Audio Damage Enso

espiegel123

@Daveypoo said:
@skiphunt I spent some time messing with Enso in apeMatrix yesterday and had no issues - glad to hear the reinstall cleared things up for you.

I'll be yet another person to say it: Enso is crazy. I've toyed with live loopers over the years (remember the Boomerang pedal?) but this really presses the right buttons for me, especially the Frippertronics aspect. I've been using RE-1 like crazy because I prefer the signal degradation of tape delays and this is like the meaner big brother of RE-1.

Now that I think of it, I gotta figure out how to use these things in tandem....

They work great in tandem. I've been using Enso to capture and set up the audio to loop and RE-1 to add manipulate echoes and stereo. Loads of fun.

Carnbot

@Richtowns said:
^ Yep, Loving the app but my request would also be that notes aswell as cc can be used to learn the sector triggers (to avoid the need for 3rd party midi utilities like streamerbyter)

In AUM (I'm on the beta but believe the current build does this too) you can learn with midi notes using the Audio unit parameters on the track settings.

handed

Sorry if this has been covered. Is there a way to jump to half or double speed directly without having to adjust change the speed pot manually?

CracklePot

@Janosax said:

@CracklePot said:

@Janosax said:
Midi note midi learn also misses I’ve to use streambyter for my specifics needs.

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Say what, now?

I use a complex MidiFire script with BlueBoard in midi note mode, with up to 24 actions including some midi note to CC conversion, but it has some latency for double/triple taps (only an issue with Enso reversing). So I have to use BlueBoard CC mode instead with Enso as it has only CC midi learning. And I loose some actions (only 4) and some compatibility with VoiceRack FX midi control (works badly with CC). So a midi note learn feature should be nice with Enso. I test the beast and will contact AD for feature request and bug report a bit later.

I was messing with the Midi Learn in AUM Midi Control section. I can get the Sectors to switch with note input, but which Sector it switches to is determined by the velocity of a single note.
Pretty hard to control it from a Keyboard. But it is possible. You can use both the in-app midi learn, or the usual AUM AU parameter method.

Janosax

@Carnbot said:

@Richtowns said:
^ Yep, Loving the app but my request would also be that notes aswell as cc can be used to learn the sector triggers (to avoid the need for 3rd party midi utilities like streamerbyter)

In AUM (I'm on the beta but believe the current build does this too) you can learn with midi notes using the Audio unit parameters on the track settings.

Not all parameters are accessible, mostly transport controls are missing:

Janosax

@CracklePot said:

@Janosax said:

@CracklePot said:

@Janosax said:
Midi note midi learn also misses I’ve to use streambyter for my specifics needs.

?

Say what, now?

I use a complex MidiFire script with BlueBoard in midi note mode, with up to 24 actions including some midi note to CC conversion, but it has some latency for double/triple taps (only an issue with Enso reversing). So I have to use BlueBoard CC mode instead with Enso as it has only CC midi learning. And I loose some actions (only 4) and some compatibility with VoiceRack FX midi control (works badly with CC). So a midi note learn feature should be nice with Enso. I test the beast and will contact AD for feature request and bug report a bit later.

I was messing with the Midi Learn in AUM Midi Control section. I can get the Sectors to switch with note input, but which Sector it switches to is determined by the velocity of a single note.
Pretty hard to control it from a Keyboard. But it is possible. You can use both the in-app midi learn, or the usual AUM AU parameter method.

I also need Enso transport actions, so I’ll rewrite some things in MidiFire waiting for an update.

Jocphone

@CracklePot said:

@Jocphone said:

@MonzoPro said:

@espiegel123 said:
Btw, it is worth taking 20minutes to read the Enso manual. It is well written a> @thepinkelefant said:

I got it , watched the videos...and still lost in controlling it !!!! I think this needs a different skin with a simpler layout that mortals can use to control it 😉😀😀

Download the PDF from the Audio Damage web site. It's worth the 10-20 minutes that it takes to read it. All is illuminated.

