Korg Gadget 2 Released

JohnnyGoodyear

@Peter321 said:
Now that I've had some time to play a bit more with Gadget 2, I have to say I quite like it.

Sure the beat-lines in the piano roll editor are hard to see - unless you are in a normal to dark lit room, in which case they are OK - I guess the KORG developers don't see much daylight ;-) Hopefully we will get a higher contrast version - I like the darker background, just not the darker lines.

As Doug mentioned in his video, I'm surprised they didn't mention the new drummer-widget at all, it's actually a pretty neat way to get some quick beats flowing.

Since I had purchased both iPolysix and iMS-20 a long time ago (pre-gadget), Memphis and Pompei was free for me, which is nice. And great have them in the Gadget arsenal now.

Taipei looks like a real game changer, as I can now use ALL the other synths I have accumulated over time, inside gadget. While not as smooth as having Gadget support IAA og AU synths (which I guess will never happen) - this is the next best thing. It would be cool if you could record BACK into Gadget directly, but I've been experimenting with AUM, and if you have LINK enabled, it's really easy to trim the finished recordings in AudioShare if you turn on "Snap to Beat" - then you can "Import from AudioShare" in Zurich and have everything inside your gadget project file.

I also like the coloured tracks - it's easier to distinguish the different gadgets and ads a little bit of "playfullness" to the arrange screen. Fade in/out is also useful and FINALLY we can rename our tracks

I hope we get a bug fix release soon for the missing Saturator effect in some devices, and hopefully the higher contrast piano roll editor.

So while I'm still missing a lot of stuff - like a BARS/BEATS/TIME display, audio-IN from AB or other apps, save prompt if you try to load another project when you have unsaved changes, etc. etc. I'm quite happy with this update, especially considering it cost absolutely 0$

Very fair.

[Deleted User]

@wim said:

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@MonzoPro said:

@h_vel said:

@MonzoPro said:

@h_vel said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Halftone said:

@R_2 said:
Did some testing and sad to say battery use has not improved for me (iPad Pro 9.7)
As been mentioned before it depends on which screen and actions.
But playing some Madrid for 7 min (no sequence running) used almost 10% battery!

Here's my battery report after having Just updated this morning. Battery was at 90% ... I opened Gadget and made quick beat in Recife, a simple bassline in monopoly, then opened up 5-6 Memphis gadgets and recorded a few notes (just got ims20 so was checking out presets). I spent some time trying to build a patch in one Memphis instance. About 45 mins of gadget being open - battery dropped 7% to 83%.

2018 regular iPad iOS 12.3

Pretty sure battery life is better on my Air 2 than before. Previously it was dropping 1% per minute. Even though I’ve been working on more intensive projects since the update, it’s definitely not dropping as quickly now.

Strange, on my Air 2 (iOS 12.1.4) battery life is definitely more worse than before. Already did a restart of my iPad (long press home + power button), but it didn’t change anything. Maybe a reinstall og Gadget might help?

I switch my iPad off each night, so maybe a proper reboot might help.

I’ve only had a couple of plays, so maybe it was a fluke, but definitely seemed better, less heat too. I’ll report back after a few more sessions!

Ok, thanks!

Just had another 15 minute session, with loads of tracks going, and 4% battery drop, plus minimal heat. Considering this is a 4 year old device, it seems to still be up to the job.

I”m getting significantly lower battery usage and no heat buildup at all on my Air 2. I’ve been composing for more than 90 minutes solid with only 12% battery drain. The battery on this ol’ thing is pretty tired out after years of usage every single blessed day, so it ain’t because it’s a miracle battery or anything.

Somehow,m I think once again the some of newer Pros have something fundamentally messed up in screen / audio processing threading over these older models.

12% battery drain after 90 min is something I can only dream of. Did you use a controller or played onscreen keys?
I used to get similarly good behavior on my ipad 2 in the past. But on my Pro 9.7 and iPhone SE it’s been bad the last 2 years.

I get less battery drain when I stay in the main ‘scenes’ screen (with faders/meters hidden).
Graphics/UI have a big influences on this.

I was 100% on-screen, tweaking synths, poking in notes, and editing them. Maybe it was the particular gadgets I was using. I think some are more optimized than others. I was in Memphis a lot. Screen brightness was set pretty low. Gadget was loaded in AudioBus, headphones only connected, no interface or devices.

I dunno what the difference could be. At any rate, I can definitely say the Air 2 was running cool as a cucumber. There was noticeable warmness using Gadget before the update.

