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  • edited March 2019

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    This is starting to click with me now. Just had a great jam feeding Egoist and Aparillo through two separate instances, and fiddling with the loop/input mixes.

    Wasn’t sure how I’d use this, but it really adds another dimension to AUM jamming.

    Well done. Sounds like the red wine tutorial has been helping out again :)

    And the Paprika Pringles!

    The button thing was throwing me, but now I’m just sticking with the trigger option and it’s doing the job. Wasn’t doing anything fancy just now - just a couple of basic loops, reversed and pitched down, but mucking about with the live input and loop mixes really beefed up an otherwise disappointing jam.

    Yeah, I can see how this is going to fit in. More wine...

  • edited March 2019

    The "creative opportunity/price" ratio on this is strong! :)

    But it does seem to have a lot of teething problems, especially with midi/AUp mapping...

    Here’s a few lil’ tests with an initial midi mapped controller:

    You know how a lot of “tape music” is spacey, atmospheric, and ambient?

    Yea, this ain’t 😜

    And after your ears stop bleeding, check this out for the comedown

    I suggest headphones and a soft place to lie down... 😋

  • It seems to be stuck in 4/4... I was hoping it was going to get the measure from the host, but it seems to disregard this. I only just got it tonight after thinking it must work with different time signatures if it syncs with the host.

    I sent them a message to their support email. Hopefully that gets resolved. I wonder if I’m just missing something. I would be really surprised if it has the same problems on Desktop as well.

  • @DMan said:
    It seems to be stuck in 4/4... I was hoping it was going to get the measure from the host, but it seems to disregard this. I only just got it tonight after thinking it must work with different time signatures if it syncs with the host.

    I sent them a message to their support email. Hopefully that gets resolved. I wonder if I’m just missing something. I would be really surprised if it has the same problems on Desktop as well.

    Yeh. Good catch. It can be sort of worked around using smaller length units, but measures really should be working,

  • This is really cool but there are a couple of things that I would request,
    Maybe there could be some sort of visual indicator for when the actions are going to be triggered as it currently seems very unpredictable in AB3 usually starting after ~2 bars when set to use measure .
    Secondly (and possibly related) I still find the UI quite sluggish for some reason despite reasonably low CPU usage.

  • edited March 2019

    it would be great if the more savvy could post short videos of what they are finding. It could be a tutorial hub for this amazing app. Anybody who has a breakthrough could just do screen record with maybe simple text. I think that be extremely cool. Because I am totally stuck . The Audio damage video I just can’t get my head around at all.

  • @AVX said:
    it would be great if the more savvy could post short videos of what they are finding. It could be a tutorial hub for this amazing app. Anybody who has a breakthrough could just do screen record with maybe simple text. I think that be extremely cool. Because I am totally stuck . The Audio damage video I just can’t get my head around at all.

    I’d recommend loading one of the presets, and playing around with it. I’m still confused by it - just when I think I’ve got the hang of it I get lost again.

    Saying that, it is capable of wonderful things. Just fed a Riffer triggered iMS20 through it, with a bit Discord for added atmosphere, and got completely lost in clouds of drifting spacey synth for ten minutes, which is a nice way to start the day.

  • Lovely app, as ever from AD.
    A veritable ton of potentials to tap, had an hour or two of wonderful fun in Aum with Quanta & just two Enso instances.
    As ever, will need to dedicate some time to fully gen its finer points.

  • @Paul16 said:
    Lovely app, as ever from AD.
    A veritable ton of potentials to tap, had an hour or two of wonderful fun in Aum with Quanta & just two Enso instances.
    As ever, will need to dedicate some time to fully gen its finer points.

    sounds great what did you drive Quanta with? and did you send 2 outs from Quanta or make 2 instances of Quanta? finaly did you use the same settings ie chord structure for both? Love quanta and think it is saldy underated, just like another love of mine, a little unstable, is Cream. The opportunties for experimentation are endless... thanks

  • A really great way to use Enso is to set up your sequencer like a clip launcher with Enso on the master channel or a subgroup (if your sequencer allows subgroups). ModStep is obviously great as it is an Ablton style clip launcher but you'll need to host Enso in ApeMatrix or AUM as ModStep doesn't recognise Enso natively.

    Setting things up like this allows you to cue a bunch clips that complement each other for overdubs. Then you can focus on the modulations, which can be handy if you lack the musical chops to play in your overdubs live.

  • @AVX said:
    it would be great if the more savvy could post short videos of what they are finding. It could be a tutorial hub for this amazing app. Anybody who has a breakthrough could just do screen record with maybe simple text. I think that be extremely cool. Because I am totally stuck . The Audio damage video I just can’t get my head around at all.

    Have you read the manual? If not, I recommend it. I was totally lost till I did. A worthwhile investment of 10-20 minutes.

  • I'm not able to hear any dry output of the signal in Enso when I have a loop in place despite changing the levels of the loop output, is this the same for everyone? would be useful to be able to mix with that. In AUM I'm using it atm.

