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@TonailtyApp just started using tonality and love it so far but I can not for the life of me figure out how to change the midi channel in the chord pads while using it as an auv3? I’ve searched on here and checked the manual but can’t see to find the answer.
Can someone put me out my misery and tell me how I’m being dense? 🥸
@ronnieb Hello! Unfortunately that’s not supported at the moment (I didn’t think it a priority as a plugin), but I can see how it would be useful. I’ll add the ability in an update!
For now, there are a lot of MIDI mapping programs which should let you re-route the output.
That would be super helpful. 🥳
Thanks for the quick response too
@ronnieb It was actually a fairly quick fix, so I'll likely release by tomorrow. I can put you on the beta if you want it today.
Woah sweet. Will pm you
@TonalityApp can I set the midi channel in the standalone app? trying to use chord pads as a controller for vsts on my mac but cant seem to get a midi output. I checked send midi out in settings but nothing so presumably I need to set the channel somewhere?
@J_B Does the “Tonality Output” channel appear? That should be all you have to do. Is the issue that no messages are received?
You can set the midi channel from the settings panel in the top right of the chord pads page (you’ll have to scroll down).
ive got it plugged into a midi to usb wire going into my mac. just realised I had to update to get midi channels, but still no output
@J_B So is the Tonality Output channel not showing, or have you connected to it and there are no notes?
tonality output is showing within other apps. I just need to get the output from tonality to my midi interface. i tried routing it through beatmaker 3 but it doesnt go thru. not sure if i need more apps to sort it out. appreciate the prompt responses though sorry to be a hassle
If you have Audiobus or AUM or MIDIFire, you can use them to rout Tonality’s output with less overhead than BM3.
@J_B All good. I'm suspecting it's an issue with the routing rather than Tonality itself. To check, can you try running another app in the background and seeing if it responds to the Tonality Out channel?
I second @espiegel123's suggestion.
@skrat Got a cumulative scale ID option in the beta! Let me know if you’d like to try it out.
Sure, will write you DM.
@TonalityApp : I am finally getting around to try to get a better grip on the sounds of some scales and was realizing that it would be great to have a tool that if you gave it a scale would generate various interval exercises and patterns (which you could then practice yourself or listen to the app practice). Anyway, I would certainly pay for an IAP or separate app.
While I could generate these by hand, having an app do it so that I could listen and get familiar with the sounds would be great.
@espiegel123 Noted! I apologize I haven’t had too much time to work on Tonality lately, but I’ll add this to my list as always.
As an unrelated side note, have you had a chance to try out the new voice leading tool?
I recall checking it out briefly. Can you remind me how to invoke? I have forgotten and don’t see it in the manual.
It’s the last tool on the tool pad. You hold it down, then tap two chord pads in succession. The second will be voice-led to fit the first. You can tap the second pad more than once to try out alternate voicings (if they exist). Thanks for checking it out!
I say it a lot, but the manual is definitely one of my top priorities. It’s taking a bit longer as I’m trying to make it a bit more “interactive” with links for most topics/features and highly annotated screenshots of each main section.
I’m sorry if this is asked already but what do you get for 5.99 price of the app vs what you get with the in app purchase? And how much if the iap
Thank ya!
A couple of quick notes. I get a message when going from chord families with different numbers of notes — for example from Major/Minor chords to Seventh family chords. Or from seventh chords to altered chords. Is there an easy way for the user to tell the app to use either reduced voices (for example, by omitting omittable notes) or to use extra voices. For example, i had Bm7b5 to E7#9. Maybe the app could omit the third in the seventh#9? Or ask about it.
The other tricky thing is that it only plays the second chord — so, you hear the voicing of the chord but not the voice leading from one to the other.
In the progression, I entered only one option was ever used for the second chord. It didn’t pick alternate options on successive presses. The sequence was: Am7 Gm7 C7 F7 Bm7b5 E7#9
Hmm? I wonder what tune I’ve been having fun jamming on?
5.99 covers everything and likely always will – I just have IAPs for tips. It will also be free on Fête de la Musique, though that's a bit of a wait. I can put you on the beta for a bit if you want to try things out.
Very good points, thank you! Dropping omittable notes would be particularly nice. The main issue is fitting all this into the UI without cluttering things more, so I like the idea of having a little popup that asks. Maybe there could also be a dedicated voice leading settings pane. I get two options from Am7 to Gm7, but yeah, the rest don't seem to have others. I may have to make it a bit more permissive (right now it removes any options which are too "far" away). If you have any alternate leadings between these equal-sized chords that aren't shown I'd love to hear them (only if you have time).
I'll definitely consider these things as I tweak the algorithm when I get the time (which again may be a while). I just wanted to check in before I forgot since we'd talked some previously and I figured you'd have good feedback.
I have to admit I don't recognize it off hand, though I'm likely missing something obvious
Something that would improve the voice leading are choices for the first chord voicing. Maybe pressing the first chord repeatedly could cycle through voicings to get you to what you want. I would find that super useful...especially if sticking to four note voicings of five or six note chords.
Sunny is the song. Not sure why you want to omit the third from E7#9, that would sound like Em7. Totally different sound.
Thanks for catching my goof. I meant omit the fifth not the third. I,e, using the common guitar voicing of root,3,7th,#9
Hey! Thank you for the offer i would def like to try it out and give it a spin! If i am able to use it for my workflow i would love to support it and even add a tip! Thanks for the offer I’ll message you my TestFlight info
Wow this app is exactly what I’ve been looking for!!
To be able to play chords and progressions and customize them, as well as having strum capabilities all in an auv3...and capture it all into atom 2 for editing! This is great ! How did i not have this??!!!
Noted, thanks again.
@reasOne Glad you're enjoying it!
Just a quick workflow example with tonality recording live into atom 2 using chord pads and strum pads
What took you so long?
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Right?!?! LOL.
I didn’t realize it had custom scales, pads/strum, midi out, auv3, and more.
I thought it was more of a thing designed to teach you music theory stuff, which it does, but is so much more. IMO this app needs to be on every iPad in here hehe