The thing that was confusing me was whether to use the 'Mode Buttons', or the 'Trigger Button' when recording/overdubbing, as they seemed to do the same thing. What threw me, was nothing was happening when hitting the Mode Buttons, so I've been using the Trigger button instead - I wasn't sure of the connection between the two, and the Mode buttons seemed not to work so I assumed they weren't active.

Just read the manual (already watched the vids several times), and it seems I should be using the Mode Buttons. However, I just tried it again, and for some reason the Mode buttons are really unresponsive - I have to hit the play, record, stop buttons about four times to get them to do anything, whereas the Trigger button seems to work straight away. I don't normally have an issue with this...so something's up somewhere. Maybe I need to reinstall.

Someone, may have been @Jumpercollins mentioned to use the trigger button and that has been working a lot more reliably for me. When I used the other it seems to keep recording over a fixed length loop and resulted in a very short looped sample. The trigger buttons stops at the end and starts playing the same loop.

Could it have been me?

Carnbot

@Janosax said:

@Carnbot said:

@Richtowns said:
^ Yep, Loving the app but my request would also be that notes aswell as cc can be used to learn the sector triggers (to avoid the need for 3rd party midi utilities like streamerbyter)

In AUM (I'm on the beta but believe the current build does this too) you can learn with midi notes using the Audio unit parameters on the track settings.

Not all parameters are accessible, mostly transport controls are missing:

if you scroll down, you'll see the rest

Hmtx

@Janosax said:
Not all parameters are accessible, mostly transport controls are missing:

Audio Damage made it clear that they intended transport to be linked to the host by design. I don’t think we will see transport controls added in future updates. (unless you have new info that I missed)

skoptic

I’m loving the app - but one thing I’m struggling with. I want to trigger (precise and quantised) actions via the cc mapping, but can’t see any easy way to do this in Cubasis or AUM (haven’t tried BM3).

Any suggestions? The only thing I’ve got working is Rozeta LFO in AUM, but ideally I’d like to trigger rec points, reverse points, sector selection starts, quantized, preferably in Cubasis.... eluding me so far.

Without that it’s falling into the camp of (awesome) ambient noodle, rather than Sector-esque looping glitch mayhem

Janosax

@Carnbot said:

@Janosax said:

@Carnbot said:

@Richtowns said:
^ Yep, Loving the app but my request would also be that notes aswell as cc can be used to learn the sector triggers (to avoid the need for 3rd party midi utilities like streamerbyter)

In AUM (I'm on the beta but believe the current build does this too) you can learn with midi notes using the Audio unit parameters on the track settings.

Not all parameters are accessible, mostly transport controls are missing:

if you scroll down, you'll see the rest

Already scrolled down, hard to take a full screenshot however

Can’t see record/overdub/play/stop global Enso controls in AUM or AB. Perhaps I’ve missed their names?

@Hmtx said:

@Janosax said:
Not all parameters are accessible, mostly transport controls are missing:

Audio Damage made it clear that they intended transport to be linked to the host by design. I don’t think we will see transport controls added in future updates. (unless you have new info that I missed)

No special info.

Carnbot

@Janosax said:

@Carnbot said:

@Janosax said:

@Carnbot said:

@Richtowns said:
^ Yep, Loving the app but my request would also be that notes aswell as cc can be used to learn the sector triggers (to avoid the need for 3rd party midi utilities like streamerbyter)

In AUM (I'm on the beta but believe the current build does this too) you can learn with midi notes using the Audio unit parameters on the track settings.

Not all parameters are accessible, mostly transport controls are missing:

if you scroll down, you'll see the rest

Already scrolled down, hard to take a full screenshot however

Can’t see record/overdub/play/stop global Enso controls in AUM or AB. Perhaps I’ve missed their names?