I’ve just had a good hour’s twiddling in Gadget, and used about 16% battery, no real heat to report either.

Would have used at least 50% previously, and I’d have had to stop every ten minutes to let it cool down.

Happy with that!

davis_korgrd

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
I like the that iMS-20 lets you feed in audio from another gadget track, but anyone know how you can mute the source audio track - so you just hear what’s coming out of the iMS-20 track?

You can mute the source track using the "mute" button on the mixer and audio will still be passed to Memphis.

@branis said:
I just found out you can’t use tempo per scene if Link is enabled. @davis_korgrd Is it a Link limitation or Gadget doesn’t have it implemented?

I didn't work on that feature, but I believe it was a design decision. I'm not sure though, I can ask about it

Mark B

My biggest issue with link is you can’t start playback from any bar (when you double tap on the bar in the piano roll editor). It always starts playback from the beginning. Plus it needs updating to the latest sdk to support link start/stop.

jwmmakerofmusic

@davis_korgrd

Mate, are you going to address the fact the saturator isn't working on some devices? Are you going to work on fixing this/get the people who worked on it to fix this? For me, it doesn't work on my iPad Pro 11". Others have this same issue on their devices. To some, it's just an effect to make subbasses detectable on cheap speakers/to fatten trance leads. To me, it's a very crucial sound design tool for Noise Music/Electro-Acoustic/Experimental/you name it (and yes, also for making subbasses detectable on cheap speakers and fattening trance leads ).

AudioGus

@davis_korgrd

Would love to be able to loop the song.

Panthemusicalgoat

Just really unimpressed with gadget workflow. Its so awkward and annoying. Been using it for a year and still hate it.

I like some of the sounds in Dublin but it feels like a cash grab to me. Maybe it's just not my cup of tea

NanoStudio forever. Dunno why more developers haven't copied it

davis_korgrd

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@davis_korgrd

Mate, are you going to address the fact the saturator isn't working on some devices?

We'll release an update for it soon. I made a typo and didn't catch it until it was too late because the issue is tied in with the device samplerate.

jwmmakerofmusic

@Panthemusicalgoat said:
NanoStudio forever. Dunno why more developers haven't copied it

Couldn't agree more mate. 😎 Especially once the audio tracks IAP is released.

jwmmakerofmusic

@davis_korgrd said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@davis_korgrd

Mate, are you going to address the fact the saturator isn't working on some devices?

We'll release an update for it soon. I made a typo and didn't catch it until it was too late because the issue is tied in with the device samplerate.

AH! I damn near forgot about that ruddy samplerate issue with the new devices, lol. Thanks for letting me know mate. Looking forward to the update.

Also, can we expect the two "unannounced" IAPs (cough Ebina cough Otorii cough) with the next update, or will it just be a bugfix update for now?

davis_korgrd

The next update will be for bug fixes as far as I know

Peter321

@davis_korgrd said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@davis_korgrd

Mate, are you going to address the fact the saturator isn't working on some devices?

We'll release an update for it soon. I made a typo and didn't catch it until it was too late because the issue is tied in with the device samplerate.

Thank you for keeping us updated @davis_korgrd

jwmmakerofmusic

@davis_korgrd said:
The next update will be for bug fixes as far as I know

Fair enough. Thanks for keeping us up to date.

LucidMusicInc

@davis_korgrd said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@davis_korgrd

Mate, are you going to address the fact the saturator isn't working on some devices?

We'll release an update for it soon. I made a typo and didn't catch it until it was too late because the issue is tied in with the device samplerate.

Genuinely worried that the new blue needs to be an optional setting. Don’t be like Apple and TAKE THINGS THAT WE LIKE AWAY FROM US. Please consider adding a switch button in settings that allow us to have our preferred theme option.

Thanks in advance.

branis

@davis_korgrd said:

@branis said:
I just found out you can’t use tempo per scene if Link is enabled. @davis_korgrd Is it a Link limitation or Gadget doesn’t have it implemented?

I didn't work on that feature, but I believe it was a design decision. I'm not sure though, I can ask about it

Please do. I was trying to set up a project in AUM with Gadget, Troublemaker and Effectrix. I couldn’t use Link because I needed different tempos for different scenes, but since the delay in Troublemaker and Effectrix are tempo based effects I couldn’t have them play in sync with Gadget.

rs2000

@davis_korgrd said:
The next update will be for bug fixes as far as I know

Please do your best to make the grid lines visible again. I might not have the best eyes but I bet that people with a specific kind of colour blindness won't be able to see the grid lines at all.
With certain iOS accessibility colour settings, the grid lines in the notes/automation grid disappear completely!

