants discussion as to how we're going to adapt to that. For example, somebody above posted a link to a $16 USB3 hub with a headphone jack - potential workaround. That was interesting information I learned because I came here.
Doing nothing does nothing.
And you’re ten times more likely to get a response posting on a highly ranked public forum, out of the reach of corporate PR machines, than you are sending a message into the company’s feedback bin.
I just pretended my iPad had no jacks at all.
I tried to connect my Bose sound link bluetooth speaker and my mixfader at the same time. didnt worked?
Am I missing something, or is this impossible...!?
If so, then removing stuff for a wireless future is a joke.
Maybe some famous you-tuber can help......(aka´Macbook throttle gate)
Question is this still working with latest iOS. My experience is that a lot of this kind extrenal things just stops working after a there's aa iOS update. Often these are not signed and officially licensed.
Would be very interested, but please let me know if you have had any problems with it and is still working under iOS 11.4.1?