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OT: We are so screwed

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  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Michael said:
    In case you missed it, in Doom and Gloom news: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/06/human-society-under-urgent-threat-loss-earth-natural-life-un-report

    "Human society is in jeopardy from the accelerating decline of the Earth’s natural life support systems, the world’s leading scientists have warned as they announced the results of the most thorough planetary health check ever undertaken." "The next 18 months will be crucial."

    Good thing environment is front and centre in western politics right now 😂😭

    Unfortunately western politics is headed in the opposite direction. UK Brexit preparing to tear up the EU environmental protection laws when it leaves, and climate change denying Trump in charge of the USA.

    Already noticing big climate changes here over the last 20 years - getting sunburnt in Mid Wales in April has never been a thing - it hardly happened in the summer!

    The scary part is the way it’ll suddenly speed up - the domino cause and effect. They can’t predict that, and it’ll catch us out when it’s too late to sop it.

    Just saying Rohs is actually worse for the environment in some ways...

    Some EU environmental laws are kind of dumb.

  • edited May 2019

    Looks like a human rocket ship trying to leave the planet (or maybe it is just a baby escaping the womb?)

    Good luck little guy!

    Edit:ps:hashtag: stophavingkids (hoping one of these takes (Audiogus obviously has no idea how twitter AI bots work))

  • @BroCoast said:

    Some EU environmental laws are kind of dumb.

    Such as?

    Worth a read: https://friendsoftheearth.uk/brexit/brexits-impact-nature-why-were-involved

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @BroCoast said:

    Some EU environmental laws are kind of dumb.

    Such as?

    Worth a read: https://friendsoftheearth.uk/brexit/brexits-impact-nature-why-were-involved

    I already mentioned one in my post. roHS

    Scare website IMO.

  • edited May 2019

    All I know is that I don't want to breath the air full of noxious gases, be exposed to radiation or see plastic rubbish in my environment. I don't want to see degradation in wildlife etc. Other than that I'm cool with most things.

    Whenever there are tangible signs of a genuine movement bunch of devil's advocates try to show how they know more than anybody else

    Well, the truth is that we need to start being responsible for our actions. That's all..

  • edited May 2019

    I've ridden a motorcycle, off and on for most of my life. Picked it back up regularly around 2005. Getting hit by insects on your face shield and extremities is something you're acutely aware of when riding.

    I've noticed a significant drop in the number of insects over the last 4 or 5 years in particular.

    What I don't get... are the memes in the U.S. that dismiss and rail against anyone trying to do something about climate change and environmental protection. I keep reading right-wing posters calling anyone who supports the "Green New Deal" as "idiots". At least they're trying to address the problem. Many of this ilk have fallen into line with the idea that it's all just "fake news" and deny there's anything wrong at all.

    It's not the planet that's in peril. The planet will keep spinning on its current course until eventually being either obliterated by an asteroid, rogue planet or absorbed into our dying sun billions of years from now. What's at a stake is an environment that's favorable to the existence of life.

    It's such a pity that this one thing... protecting the environment that supports life... isn't something we can ALL agree upon.

  • Meh I really can't trust the media. If they actually cared about these sorts of issues they would be more consistent with their coverage, and put more pressure on politicians.

    I think it's fake news as usual, stirring the pot and making up controversies for clicks. IMHO we're going to be here in 18 months and hopefully Korg will give us a proper Gadget UI fix in the meantime.

  • How about free vasectomies with tax breaks? Guanteed carbon footprint reduction.

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  • @icsleepers said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I've ridden a motorcycle, off and on for most of my life. Picked it back up regularly around 2005. Getting hit by insects on your face shield and extremities is something you're acutely aware of when riding.

    I've noticed a significant drop in the number of insects over the last 4 or 5 years in particular.

    What I don't get... are the memes in the U.S. that dismiss and rail against anyone trying to do something about climate change and environmental protection. I keep reading right-wing posters calling anyone who supports the "Green New Deal" as "idiots". At least they're trying to address the problem. Many of this ilk have fallen into line with the idea that it's all just "fake news" and deny there's anything wrong at all.

