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@TonalityApp , I must admit I missed the guitar symbol on the left hand pane in chords but this still leaves, as far as I can see, the keyboard at the top right of chords, the ones at the top left and top right of scales plus top right of circle of fifths. Hope I am not wasting your time. Thanks.
@GeoTony Working on the searcher in scales, and I’ll consider the others. Part of my goal is to give a bit of familiarity with keys as I believe they are a valuable common ground for discussing theory, so I may not get to all of them. Not wasting my time at all – I appreciate the feedback.
Understood re some degree of commonality... many thanks
@TonalityApp
I'm really liking your chord pad app. It's a great composing tool.
The speed that you're able to turn out new features is impressive.
I started a thread a while ago about the concept of an endless overwriting loop MIDI recorder, and I wanted to mention it to you as a feature suggestion for Tonality. To my knowledge there is not yet one of these available for iOS.
The purpose for it is straightforward.
It's a simple MIDI Recorder that continuously records during a selectable time length. Once that time length is reached, it begins to overwrite and record over any Midi that is older than the time length. The beginning of the recording will always be the point where user stops the recorder.
It allows for composing pieces that a user might find difficult to play. It allows the user to leave the recorder running as they repeatedly try to get it right. The utility of this method is that the user can immediately retry after any mistake. There is never a need to wait for a looped track to return to its beginning. Once the user gets their piece played right, they hit the stop button. The length limit prevents generating a long file full of multiple mistakes.
The recorder can be linked to the host clock so the recording can be made in time with the host metronome.
After the recording is complete, the user arms the play button, arms REC in the Daw host. The Daw is started, then records from the synced playback of the Midi recorder onto a track in the Daw. The desired section of Midi can then be edited in the Daw.
Tonality caused me think of this recording method now that you've added the strumming features. I find I can play some very complex parts with the strumming feature, but not always in one attempt. With an overwriting recorder running I could keep trying until I get it played just right, then stop the recorder.
I was thinking about this recorder as a possible additional AUv3 for Tonality, and not an integral part of the chord Pads. It could also potentially be a new app all on its own. The bottom line is I just think it would be a really useful little utility for composing.
Here's a simple mockup of the idea:
@horsetrainer I will consider it, but this seems like a separate app as you mentioned.
@TonalityApp ,
Let me explain the scales, chords feature i requested in the other thread.
I am copying an image i created recently in another thread asking for the same feature.
The use case for me is like this - I pick a key and scale, the app will populate all chords as per #4, I play some progressions and see which sounds good together and play some melody on the keys. To add variation or tension i may want to wander to some out of scale notes, so i can quickly change the scale on the fly and notes / chords gets updated to the current key/scale being selected and then come back to the original idea by switching back to previous scale (resolution).
Thanks for your consideration.
@bobpadUser This is a very neat idea! I will definitely consider it. I do have a lot of requests (over 400 at any given time) and I'm currently working on both an Android version and language translation, but this one is definitely up there in terms of feasibility and interest. Thank you!
Thanks a lot !! I am happy to wait
Hah, I'm feeling really quite stupid right now, I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious to everyone, but after 2 hours of tapping around: HOW do I make a pad "strum"?
I have my pads, in a grid, with my chords, and nothing I tap/click/adjust make those pads look like in the video with the separate notes neatly laid out for my strumming pleasure. I can get a strum bar on the right. That's it. I can move the chords up/down/left/right/center both in the grid and on the keyboard, but I can't make them strum right now. What have I missed doing?
@hellquist Hey! You just have to hold down the strum button and tap a pad at the same time. The pads should jiggle in the latest update to indicate this
I realize it’s not that obvious so any suggestions are welcome
Haha, thanks man! Now I can go to sleep. Now I almost can't understand how I hadn't tried that before.
@hellquist Glad I could help
Next time feel free to ask earlier so you don’t spend too long wondering
I’m interested in Tonality is there any video tutorials or a manual to download?
Thanks.
@LoopyFruit Hey! There’s a manual at tonality-app.com but it hasn’t been updated yet to reflect many of the new features. It will give a decent overview though. If you like, I can send you the update history too.
Here’s one overview I made which includes some of the new things:
And a (very brief) tutorial:
I’m also more than happy to answer any questions you may have.
Many thanks.
Sounds like this may be approaching Scaler territory !👍
@Telstar5 We’ll see!
If anyone’s interested, this is a cool read: https://dmitri.mycpanel.princeton.edu/files/publications/scalesarrays.pdf
@TonalityApp Your app is wonderful and useful. It's starting to drift into full blown composing territory.
Honestly at some point you should make another app. One so you can get some revenue, and two so it's not just all bolted onto an already great app. But that's just my opinion. I came here for a feature request
(or a new app).
Similar to what you already have here could we get an expanded chart of parallel scales and possible chord substitutions from other modes and scales? Or is it already there and I just haven't seen it?
Thanks for the link.
@audiblevideo Thank you! That's actually high on my list. For now, here's a workflow you might find useful (of course having them directly in the chord pads will be more useful, but this has the potential to give more information):
I am working on another app! My time is just very limited between this and working on an Android version as well. There's also less friction to add to an existing app than to make a new one. After all, this is mainly just a big side project for me
@espiegel123 A preliminary voice leading beta is out. For now, I've decided to hide some of the complexity we had discussed previously and allow the user to pick which leading they want rather than specify parameters to the algorithm.
Currently, you hold down the voice leading tool and tap one pad as the "source" and a second to modify. The second will change to the most "efficient" voice leading, and if there are alternatives (they may be equally efficient, with less parallel motion, with a different root, etc), they will show up if you tap the second pad again.
Let me know if you find any instances where the result is not what you'd expect, or if you have suggestions about the workflow. Thanks!
(the same applies to any other beta testers who might be interested)
Hi, I need a little help, please. I have no sound as standalone , iPhone neither iPad. Where is the particular setting to activate it? Thanks
@Atlesbe Do you have “send midi out” turned on in settings?
Yes, it’s turned on. Do I need to turned off?
Done! I turned it off and now it works. Thank you @TonalityApp. Love your app.
@Atlesbe Correct. When it is turned on, all standalone sound is muted and routed to “Tonality Output” instead so you can use an external sound source. The option is there, but I’d recommend either getting a good soundfont or using the AUv3 plugins for MIDI instead depending on your use case.
Edit: just saw your edit. Glad it works and you’re enjoying it. Let me know if you have further questions!
All great, I’m enjoying your app , love it. Even I posted a cover online using your app
“Alone Again”
Ah nice! So that was you posting to Patchstorage earlier? Thanks for the contribution!
Yes! And Reddit too
https://www.reddit.com/r/ipadmusic/comments/kocczm/one_minute_cover_alone_again_naturally_patterning/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
No problem, your work deserves it.
Cool. I’ll check it out...could be a few days before I get to it.
@Atlesbe Cool! Always nice to see the app “in the wild”.
@espiegel123 No rush, thank you!