@Hmtx said:

@Janosax said:
Not all parameters are accessible, mostly transport controls are missing:

Audio Damage made it clear that they intended transport to be linked to the host by design. I don’t think we will see transport controls added in future updates. (unless you have new info that I missed)

No special info.

ah, ok I'm referring to the sector triggers which the original post was trying to find, they are available.

eross

I’ve been doing beta testing on this for a while now, and it took me a bit to wrap my head around it. but if you set it up like this. don’t focus on the center buttons immediately just foucus on the trigger button in the top left corner. basically tap that button, this will arm it and make it ready to record when it hears a sound. then it will record for 2 measures( or whatever you want to set it to) then it will go into overdub mode. and you can keep recording sounds on top. if you are set to 100% (bottom left)it will keep looping. anything less and your sound decays in volume on each cycle. when your ready to stop overdub. hit play in the middle and it will continue looping until you put it back into overdub mode. it’s very fun.

when your @Jocphone said:

@MonzoPro said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
S'funny, I did watch the full length feature, but am going to need the Let's Speak Loud and Slow for the Boys at the Back version @thesoundtestroom

Me too. I watched the 40 minute vid again last night, as it hadn’t dropped here then, and thought I knew how it all worked.

Got the app this morning and erm.... I can get it to do stuff, but a bit confused as to how I’m doing it. In particular the play/stop buttons in the middle...can’t work out how they’re working with the ones on the left.

Please add me to that list. Bought it but clueless how I might use it.

lazyass

guys, sorry for noob question but what a point of looper in ios? I always thought loopers made for live instruments but looks like enso made for using in daw where I already have ability to record audio, stretch it, add fx and etc.
p.s. I'm asking because I want to buy it but I don't even know why I need it. looks like that sexy circles in the middle work like hypnofrog)

Janosax

@CracklePot I’ve made a sax improvisation with Enso, have to use Vegas to join video capture and AUM recording, will upload it later tonight on YT. Super fun app to do experimental stuff I must say.

Jumpercollins

Had 2 crashes now in AUM basically iPad screen freeze where I had to do a hard reset to get out of the fault. Had 4 instances running with sound sources taken out to reduce CPU. Tried to do a screen recording which froze things! Moral of the story save your work first!

Janosax

@Jumpercollins said:
Had 2 crashes now in AUM basically iPad screen freeze where I had to do a hard reset to get out of the fault. Had 4 instances running with sound sources taken out to reduce CPU. Tried to do a screen recording which froze things! Moral of the story save your work first!

Had a few crashes too and sound issues in Audiobus and AUM, mostly when using speakers and with not enough juice in iPhone battery. Was able to record a 10 mn impro with Enso hosted in AB recorded in AUM with video capture at the same time.

Daveypoo

@lazyass said:
guys, sorry for noob question but what a point of looper in ios? I always thought loopers made for live instruments but looks like enso made for using in daw where I already have ability to record audio, stretch it, add fx and etc.
p.s. I'm asking because I want to buy it but I don't even know why I need it. looks like that sexy circles in the middle work like hypnofrog)

Well - it all depends on what you want to do with a loop. Jamming over top of it is the most obvious application, as you've mentioned. But what if you want to record the live changes you're making to the loop? Maybe the act of looping is the track itself, therefore you want to capture the changes as they happen.

Maybe you want to manipulate the loop and then export the manipulated version as it's own loop to be remangled later. Maybe you want to do the Frippertronics thing where you've got a live, degrading loop of what you're playing as you're recording it? Maybe you want to feed a generative synth into it and have it layer sound-on-sound?

Maybe you've got a field recording you want to mangle in real time? Maybe you need to have a delay with a REALLY long delay time? Maybe you want to reverse loops as you record them and re-feed them into themselves?

Maybe you just want an all-inclusive looper-in-a-box so you don't have to export the loop to multiple destinations to get the desired end result.

Not trying to clobber you with options, just trying to rattle off a few of the non-traditional/less obvious applications. Not trying to sell you on Enso either - only you can determine if this is something you'd use or not.

espiegel123

@lazyass said:
guys, sorry for noob question but what a point of looper in ios? I always thought loopers made for live instruments but looks like enso made for using in daw where I already have ability to record audio, stretch it, add fx and etc.
p.s. I'm asking because I want to buy it but I don't even know why I need it. looks like that sexy circles in the middle work like hypnofrog)

It is probably the case that if you don't know why you'd want a realtime looper,you probably don't need one.

skiphunt

@Daveypoo said:
@skiphunt I spent some time messing with Enso in apeMatrix yesterday and had no issues - glad to hear the reinstall cleared things up for you.

