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Lea> @wim said:
Thanks! You guys have been great teachers for me today.
So far Xequence itself has been blameless.
We love you
In case you haven’t already discovered this: It’s really simple to shift up or down an octave in Xequence.. Double tap the section you need to adjust.. Select All notes.. then in the Process menu click the up/down octave buttons.
Don't tell ME! Xequence HAS MIDI Sync Out, including song position, exactly and mostly for that purpose, but the only iOS app that can sync to it is still Beatmaker 2 😂
That would actually be relatively piece-of-cake and I had thought about it a few times (even a connection to Audiobus would be quite doable), but I didn't do it because it would "taint" the pureness of the app (being purely MIDI) and would be a somewhat hackish feature.
After further analysis and figuring out which points are serious and which aren't 😉, here's your answers:
I don’t know if it is of any help (or maybe I don’t understand the problem), but if you load Xequence 2 and FL Studio Mobile in AUM and enable link in Xequence 2 and AUM and then press play in AUM, then both Xequence 2 and FL studio Mobile will start playing. So you can have the audio in FL Studio Mobile and the midi playing in Xequence 2
Yes, but that doesn't set FLSM to bar 33 if you drag the song position pointer in Xequence to bar 33. It only gives relative synchronisation per bar, but not for the absolute song position, which would be crucial for audio tracks.
A followup here: Just to clarify -- Xequence's settings are NOT saved in an Audiobus preset or project. Everything you set on the "..." screen is saved per installation, not per project. So maybe that's where the confusion comes from? (It would possibly make sense to actually save a few of those -- for example the MIDI sources etc. -- as part of an Audiobus preset indeed. But it would also increase the confusion even further).
Of course , it would be far easier for a midi sequencer to be turned into a slave than than for an audio sequencer to be turned into one. Also MIDI-slaving would be far easier on the CPU.
Perhaps that could be a Xequence IAP:
slave sync and tempo/meter track
Yes, I’d happily cough up for this.
+1 😍
It is via Audiobus state saving. The settings mentioned that aren’t saved with state saving (color theme, etc.) are in the settings page. Those are global for the app.
You may have missed the rest of the discussion... there is a few things in Xequence's SETTINGS (Active MIDI Sources, MIDI In enabled yes/no, etc.) that also have an effect on if an Audiobus Preset works correctly or not, so we were discussing if it would make sense to save SOME global Xequence settings in a Preset too. However that would cause quite a bit of confusion...
A companion app then maybe? Same single-purpose ethos, clean design, and practical features. The problem I see is the immediate calls for time stretching, and audio editing tools, FX, Automation, recording, takes, ...
I’m just hoping for a simple way to arrange audio to go along with MIDI. I’m perfectly happy to use other tools to do the recording, editing, time stretching, etc. But I’m pretty sure I’m the minority there, and that an audio app without those features would be panned by the majority of people. So, maybe not the best path to suggest for Xequence.
Some solution is bound to come at some point. I’m patient.
Ahh. True. I keep things mostly the same there, so don’t notice it really.
I seem to recall you started working on another app - something that is not Xequence 2 (or even 3). Did it have something to do with audio?
Had some fun recording played TC-Data midi data into X2 , editing and then trying out different synths with it afterward.
I agree. X2 is a beautiful app because of it provides deep MIDI recording, editing, and export functions, all laid out within an elegantly simplistic design.
Something occurred to me the other day while contemplating all the iOS music Apps that I own. I tend to use the simpler Apps much more than I use the complex ones. I think part of the reason is because I owned hardware sequencers, drum machines, synths, and multitrack recorders back in the 80's and 90's. Music making seems more intuitive when I can think in terms of each component having it's own function. And back in my hardware days, I physically had to move between hardware, and it was easy to remember how each piece of hardware worked because it was it's own object.
I think a spatially separated object experience of selecting different tools by purpose, is something of a fundamental way that people naturally think.
I'm starting to become more accustomed to using DAW apps like Cubasis. But I don't enjoy the experience of feeling lost when I can't remember how to bring up some feature that I used before, but forgot how to access it.
I'm much happier with separate apps having separate purposes. IMO it makes learning each App much more intuitive. I like the way AUM and Audiobus host Apps in a way that mirrors connectivity in a hardware studio. I find working in a sudo-modular fashion, preferable to wading around in a single complex app, because the complex app experience tends to make me confused.
@horsetrainer Well, that's the way I made music for around 10 years, and back then it was the ONLY way to make music (yes, I'm that old!). So, that experience (a good one, as you say!) may have influenced my design or attitudes 🙂
That's what I appreciate about X2, despite my self-inflicted frustrations w/ importing MIDI files from other sequencing apps/DAW. Comparing for example Micrologue bass to Model 15, pads on Cubasis' "Tape Synth" vs. iSEM, iMonoPoly pad vs. iSEM pad etc.
Yes, Xequence is being developed into a DAW in parallel, but that is, as you can imagine, a huge undertaking for a small "team" so, if NS2 is a reference, then it could easily take a few more years to finish 😉 but what's there already works well 🙂
Another loose thought regarding audio tracking...
A huge thing missing with the “Modular DAW” approach is “Track Freezing”. In an integrated DAW, when CPU gets out of hand, you freeze some tracks. There’s simply no equivalent with a Xequence + AB + AUM or other setup. I mean, I guess you can cobble something together using a looper, or by recording stems in AUM and loading them in a file player, or something. But nothing is satisfactory really.
The more I think about it, the stronger I feel the need for an audio timeline. My trusty but dusty Air 2 is on the ragged edge of breakup most times by the time a composition gets interesting. I wish very much I could just dump the audio into a timeline when I need to, dump the high CPU apps until I need them again, and move on.
I don’t know of any other developer that “gets” this need. (“Hint, hint. Nudge, nudge. Nod’s as good as a wink eh?”)
@wim Yes, can you file a feature request for full MIDI sync slaving (including SPP) to Steinberg (Cubasis), Apple (Garageband), Intua 😉 (BM3), the Multitrack DAW developer, etc...? 😁 Any of them will do that perfectly if they add that one feature! Much easier than the Seven Systems Software Development Division Skyscraper Guys (tm) adding full-fledged audio tracks to Xequence 😕
Nice!
Checked this one out too... is this modular synth Hybris yours or is that another dev's project?
Thinking of checking out Multitrack DAW for my audio recording. So maybe they'll get my feature request in the future for MIDI sync.
Maybe delete your post, before you get another round of demands to make the new app and/or X2 an AUv3?
Honestly, I can't see the appeal of running X2 as an AU inside of AUM. I don't know if the problem is with AUM itself or it's with AUv3, but every single app that I click on inside of AUM has a terrible looking little window.
Ha, ha! Good point.
MTD developer maybe. The rest are like talking to plants on that point.
On the other hand, NS2 slaves great to Link and has audio tracks coming - hopefully some time before I’m too old to care.
Yes it can. I don't think the Xequence manual has an example setup for that, simply because it's an old app and I hoped when I first wrote it (2017) that by now there would be a more modern app that can slave. Guess I was wrong 😁
However, the gist of it is: Turn on "CLOCK RECV" in BM2, create a dummy instrument in Xequence that points to BM2 and turn on "Send Sync" in "Absolute" mode. Also enable "COLW". That should be it.
XENON! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I may have been a bit optimistic about "soon" there though, and the name will also change as to not clash with an existing "synth with a built in sequencer thing" 😉