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  • edited March 2014

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  • It's possible I overlooked it in this 7 page thread (!) but I'm having a slight lissue with Guitarism and AB recording. I can slot Guitarism in the AB input slot, and then another app in output (Beatmaker 2 for example). A track is created in the BM2 and named Guitarism, but when I switch back to Guitarism I don't get a red REC icon to begin the recording in BM2. To actually initiate the record I had to flip back to BM2, hit record (early), switch back to Guitarism, play it, then switch back and stop recording. I tried the same thing in another output app (Loopy I think) with the same result. Any tips?

  • edited March 2013

    Make sure you slide down or up below or above the icon to reveal the record button.

  • Ahh that's it. Must be due to the iPhone size, I'd never seen that on another iPad native app. Thanks!! I'm a bit slow :D

  • @jesse_ohio, I had the same thing. On my iPad it was fine. I thought something was wrong with the iPhone version until my clumsy fingers slid the controls and the rec button appeared.

  • It hides sometimes on the Ipad also. I guess it depends on how many apps in the slot.

  • @jesse_ohio glad it worked out! @mgmg4871 thanks for jumping in - you guys are way faster than me :)

    In other news... native iPad support imminent...

  • Good news - can't wait! (Well, I guess i'll have to...)

  • Cool! I'm really looking forward to this Rhism! How much will it cost? What IAPs will it have?

    --Sean

  • Current app will go universal.

    No new IAPs yet (those will come in the next update) but Smart Strings has been redone to actually work for finger-picking.

    And there's one more thing... that you'll have to wait to see ;)

  • I can't wait for this...its gonna be special...I know..

  • High five for 'one more thing'.

  • guitarism 3.0 update just went live! More info on the other thread, including a demo video, and that 'one more thing' :)

  • Thanks for all your hard work, dedication, and for listening to our feedback and requests!

  • Ever since updating Guitarism I have not been able to get the hammer on chords to work at all, this is on both of my devices iPhone 4S and iPad 4 with iOS 6.1.3. Do you have to have multiple gestures on for this to work? Most music apps seem to want this turned off.

    It's not recognizing multiple touches at all, I have to pick up a finger before I can select another chord or the chord won't change much less hammer on.

    What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help!!

  • @yowza That is really strange, haven't seen that issue before. Anyone else running into this?

    Definitely better to keep the "multitasking gestures" off for music apps including guitarism.

    Before figuring out the hammer-on issue, we should figure out why multi-finger chord selection isn't working, since this is a pre-requisite for hammer-on. Are you unable to use multi-finger chord selection on both devices?

  • @Rhism. My hammer on's work somewhat but haven't been able to get pull offs to work at all.

  • Both hammer ons and pull offs are working fine for me, although I have found you need to be quick. There is presumably a set time after which it assumes you are setting up the next chord rather than doing these gestures. I am on an iPad 2. Could it be that the time runs quicker on an iPad 3 or 4 and is therefore is just too short to get the effect?

  • Both work for me (iPad 3 - newest iOS). With or without gestures turned off. Of course having them on can be problematic with more than 2 fingers on the screen.

    Observation - i can only hammer on from left to right, only in the same row and only to the next chord (not from the left most to the right most chord in the row). Pull offs only from right to left, only in the same row and only to the next chord (not from the right most to the left most chord in the row). Also, with pull offs, you must put your finger on the chord to be pulled off to, prior to putting your finger on the chord you are going to strum and pull off. I assume this is they way it is intended to function.

    I noticed that String sounds don't seem to work, at least I can't hear any difference with it on or off.

  • @Ganthofer That's exactly what it is. When I first added this feature I had it enabled to hammer / pull from any chord to any chord but it was just happening way too often, too many false positives. So I had to tone it down severely to just the cases where it makes the most sense. What "string" sounds are you referring to - do you mean the finger sounds?

    @Bootsy Do your pull-offs work if you follow Ganthofer's description of how to do it?

    @PhilW I've tuned it to 1/4 second, the same on all devices. I'm pretty sure the clocks all run at the same speed, give or take a few microseconds :)

    Hammer / pull aside, is anyone else having issues with multi-finger chord selection?

  • I like the new iPad chord selection, works great.

  • edited April 2013

    @Rhism - I spoke too soon. Yes, it was the finger sound I was refering to. I had heard it in a video someone made about Guitarism. I didn't hear it when I played, because I was always strumming and mostly touching the chords, not sliding my finger from one chord to the other. Now that I've figured that out, the string sounds are there when I slide my finger between chords.