Samu

For some strange reason Gadget 2 makes me want to get a bigger iPad like >15" or so...

Jumpercollins

@Samu said:
For some strange reason Gadget 2 makes me want to get a bigger iPad like >15" or so...

I was thinking the same shame the Windows version isn't full spec would look great on my Surface Pro.

Jocphone

@Samu said:
For some strange reason Gadget 2 makes me want to get a bigger iPad like >15" or so...

iMS-20 also, can barely read the labels on the standard sized iPad

chandroji

@rs2000 said:

@davis_korgrd said:
The next update will be for bug fixes as far as I know

Please do your best to make the grid lines visible again. I might not have the best eyes but I bet that people with a specific kind of colour blindness won't be able to see the grid lines at all.
With certain iOS accessibility colour settings, the grid lines in the notes/automation grid disappear completely!

I’m in the same boat @davis_korgrd !
I’m a little bit colorblind so good contrast is most important for me. In the moment I have to adjust the brightness to 100% to work with the new grid but even with 100% brightness I didn’t feel comfortable.

The difference between the old and the new grid is huge! 😎

😊 👍

😩

jwmmakerofmusic

@chandroji said:

@rs2000 said:

@davis_korgrd said:
The next update will be for bug fixes as far as I know

Please do your best to make the grid lines visible again. I might not have the best eyes but I bet that people with a specific kind of colour blindness won't be able to see the grid lines at all.
With certain iOS accessibility colour settings, the grid lines in the notes/automation grid disappear completely!

I’m in the same boat @davis_korgrd !
I’m a little bit colorblind so good contrast is most important for me. In the moment I have to adjust the brightness to 100% to work with the grid but even with 100% brightness I didn’t feel comfortable.

The difference between the old and the new grid is huge! 😎

👍

😩

I may not have colourblindness and am more attuned to colours due to creating art on the side, but count me in amongst those who can barely see the ruddy grid. It's pants! Who at Korg thought that grid colour would work well against that background? 🤔

e121

Initial gripes aside, like: Vancouver's smooth looping still not being smooth, and iPhone users without iPads getting the shaft on the new gadgets... I am fully back into using Gadget after not using it for a long time, because this update is great. The fades and tempo changes, Taipei's wonderful pairing with ChordPolyPad and StepPolyArp Unit, the new effects, the much snappier interface... All great.

Nice job Korg.

pats Korg on back

AndyPlankton

@AudioGus said:
@davis_korgrd

Would love to be able to loop the song.

+1

JohnnyGoodyear

@Jumpercollins said:

@Samu said:
For some strange reason Gadget 2 makes me want to get a bigger iPad like >15" or so...

I was thinking the same shame the Windows version isn't full spec would look great on my Surface Pro.

Bing, bing, bing......

JohnnyGoodyear

@e121 said:
Initial gripes aside, like: Vancouver's smooth looping still not being smooth, and iPhone users without iPads getting the shaft on the new gadgets... I am fully back into using Gadget after not using it for a long time, because this update is great. The fades and tempo changes, Taipei's wonderful pairing with ChordPolyPad and StepPolyArp Unit, the new effects, the much snappier interface... All great.

Nice job Korg.

pats Korg on back

Korg lies back like Miss June and smiles seductively; I'm right here for you baby...

[Deleted User]

I'm loving the update. I still end up with a batch of scenes that don't work together as a song...but that's lack of musical ability on my part.

Samu

This thread needs an OT music video so here goes...

JohnnyGoodyear

@MonzoPro said:
I'm loving the update. I still end up with a batch of scenes that don't work together as a song...but that's lack of musical ability on my part.

Keep grinding skipper.

[Deleted User]

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:
I'm loving the update. I still end up with a batch of scenes that don't work together as a song...but that's lack of musical ability on my part.

Keep grinding skipper.

It's a strange issue. I end up with lots of very good sounding scenes in themselves, but after jamming about on them they bear little connection with the previous ones. So I end up with a half-finished song that has several mini songs inside it.

Weird. Discipline required.

Samu

Korg should release a proper 'Sampler Gadget' as a tribute to the Prodigy in memory of Keith Flint...
(Today I'll be listening to the Prodigy all day long, maybe even the rest of the week).