  • @Carnbot said:
    I'm not able to hear any dry output of the signal in Enso when I have a loop in place despite changing the levels of the loop output, is this the same for everyone? would be useful to be able to mix with that. In AUM I'm using it atm.

    Do you have the input monitor set to Record & Stop? That mutes the input signal once the loop is recorded.

  • @jonmoore said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I'm not able to hear any dry output of the signal in Enso when I have a loop in place despite changing the levels of the loop output, is this the same for everyone? would be useful to be able to mix with that. In AUM I'm using it atm.

    Do you have the input monitor set to Record & Stop? That mutes the input signal once the loop is recorded.

    ah right, thanks, I haven't changed that option yet :)

  • @Carnbot said:

    @jonmoore said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I'm not able to hear any dry output of the signal in Enso when I have a loop in place despite changing the levels of the loop output, is this the same for everyone? would be useful to be able to mix with that. In AUM I'm using it atm.

    Do you have the input monitor set to Record & Stop? That mutes the input signal once the loop is recorded.

    ah right, thanks, I haven't changed that option yet :)

    Yeah default is Record & Stop I think - I tend to leave it set on 'always' when I'm jamming with a loop.

  • @david_2017 said:
    Hey mate, what you described here sounds to me like a threshold sort of feature? I haven’t found it. It’s recording right away and not only when it hears a sound. But that would make it perfect. Can you please shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advanced!

    @eross said:
    I’ve been doing beta testing on this for a while now, and it took me a bit to wrap my head around it. but if you set it up like this. don’t focus on the center buttons immediately just foucus on the trigger button in the top left corner. basically tap that button, this will arm it and make it ready to record when it hears a sound. then it will record for 2 measures( or whatever you want to set it to) then it will go into overdub mode. and you can keep recording sounds on top.

    make sure the Daw transport control is running before you set the trigger button

  • Really enjoying it so far. I can't get 1/2 speed loops sync'd but I'm guessing all of that will be improved? Still killer for what it can do now.

  • Got iOS and vst versions having fun with both. Feeding Serato Sample into it is brilliant fun for building loops.

  • @Metalman said:

    @Paul16 said:
    Lovely app, as ever from AD.
    A veritable ton of potentials to tap, had an hour or two of wonderful fun in Aum with Quanta & just two Enso instances.
    As ever, will need to dedicate some time to fully gen its finer points.

    sounds great what did you drive Quanta with? and did you send 2 outs from Quanta or make 2 instances of Quanta? finaly did you use the same settings ie chord structure for both? Love quanta and think it is saldy underated, just like another love of mine, a little unstable, is Cream. The opportunties for experimentation are endless... thanks

    Was just playing live into Quanta > Enso > 2nd Enso on a mix bus, RatshackReverb also made an appearance at some point. Yes, Quanta is quite fantastic & I havn’t used it anywhere near fully enough yet. Had a great ‘endless’ jam, tweaking through the Quanta presets with Enso rolling it on & on & on ..... one of those where you suddenly notice how much time has flown by 😚

  • Really loving Enso for full-on 'Frippertronics' shenanigans, but feel it's missing wow and flutter settings on the tape heads. You can fake it by momentarily slowing and speeding up the record/play heads but wow and flutter settings would create those slight tape timing differences that add richness to the feedback loop in a more natural manner.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @jonmoore said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I'm not able to hear any dry output of the signal in Enso when I have a loop in place despite changing the levels of the loop output, is this the same for everyone? would be useful to be able to mix with that. In AUM I'm using it atm.

    Do you have the input monitor set to Record & Stop? That mutes the input signal once the loop is recorded.

    ah right, thanks, I haven't changed that option yet :)

    Yeah default is Record & Stop I think - I tend to leave it set on 'always' when I'm jamming with a loop.

    Same here. This is what> @jonmoore said:

    Really loving Enso for full-on 'Frippertronics' shenanigans, but feel it's missing wow and flutter settings on the tape heads. You can fake it by momentarily slowing and speeding up the record/play heads but wow and flutter settings would create those slight tape timing differences that add richness to the feedback loop in a more natural manner.

    I have refrained from saying this because it felt "too soon" given how deep the app is at launch. But agree 100%.

  • @jonmoore said:
    Really loving Enso for full-on 'Frippertronics' shenanigans, but feel it's missing wow and flutter settings

    What is Frippertronics‘ shenanigans?
    I tried googling it, but I couldn’t figure out the difference between Frippertronics and looping and overdubbing!? Thanks for any insight.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @jonmoore said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I'm not able to hear any dry output of the signal in Enso when I have a loop in place despite changing the levels of the loop output, is this the same for everyone? would be useful to be able to mix with that. In AUM I'm using it atm.

    Do you have the input monitor set to Record & Stop? That mutes the input signal once the loop is recorded.

    ah right, thanks, I haven't changed that option yet :)

    Yeah default is Record & Stop I think - I tend to leave it set on 'always' when I'm jamming with a loop.