    Also: hammer on / pull offs work using the secondary chord selectors.

  • I'll mention that when using guitarism through an amp app in audiobus that the amp app may also mute those string noises. I've seen noise pedals that do it and even the feedback control in Ampkit seems to quiet them quite a bit. If you ever find they aren't heard check out the amp app settings. :-)

  • @Rhism @Ganthofer thanks that does work perfectly now. Thanks again.

  • I just discovered that you can hammer on/pull off from any chord to the secondary chords. Awesome!

  • @Ganthofer @Bootsy Yes that's the original hammer on / pull off scenario from the iPhone version that's been there since v1. The new chord-to-chord hammer /pull was just added in 3.0

    @yowza Do you have a photo / screenshot / video demonstrating the issue? That may help figure out what's going on with your multi-finger issue

  • Adil,thanks for the update.
    Still getting use to the new layout and features,but feel you've (again),delivered.
    Do you have a rough ETA on midi features?(in/out/virtual?)

  • edited April 2013

    @Rhism
    Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
    I have gotten hammer ons and pull offs to work on both devices now, sort of. I ended up deleting the app from my devices and downloaded it again and the first thing I noticed is the chord buttons moved (on the iPad) so when I updated it earlier this week iI had the button layout in the iphone version as if it thought I was using an iPhone not an iPad, hopefully that that makes sense. Downloading again from scratch fixed that.

    Multi touch works now on both devices but it's not very consistent and I have to lay my fingers fairly flat on the buttons for them to be recognized. In other words I can't use my fingertips to switch chords, I have to use the pad side of my finger to lay on the buttons (like I was getting fingerprinted or playing a partial barre chord) and the fingers have to lay down fairly flat for the multitouch to even be recognized. For me at least it would be nice if I could use my fingertips because I have to change the whole angle of my hand to flatten the fingers which is awkward. Maybe you could have a sensitivity slider that would allow the user to adjust how sensitive the chord pads are. There are times I'd want more sensitivity and other times I'd like less.

    As someone else said earlier you have to be quick with the hammer ons but this usually causes them to have a faster rhythm than I'd like. Where I want the hammer to happen on an eighth note rhythm I have to hammer down so quickly for the touch to be recognized it ends up being a sixteenth note which is not what I wanted. If I wait longer to hammer on the eighth note the hammer is not recognized. Pull offs are less consistent than hammers so I've not had as much luck getting them to work at all. When I have multiple fingers down and lift a finger, the pull off is usually not recognized.

    To be honest I'm not sure I'll use the hammer ons and pull off that much so it's not a big deal. I'm a guitar player by trade so I'll just use a real guitar if I need that.

    Sorry for the delay, I hope this is useful!! Thanks for a very cool app.

  • @commonstookie No ETA yet unfortunately, there's still a long list of things to do for MIDI, so I'm probably going to release the 'custom chords' and 'extra sounds' IAPs first, as they are somewhat needed for the MIDI to sit right with everything else.

    @yowza Looks like the last time you updated, it didn't really update the app and you were still on v2.21. Perhaps the download got stuck mid-way or something. Good to know it's working now!

    Actually the touch sensitivity is completely out of the app's control - iOS determines that completely by itself. Guitarism activates a chord as soon as it detects even the slightest touch on that chord area. In your case I suspect your fingertips have calluses (as most guitarists' do) and as a result iOS doesn't detect your fingertips on its touchscreen. I have the same issue - it looks like the iOS touchscreen can't handle calluses that well. You should be seeing the same fingertips issue on other apps as well as the OS itself. You might try experimenting with holding the iPad like a guitar vs putting it on a desk / your lap, since your fingertips' angle will vary between the two positions.

    As for hammer / pull time sensitivity, it's a big issue right now. Ultimately this should be determined by the song tempo but guitarism doesn't really have the concept of tempo right now. Hoping to add that in the next set of updates (after the upcoming IAPs are done) which would make this work much better for slower tempo songs.

  • Just posted a new iPad guitarism video, a cover of U2's Desire. This is the song that first got me excited about the posture that guitarism on iPad can enable. Standing up, right hand moving freely, eyes not looking at the iPad at all - this is what strumming an acoustic feels like :)

    No fx in this one, just clean acoustic guitar and vocals

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