    It's not the planet that's in peril. The planet will keep spinning on its current course until eventually being either obliterated by an asteroid, rogue planet or absorbed into our dying sun billions of years from now. What's at a stake is an environment that's favorable to the existence of life.

    It's such a pity that this one thing... protecting the environment that supports life... isn't something we can ALL agree upon.

    I totaly agree. The vasectomy van will be downstairs in five minutes.

  • edited May 2019

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    Meh I really can't trust the media. If they actually cared about these sorts of issues they would be more consistent with their coverage, and put more pressure on politicians.

    I think it's fake news as usual, stirring the pot and making up controversies for clicks. IMHO we're going to be here in 18 months and hopefully Korg will give us a proper Gadget UI fix in the meantime.

    Huh? I don’t follow current affairs as much as I should do but from what I ‘do’ see it seems that good media IS pretty consistent with its coverage on these things? And it’s up to READERS to put pressure on politicians etc. Not expect everything to be done for us....

    If it's not front page news on every news website and news network... who cares? Just a random scare article to get a little bit of buzz. But by all means, take proactive measures and buy some survival gear and supplements, gold and precious metals etc. just to be on the safe side.

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  • @BroCoast said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @BroCoast said:

    Some EU environmental laws are kind of dumb.

    Such as?

    Worth a read: https://friendsoftheearth.uk/brexit/brexits-impact-nature-why-were-involved

    I already mentioned one in my post. roHS

    Scare website IMO.

    You think the Friends of the Earth website, which uses actual facts, is a 'scare' website?

    And that the restriction of hazardous substances (RoHS) Guidance, that aims to keep levels of lead, cadmium, mercury, hexavalent chromium etc. at safe levels is 'kind of dumb'?

    Really?

  • edited May 2019

    @MonzoPro said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @BroCoast said:

    Some EU environmental laws are kind of dumb.

    Such as?

    Worth a read: https://friendsoftheearth.uk/brexit/brexits-impact-nature-why-were-involved

    I already mentioned one in my post. roHS

    Scare website IMO.

    You think the Friends of the Earth website, which uses actual facts, is a 'scare' website?

    And that the restriction of hazardous substances (RoHS) Guidance, that aims to keep levels of lead, cadmium, mercury, hexavalent chromium etc. at safe levels is 'kind of dumb'?

    Really?

    All I can say is do some research into roHS if you are interested.
    https://www.ecnmag.com/article/2011/12/was-lead-free-solder-worth-effort
    Yes I think it is a scare website and I care deeply about the planet.

  • edited May 2019

    @AudioGus said:
    How about free vasectomies with tax breaks? Guanteed carbon footprint reduction.

    Population growth will be not issue in thus century - it is significantly slowing down.. actually our children (and their children) will face complete opposite issue ....

    https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth

    Ironically , i case something significant will not happens, humankind will face extinctiin by aging in 22 - 23 century

  • For those concerned that this is coming from The Guardian newspaper - here is the source report info: https://www.ipbes.net/news/Media-Release-Global-Assessment

    And here is more about the IPBES organisation: https://www.ipbes.net/members

  • Why do climate skeptics congratulate themselves on being such clear-eyed arbiters of the truth? And yet the ignore scientific journals — or are ignorant of their existence — which are unanimous on the effect of potential climate catastrophe.

    Asinine interjections like "I can't really the the media" — what are you talking about? All media? Books, websites, television? Or do you mean Facebook and Twitter? What do you make of the massive floods in the American Midwest? Did you not trust the photos published in The New York Times? Did you not believe the media representation of the devastating, cyclical wildfires in California?

    Your pose is tiresome.

  • @BroCoast said:

    Yes I think it is a scare website and I care deeply about the planet.