I'll be yet another person to say it: Enso is crazy. I've toyed with live loopers over the years (remember the Boomerang pedal?) but this really presses the right buttons for me, especially the Frippertronics aspect. I've been using RE-1 like crazy because I prefer the signal degradation of tape delays and this is like the meaner big brother of RE-1.

Now that I think of it, I gotta figure out how to use these things in tandem....

I wouldn’t call it a meaner big brother, but more like badass brothers of a different muthah.

What I’ve been doing is either getting my loop the way I want it, then feeding into RE-1 for it’s echo and the excellent time stretching. Or, getting a time stretched loop going in RE-1, let it degrade a bit with feedback, then feed that into Enso for some more insanity.

With Enso + RE-1, the possibilities are endless.

lazyass

@Daveypoo, thats a lot of useful options even with my "I don't need a looper" worflow. thanks for sharing!

Daveypoo

@lazyass said:
@Daveypoo, thats a lot of useful options even with my "I don't need a looper" worflow. thanks for sharing!

Hey, no problem. Every tool I get for the toolbox, be it a hammer, a brush or a hammer-brush, needs to have a use, otherwise there's no justification for the money spent. I wouldn't necessarily go to all these places myself, but knowing that the options are there allow me to be more present while jamming. This way when I have an idea and am inspired I can just make it happen, rather than struggling to figure out how to get from where I am to point Z.

lukesleepwalker

@Daveypoo said:

@lazyass said:
@Daveypoo, thats a lot of useful options even with my "I don't need a looper" worflow. thanks for sharing!

Hey, no problem. Every tool I get for the toolbox, be it a hammer, a brush or a hammer-brush, needs to have a use, otherwise there's no justification for the money spent. I wouldn't necessarily go to all these places myself, but knowing that the options are there allow me to be more present while jamming. This way when I have an idea and am inspired I can just make it happen, rather than struggling to figure out how to get from where I am to point Z.

What the hell is a hammer-brush?

Daveypoo

@lukesleepwalker said:
What the hell is a hammer-brush?

I dunno - some jerk earlier in the thread made mention of it.

echoopera

Really enjoying this tool. Super fun to use so far. What I like doing right now, is recording some nonsense for 4 measures, then erasing it, and overdubbing, so I know exactly how long to play my loop into this magical machine

reasOne

@echoopera said:
Really enjoying this tool. Super fun to use so far. What I like doing right now, is recording some nonsense for 4 measures, then erasing it, and overdubbing, so I know exactly how long to play my loop into this magical machine

That's what I've found myself doing... Love enso it's freaking amazing and I need it now that I have it haha but I've deff had issues with timing / syncing with it.Could be a user error and maybe I need more practice, I'm used to loopy starting and stopping right on time even if I change the tempo on a project later

Jumpercollins

Had some fun using Enso this evening.

david_2017

Hey mate, what you described here sounds to me like a threshold sort of feature? I haven’t found it. It’s recording right away and not only when it hears a sound. But that would make it perfect. Can you please shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advanced!

@eross said:
I’ve been doing beta testing on this for a while now, and it took me a bit to wrap my head around it. but if you set it up like this. don’t focus on the center buttons immediately just foucus on the trigger button in the top left corner. basically tap that button, this will arm it and make it ready to record when it hears a sound. then it will record for 2 measures( or whatever you want to set it to) then it will go into overdub mode. and you can keep recording sounds on top.

[Deleted User]

This is starting to click with me now. Just had a great jam feeding Egoist and Aparillo through two separate instances, and fiddling with the loop/input mixes.

Wasn’t sure how I’d use this, but it really adds another dimension to AUM jamming.

JohnnyGoodyear

@MonzoPro said:
This is starting to click with me now. Just had a great jam feeding Egoist and Aparillo through two separate instances, and fiddling with the loop/input mixes.

Wasn’t sure how I’d use this, but it really adds another dimension to AUM jamming.

Well done. Sounds like the red wine tutorial has been helping out again