    Same here. This is what> @jonmoore said:

    Really loving Enso for full-on 'Frippertronics' shenanigans, but feel it's missing wow and flutter settings on the tape heads. You can fake it by momentarily slowing and speeding up the record/play heads but wow and flutter settings would create those slight tape timing differences that add richness to the feedback loop in a more natural manner.

    I have refrained from saying this because it felt "too soon" given how deep the app is at launch. But agree 100%.

    ^this is where pairing Enso with RE-1 shines. I feed my Enso output into RE-1 for time stretching, echo, stereo enhances, wow + flutter

  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    I have refrained from saying this because it felt "too soon" given how deep the app is at launch. But agree 100%.

    I'm with you, and it really is a very minor point overall with what is a fantastically well conceived and executed release.

    Until then, some sample & hold with Rozeta LFO (very small min/max values) might be just the ticket to fake it. ;)

  • edited March 2019

    @david_2017 said:

    @jonmoore said:
    Really loving Enso for full-on 'Frippertronics' shenanigans, but feel it's missing wow and flutter settings

    What is Frippertronics‘ shenanigans?
    I tried googling it, but I couldn’t figure out the difference between Frippertronics and looping and overdubbing!? Thanks for any insight.

    The core difference between standard live looping and what's come to be known as 'Frippertronics' is that the loop itself is re-recorded to 'tape' on each loop pass and slowly degrades in a what can be a musically pleasing way.

    As others have pointed out, the manual is an essential read (and goes into more detail ref 'Frippertronics'). It's thankfully short, to the point and written without jargon.

  • @jonmoore said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    I have refrained from saying this because it felt "too soon" given how deep the app is at launch. But agree 100%.

    I'm with you, and it really is a very minor point overall with what is a fantastically well conceived and executed release.

    Until then, some sample & hold with Rozeta LFO (very small min/max values) might be just the ticket to fake it. ;)

    Oh, now that's a creative idea! Also will check out RE-1 combo per @skiphunt suggestion.

  • wimwim
    edited March 2019

    Yeh, just a touch of a slightly erratic LFO on the playback speed parameter should make an acceptable tape wobble. Rozeta LFO should be just the ticket.

    This might lead to loop timing problems though if that’s important.

  • edited March 2019

    @skoptic said:
    I’m loving the app - but one thing I’m struggling with. I want to trigger (precise and quantised) actions via the cc mapping, but can’t see any easy way to do this in Cubasis or AUM (haven’t tried BM3).

    Any suggestions? The only thing I’ve got working is Rozeta LFO in AUM, but ideally I’d like to trigger rec points, reverse points, sector selection starts, quantized, preferably in Cubasis.... eluding me so far.

    Without that it’s falling into the camp of (awesome) ambient noodle, rather than Sector-esque looping glitch mayhem ;)

    Anyone getting any traction here. From what I can see the left hand buttons call all quantize to the measure, 1/2 etc but the right hand buttons don't seem to quantise (in the manual it just says 'the buttons' will quantise) and it all starts going fairly random when my lack of tempo starts getting involved ;)

  • @jonmoore said:

    @david_2017 said:

    @jonmoore said:
    Really loving Enso for full-on 'Frippertronics' shenanigans, but feel it's missing wow and flutter settings

    What is Frippertronics‘ shenanigans?
    I tried googling it, but I couldn’t figure out the difference between Frippertronics and looping and overdubbing!? Thanks for any insight.

    The core difference between standard live looping and what's come to be known as 'Frippertronics' is that the loop itself is re-recorded to 'tape' on each loop pass and slowly degrades in a what can be a musically pleasing way.

    As others have pointed out, the manual is an essential read (and goes into more detail ref 'Frippertronics'). It's thankfully short, to the point and written without jargon.

    Enso is excellent for Frippertronics. It is interesting to have a few Ensos running in parallel with different feedback settings and leaving them all running in overdub mode and adding new material to each as the original fades...and playing with the hiss and saturation of each one.

  • @skoptic said:

    @skoptic said:
    I’m loving the app - but one thing I’m struggling with. I want to trigger (precise and quantised) actions via the cc mapping, but can’t see any easy way to do this in Cubasis or AUM (haven’t tried BM3).

    Any suggestions? The only thing I’ve got working is Rozeta LFO in AUM, but ideally I’d like to trigger rec points, reverse points, sector selection starts, quantized, preferably in Cubasis.... eluding me so far.

    Without that it’s falling into the camp of (awesome) ambient noodle, rather than Sector-esque looping glitch mayhem ;)

    Anyone getting any traction here. From what I can see the left hand buttons call all quantize to the measure, 1/2 etc but the right hand buttons don't seem to quantise (in the manual it just says 'the buttons' will quantise) and it all starts going fairly random when my lack of tempo starts getting involved ;)

    I can’t get sectors to trigger on the beat which I was hoping to do so I could record a long phrase and then trigger parts of it in time. Next I was going to try mapping them to midi and using quantum to trigger each sector.

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