    I think we'll have to agree to disagree. Personally I think the EU Environmental Policy - which covers a vast range of areas of protection and not just circuit boards, is a good thing. I'm quite partial to a bit of clean air, and like to avoid mercury when I go swimming.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    Why do climate skeptics congratulate themselves on being such clear-eyed arbiters of the truth? And yet the ignore scientific journals — or are ignorant of their existence — which are unanimous on the effect of potential climate catastrophe.

    Asinine interjections like "I can't really the the media" — what are you talking about? All media? Books, websites, television? Or do you mean Facebook and Twitter? What do you make of the massive floods in the American Midwest? Did you not trust the photos published in The New York Times? Did you not believe the media representation of the devastating, cyclical wildfires in California?

    Your pose is tiresome.

    Here come's the political tirade...

    The media, and in particular those you've mentioned, have discredited themselves pushing false narratives far too often for many of us to take seriously anymore. Never cry wolf, as the saying goes.

    Not denying there's some scary stuff going on in the world. Just saying that the media stirring the pot to get us all agitated and worried about it isn't going to fix the crisis.

    And besides, we ought to just stick to the topic at hand, which is the report posted by the OP. The 18 month doomsday prediction is what triggered my BS alarm bell.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @BroCoast said:

    Yes I think it is a scare website and I care deeply about the planet.

    I think we'll have to agree to disagree. Personally I think the EU Environmental Policy - which covers a vast range of areas of protection and not just circuit boards, is a good thing. I'm quite partial to a bit of clean air, and like to avoid mercury when I go swimming.

    Right but that's why I said some and not all.

    & The only reason I say that website is a scare website is because it's based on what could happen, not something that will happen.

    The problem with environmental laws is they often have political and financial motivation behind them.

  • @BroCoast said:

    & The only reason I say that website is a scare website is because it's based on what could happen, not something that will happen.

    So you have facts that prove their predictions are wrong? It'd be great to see them, then we can all relax and carry on shitting out polluitants into the sea.

    @BroCoast said:

    The problem with environmental laws is they often have political and financial motivation behind them.

    And you think tearing up environmental protection laws doesn't?

  • And it's very telling that most of the climate change skeptics are on the payroll of big oil companies. What do people expect they're going to say?

  • @LucidMusicInc said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Why do climate skeptics congratulate themselves on being such clear-eyed arbiters of the truth? And yet the ignore scientific journals — or are ignorant of their existence — which are unanimous on the effect of potential climate catastrophe.

    Asinine interjections like "I can't really the the media" — what are you talking about? All media? Books, websites, television? Or do you mean Facebook and Twitter? What do you make of the massive floods in the American Midwest? Did you not trust the photos published in The New York Times? Did you not believe the media representation of the devastating, cyclical wildfires in California?

    Your pose is tiresome.

    Here come's the political tirade...

    The media, and in particular those you've mentioned, have discredited themselves pushing false narratives far too often for many of us to take seriously anymore. Never cry wolf, as the saying goes.

    Not denying there's some scary stuff going on in the world. Just saying that the media stirring the pot to get us all agitated and worried about it isn't going to fix the crisis.

    And besides, we ought to just stick to the topic at hand, which is the report posted by the OP. The 18 month doomsday prediction is what triggered my BS alarm bell.

    Yeah, a United Nations report compiled by hundreds of international experts and based on thousands of scientific studies — that does ring the alarm bell for sure....

  • @Michael you started it!

    :joy:

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @BroCoast said:

    & The only reason I say that website is a scare website is because it's based on what could happen, not something that will happen.

    So you have facts that prove their predictions are wrong? It'd be great to see them, then we can all relax and carry on shitting out polluitants into the sea.

    @BroCoast said:

    The problem with environmental laws is they often have political and financial motivation behind them.

    And you think tearing up environmental protection laws doesn't?

    Did I ever claim to have such facts?

    It's a politically motivated website based on predictions. I am not your enemy and Brexit is of no interest to me. It is not wise to discuss this because you will only get wound up.

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